Right so a few days ago this girl came said hi to me at a club, I know her and have liked her since I first saw her. She's a HB7 I'd say but a really nice girl. We had a great convo then and She gave me a few pecks on the lip that time. I was hammered drunk haha and didn't go for making out.
Tonight she is out again she took my number, she even told me she wasn't very drunk that night. I'm not sure how to give a mid game and kiss her this time.

Any ideas dudes?

Dopey

You got your work cut out man. It shouldn't be difficult to pull a kiss or make out next time.

Most of the rules that apply for others doesnt fo you since this chicc's so into you already. You can just grab her and kiss her at will.

But if you were in a normal situation,the best time to kiss her would be in light moment-the lightest moment.

Don't try kissing her in somber,lovey dubby moment. Do it when giggly,laughy/flirty.

You can't test her.

You:"Are you adventurous"?
HB7:Yea(or whatever)
You:I don't believe you. We'll lets find out. Then kiss her.

Don't attempt the kiss from far away where you have to get up and go to her-that may give her enough time to reject you(yes,2 sec. is too much).

Attempt the kiss when yall are close in each others' faces which allows her no time to think nor reject the kiss by turning away. Make it spontaneous.

So there you go. Make the mood light and playful then test her(ask if she's adenturous),then kiss her. Do not ask her if you can kiss her-that's beta(weak) and she would rarely ever say yes,kiss me.

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[quote="dopeyranger"]Right so a few days ago this girl came said hi to me at a club, I know her and have liked her since I first saw her. She's a HB7 I'd say but a really nice girl. We had a great convo then and She gave me a few pecks on the lip that time. I was hammered drunk haha and didn't go for making out.
Tonight she is out again she took my number, she even told me she wasn't very drunk that night. I'm not sure how to give a mid game and kiss her this time.

Any ideas dudes?

Dopey[/quote]

One time there was this girl that I wanted and she already liked me.
Unsure of how to get her to kiss me, I plainly asked her "Would You like to kiss me?"
I got the idea from The Game by Neil Strauss. Anyway, she was all like "Oh my god how do you get from blah blah to asking me to make out?" There was a lot of bad tension in the air. I kept calm because I didn't know what to do and the last thing I wanted was to make this feeling worse, so I told her the response from the book to try and save my hide. "You looked like you had something on your mind."
Didn't work she was like blah blah it's so random, what made you think I want to kiss you blah blah
I stopped talking and looked away accepting my mistake and I walked outside. Her friend walked into the house but I don't think it mattered. My friend was watching the whole thing from me going to the couch, to her following me, to her getting all frazzled and me messing up. He stayed inside, god only knows what happened in there while I stood on the column just outside the door. Waiting.

Anyway, She walks out and sees me there and says "lets go for a walk."
We walk down the road shes calmer, but shes still going on about my daring failure. I hold her hand suddenly. "What holding my hands supposed to make things better?" "No, I like holding your hand. Its cold and your hand keeps my hand warm." Somehow we lose momentum and we stop walking and she starts telling me" Hey, you know I like you, blah blah, why did you have to ask me to kiss me?" "blah blah you looked like you had something on your mind, blah blah me." We kiss. End of story.

moral, if she likes you just go for it.

This is something i wrote to a beginner section but i put it here as well.

A) Right state of mind= When you make a big deal about kissing her she can sense it. How? Because how you think shows through your bodylanguage and vocal dominance. These two factors pretty much control your outer frame ( are you a confident guy or not )
So in other words, if you are nervous it shows to her through your bodylanguage and vocal dominance and through that can make her feel unfomfortable as well.
So basically the way you think can be associated to the way you act.

B) Kino= You touching her makes her getting used to you touching her. For example if i would kiss a girl without first touching her, it would seem pretty wierd because thats not what i have been doing while talking to her. In other words, you touching her in a right way builds up comfort which is crucial when dealing with rapport.
The more comfortable she feels, the more effective is your rapport.

C) Kick your ass out of that comfort zone and stop living in a castle which is build up on fears and assumptions toward how she is going to react.

If you ask me, you should kiss her the first time you meet her. The problem is as big as you create it. Dont be affraid of the shadow because the anwser aint that big.
Just do it!

[ Johnny B ]

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Johnny B makes a great point about making a big deal of kissing her.

Dont make a big deal of it. I mean,that goes in every aspect of life or pick-up. Dont make a big deal about laying her neither. It should be a small thing as if you're used to that and she'd sense that.

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