Hey Guys.

Ive noticed myself just stumbeling into the subject of attraction
while gaming girls. Its a subject where someone who has studied
a lot of PU material will know so much more then the girl.
Im using it for DHV purposes mixing my knowledge of socialdynamics
with stories from my own life - telling the girl perhaps of my ex
and why it didn't work and so on.
In the begining I was very firm on my believs and it didn't work,
cause I would then give the impression of being very static.
I heard Mystery say that he was talking to a girl - him leaing agaist the wall -
to take a look around, pointing his fingers saying: "That girl over there is attracted to me now because you are all over me.. "

Im not saying a guy should go all nerd and tell a girl everything he knows,
but if you give the impression of being the guy who knows what was really going inside the targets head or in the contact with guys she been dating when..
-her last boyfriend brooke up with her
-she brooke up with her boyfriend
-finds it meaningless to have a onenightstand
-doesn't get turned on by needy guys
-thinks she's the one doing "the pick-up" when she infact probably just waits around for a guy attractive enough not to tell "fuck off".

You'll seem experienced and thoughtfull. (Major DHV if you allready have her attracted)
This can be a really good thing if your gaming an older women.

Let me know what you think of this!

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Vino, vedi, vici.
I drank some wine, I saw her, I conquered

Telling a girlfriend about your ex is potentially safe. I don't know the situation though, I mean did you tell her about your ex within 1 week or shortly after meeting her? Previous relationships etc. may be told to her safely after around 1 and a half month to 2 months of meeting her. Assuming the conversation is geared somewhere in that direction alswell as a clear connection between you to.

Leaning back is a good thing, if she makes a step in.. take a step back.

This is my blueprint for this routine.

1. Opener
-Hey, I've got a question and it'll only take a minute.

The beauty of this is that it can even be good if the target doesn't seem
to intrested cause it will only prove the point later on...

She: Eh.. yeah, what?
Me: I was talking to my ex earlier today and she told me something
really interresting. She studies pshycology and she said that
communicating with other people, especially for a girl isn't very easy.
I mean look at yourself! (C&F and a little backturn on her)
Her: WHAT?! What do you mean (Now she's has to know..)
Me: (ignoring her question) I think its pretty sad. Did you know a lot of
girls think their boyfriend is likely to sleep with another girl just because
she's sexy and is talking to him.
You arn't like that are you?
(If I push her its likely for her to admit that she sometimes feels this way
and thats something to use later)

She:Eh.. well. No, I mean.. ( and she starts qualifying herself...)

Then a bit later in like a Mystery A3 stage I go:

Me: I forgot to tell you the secret behind communicating with succes.
If you think someone is intresting and you wish for them to like you,
make them tell something about themselves that you really like and find interesting.

Me: You should be really glad I botherd to talk to you,
cause now that I know a little bit more about you
I might even consider seeing you againg (C&F).



Now.. DHV in this routine is ofcourse the fact that I know more about this,
and Im quite relaxed with the idea of perhaps meeting her again or dont.
Its no big deal. And by in this way proving to her that Im capable of
talking to any girl and for her that means its possible for me that get any girl.

Or.. Do I have this all wrong talking about an ex girlfriend story?
It was over 1,5 years we brooke up and we are still friends eventhough
doesn't live here anymore. Is that hard for a girl to accept? Will she get
turned off by just hearing this if I show no sign of being needy or missing her?

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Vino, vedi, vici.
I drank some wine, I saw her, I conquered

I don't quite get how the convo starts though. Do you start by saying Hey or something and then she replies "Eh.. yeah, what?". I personally wouldn't use it as an openner, it would work better later on.

Using this routine in the right situation is what will make it have it's full potential. I think it is safe to talk about your ex but I wouldn't use this routine on a girl you have never meet before. You definitely need some kind of rapport etc to use it as a routine.

What do you mean is it hard for a girl to accept? You are obviously going to have an ex girlfriend one way or the other (hopefully) so she has to accept that. I doubt she would get turned off by hearing it if you show no sign of missing her. Delivery will also be somewhat important, but don't worry about it.

Overall a pretty good routine, the importance is when you use it. Using it as an openner to a girl you haven't met before would have the worst results, simply because talking about your ex is to personal to start with. Just my opinion, it could work though.. give it a field test

I think that the idea of talking about your knowledge is good for DHV, and I do it a lot. If you do it correctly the girls will smile and be impressed, but if you seem too cocky or whatnot they will think that you're pushing their buttons and controlling them, which will make them walk away. However, I am often asked after doing something like the cube how I know that (because girls ALWAYS love the cube), and whether I go to school for it. You just respond with "No, I just like to stay busy, so I'm always trying to learn new things. I read a lot about social interactions and the way people behave and things like that..." Then you point something out about their body language, or someone else in the room. "Like, I can tell that you're probably a pretty emotionally focused person. You tend to follow your heart, don't you?" They'll smile and say "Um... yeah. OMG, how do you know that?" and you'll say "Well while we're talking you keep looking down, toward your heart. It means..." Blah, blah blah... and then tell them the different ways people move their eyes and what it means. Always end with whether they are lying or not (up and to the right is a lie, up and to the left is remembering) and then say "So you better not lie to me, young lady!"

I also tend to give PU advice to the obstacle, because the obstacle always seems to be having some sort of drama. Just be like "Listen, you need to ignore that guy and make him come to you, don't play his game..." something simple, but true. I've actually led an obstacle to a successful number close in a bar, which is a HUGE DHV and of course they all want to see you again. When they ask how you know that, you just say "It's human nature..."

Just be careful, you don't want to go into details about your actions and how you knew the response they would create. You can talk about their past relationships like you were saying, but never say "Like when I walked up to you, I said that I only had a second because I knew that would disarm you if you didn't think I was going to stay here... so you were more willing to talk to me." That makes you sound like a creep, and she's going to think you're trying to control her or something. So use it, but be careful! Don't give away your secrets, you can't ever talk about what you know in a way that is directly related to picking people up. You'll blow yourself out.

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"As to the deceit perpetrated upon women, let it pass, for, when love is in the way, men and women as a general rule dupe each other."
-Giacomo Casanova