i am yet to 'properly' kiss a girl. This is the main problem affecting my game and i'm struggling to get past it. I can build decent attraction etc, but the kiss never seems to happen. The thing is, when i'm flirting with a chick, going for the kiss is actually the last thing on my mind so it never seems to happen.

I want to know what the unspoken rules are when it comes to kissing @ like a party scene for example.

-Is privacy a must
-Can you initiate it when you're in the middle of a conversation spontaneously or should there be some long pause with held eye contact or somehting?

I shouldnt be making such a big deal about such a small issue, but its reached this point and it is incredibly frustrating..

I like this question

someone plz answer this one

u can try testing water by doing this..
hold her chin up and try to lean in for the kiss.. if she moves back.. then quickly move ur head to her ear and say something like.. theres something in ur teeth or something.. if she doesnt just just go for the kiss..a small peck on the lips then move back.. if she comes for a kiss.. move back a little then go in again.

Use some simple routines, check out the kiss close ones in the link

the-best-tease-routines-by-jay-wa-vt18584.html

thanks guys, but no one answered any of my questions.

I was basically asking, when kissing a girl is acceptable. both to her, and socially. Like what context?

there's not too many 'rules' if your in high school or college parties, or whatever, gossip can be a big worry, so when initiating, just slow down your talking and hold eye contact, the girl will often do half the work, all you need to do is get slowly closer. if surrounded by other people, make it short and brief , and dont throw your tongue down her throat and dont grope, more intense kisses should happen in a more private area

hope this is some help

Keep it simple:

3 IOI's is all you need. Doesn't matter how fast they come. Once you see those, you're weapons free.

IOI's: Touching, licking or biting lips, touching hair, making contact with you - grabbing your hands, your shoulder.

It doesn't have to happen slowly. Girls make quick assumptions too.

No! Almost the opposite. In a private situation, the girl may become worried that the kiss is the beginning of something more. A kiss, just like any opener or discussion, must be without strings attached. Also, many girls like the confirmation of value a kiss grants and wants her friends to see it.

Szahn Dhore made the best point here out of many good points.

1 thing guys must understand is that a kiss should 'NOT' be a big deal.

It should be like a part of the interaction with you;its a natural thing to do(should be your mind set).

The moment she senses that it's a big deal to you,she'd make it a big deal in a bad way.

So frame the kiss as though its part of the deal-the norm.

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alright, that makes a lot of sense. I need to stop treating it as such a massive deal...