ok so i know this has probably already been asked before but
i just cant seem to find the right post.
i have the opening stage down fine.
im usually pretty good at just randomly walking up to girls and starting conversations but after i have opened them and gotten attration i never know what to say.
haha its like my mind just goes blank and the only thing i know to do is be like "well alright it was nice meeting you" or some other pussy excuse to leave the conversation.
what can i do to become any bit better about this?
i dont really wanna just use canned material cause i dont wanna become dependant on it but damn.
i know most of yal have probably had the same problem....
any advice?

Mate,

You need to have canned material ready that is the whole point.

Having just an opener is no good because that only gets the sets attention, you need to hook them in and make them want you to stay.

Do some dhv or tell them a bullshit skydiving story just to keep the interaction alive.

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Well see the only problem with that is I can't seem to transition into a dhv story without comeing off as try hard. I dunno why I get stuck. I actually have a good bit of true dhv stories I guess I just don't know how to lead into them.

how about ask all the girls in the set to tell u something interesting about them, tell them its a game u wana play, remember to neg whtever ur target says, but very jokingly. Once you have done this they will be trying to think of something to impress you.... then when they no doubt ask you for something interesting u can tell them a short dhv story.

hopefully they will ask for more details?......... i donno if this wud work but its just a thought

That does sound like a good idea. Ill definatly try it in the field.

I need some good dhvs tho. I like doing the cube. And the bar bet.

Are there any other good ones like that that u know of?

You could try Mystery's lock in method.

When you are talking to the set, take ones of the hb's hands and switch places so that it looks like the set is gaming you, this will turn on the sets preselection switches and that will DHV you.

DHV doesn't have to be a true story but just something that conveys the following:

"Alpha male"
"The ability to look after her and her children, financially and otherwise"
"Socially competant"
"Many friends"
"pre-approved by other females"
"intelligent"
"Confident"
"Funny"
"Leader of men"
"Has standards when comes to women"
"Many girlfriends"
"Discreet"

If you can DHV and make the set see this in your persona then you are one step closer to a successful set.

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FUCK canned shit... just do it like the greats, before u approach have a stragety and LISTEN... conversation is one of the easiest things people love to talk about thereselves.. I mean conversation is everywhere from news, entertainment, to the environment (different items, make fun of someone around u)... also have fun with it play games one time for 20 mins straight I played convosation games with a lady she loved it.. I approached simply by in three guess let me guess your name... after that it was just games after games... even one time I didn't tell a girl one thing about me and just asked question along with one line statement the girl swore it was the best time she had out in years... OVERALL be playful witty clever... you don't need scripts and canned shit it just makes u look like an ass when u forget shit or mess up... problem with canned shit is it isn't personalized to who u are... In the beginning I used canned shit alot of mystery shit and I failed miserable because I was being someone who I wasn't I am not a mysterious magic guy... so it showed and people could see it... canned shit is only for examples ... find your own lane and what works for you u get better results this way!

Don't worry about looking try hard, or looking anything when you are trying something new. You'd be surprised what comes off as smooth. Just do it 3-4 times, and reflect on what happened.

Conversations have a way of sparking too, just say something and one of the girls or you will probably be inspired to say something else. I dont use canned shit and i used to have the same problem as you but now i just kind of ramble about shit until something sparks people into talking. One example, I was chatting with 2 HB9s on the beach on the beach and used a southern expression and pretty soon we were talking about the expression then the south etc.... The point is a conversation spark can come from anything, just listen and repond to conversations. The only fallbacks I use are movies; if i really cant think of anything to say I say have u seen X movie. Then I talk about major scenes and hopefully a more real conversation spark will come. This strategy will not appear try hard or whatever.
Hope this helps.
-Fiery