Alright so i went out twice this weekend and both nights i got the same results. here is an example of how most of my sets would go.


Me: hey can i get a quik females opinion on something? (Two Set)

hb8: Sure

Me: My friend has been in a longdistance relationship with a girl for a month
now, is it ok if he breaks up with her over text message?

hb9: nooo Way its soo rude
(we do some fluff talk about the text message break up for about 45 more seconds then i transition)

me: hey How long have you guys known eachother?

Hb9:forver we are like best friends

me:alright let me give you the best friend test then
(i do the test and most of the time they love that shit)

ok this is where my sets go to shit after the transition we fluff talk for a bit but the conversation slowly dies and i feel forced to eject from the set. i approach about 12 sets a night and atleast 9 turn out like this and i need to get past this but i dont know how. Please give me some advice.

The conversation should flow naturally.
If you're going to stick to canned openers, try involving kino as well, maybe you could tap her on the shoulder and then ask...or try a funny opener, most girls respond well to funny things and if they see you as a funny guy they'll have an easier time continuing conversation

one i read from the paragon project crash course was:
(tap on the shoulder)
"i can't find my friends! you didn't eat them did you? "
i think it goes without saying that you can't use this on overweight people,
but it's a neg, and a funny statement all in one, and a false time constraint, because it seems like you're going to have to leave to find your friends.

i don't know, if you're in a club just find someone dancing really goofy, and be like,
'haha, look how silly that person looks'
then it's story time
"i once had a friend who thought he was a great dancer.... but he really sucked....blah blah blah blah"
then get them to talk about their friends that suck at dancing.

remember to kino.

you'll get the hang of it eventually, conversations need to be natural
it's pretty safe to follow the path of:
open
say something about your surroundings
tell a story relating to that
pass her the story stick

it works for most situations...
the other day, i was outside on my friend's porch and a girl had been there.
opener: wow look at all the stars
hb: yeah, i know there's tons
me: my friend thinks that clouds are more fascinating than stars...we had a huge debate about it.
hb: omg! clouds are definitely not better than stars
me: that's what i was saying. he was saying how clouds are all different shapes and sizes and that they can be really mesmerizing on a nice day
hb: yeah...that's true
me: but i was like, stars are so far away, and there are millions of them out there, it's just so unbelieveable, when you think about it, that space is full of so many things when everything we need is down here.
etcetc.
just continue kino escalation, a high five went to her sitting on my lap.

only #closed...i have a girlfriend. a k-close was within reach though.
anyway, just be creative about it. that whole clouds vs stars thing never happened, i just made it up.
you have to be able to tell stories to build rapport.

another method is to skip opening and just assume they have rapport with you.

Sounds to me like you hook them, but after it starts to stale out as you not sure where to take it?

At this point if you did best friends test and giggled (good sign) you should realize that you need to move into your attraction stuff. Now some prefer canned to non-canned routines, but I recommend creating a stack as this would reduce this issue of not knowing where to go bc you could just stack ahead to a routing you already have in the can.

Personally, from the sample convo you gave I would go into "'so whats your name?" this is my setup for some name teases and help me transition to some of my personal attraction routines that i do not share on the boards. So what I am saying know where you want to take the convo and set it up to steer it there.

PM me and I could give you something to try

once you got them opened and you have gone through your first routine i find a really easy way to transition is to say: oh where are my manners my name is... put your hand out to shake there hand it forces them to give there names its just human nature and polite vs asking for there names which sounds like your doing a pick up.. ive notice the more suddle your approch the less bitch shield they through up and are less likely to blow you out, one its intreaging to them because they have this guy talking to them being funny and interesting yet hes not trying to get with them which helps establish you as the prize once you have there names i love to use this one on my target

girl: my name is jessica
pua: wow jessica thats a really unique name what is it turkish?
both girls:will giggle no
pua: oh your parents were hippies i get it.. before they can say anything dhv with a story here.. this should get you atleast 3 minutes into your set and have them locked in with a hook point. i personally like to dhv a story about my friends and i and then bring up that im actually looking for my friends ( false time contraint ) normally during my dhv i can get atleast 7 and 8 ioi's between the two targets, when your finishing your dhv you wanna set up an open loop with the looking for friends line so tell 4/5's of your story. this will make them want closure and find you more compelling because you have basically left them on the 2nd to last page of a book where everything is all coming together. normally they will ask you what happend in your story once you bring up your friends thing.. try and make this into sexual misinturperation.

i like to tell them we got off a train... couch blah blah what ever you got off of to do the next exciting thing

85% of the time they seriously ask: so what happend after you got off?
pua: why are you so interested in me getting off? dont you think its a little soon in are relationship to be asking such sexual questions about me? i meen you havent even offered to buy me a drink yet and your already trying to talk dirty to me, i try and drag this out as long as possible with a Cocky/Funny tone this helps to set the sexual frame aswell... some where around this point they all drop the same fucking question: ARE YOU GAY? and they say it all obnoxious like as if you would be hitting on them if you were gay? this is really just them trying to regain the frame because they know your up points on them now. hope all this helps.