So I spotted a group of HB6's today.

I went up the them and did my unserious opener:

ME: What a lovely day to be disturbed by a stranger, don't you think?
THEM: [Laughs] Yes, totally! Haha.
ME: So I have this bet with a friend of mine, and I need you guys to answer a question for me.
THEM: Sure, what is it?
ME: Would you rather have sex with Jesus or a guy in a wheelchair?
THEM: (After a few minutes of laughters and explanations) We'll go for Jesus.
ME: Okay then (a little small talk....bla bla bla....)

NOW WHAT?

Should I isolate a desired target or what?
A detailed explanation would be really appreciated.

Thanks!

Ben.

to give a detailed description, we'd need to know how many there were and where were you like club, town etc

once you let me know that, i'll give you what i woulda done in that sitch

I was at a beach.
There were 3 girls.
They were all sitting down with me and discussing this.


Anything else?
Thanks.

at the beach, hmm. never been in that situation myself but i think it has a simple solution.

you just ask if any of them want to swim, but if you've made your mind up on one specific girl, look her in the eyes as you say it and do a lil nod to the sea so she knows you want her to go more than the other 2.

if none of them say yes, i'd take off everything other than my swimshorts and TELL them to look after these then run off before they can reply.

most of the time they'll join you, if not, start gaming girls in the sea as the 3 set are likely to be watching and talking about you.

after a couple minutes, go back to the 3 set and neg them again about not coming in, if they still refuse, go back to the same set you had in the sea. if they still don't join you...they may not be interested or one of them is, but doesn't want there friends judging her.

go back out, get the stuff you gave to them, keep negin them and then say 'well how about we all go in the sea another day?' if they say yes, thats an easy number close.
if they say no, neg them and say 'well what are you up for then?' then just say okk, we'll do (whatever they said)' and number close. walk off and start to open another set or just go home if you want

-teen

i geuss teen's thing would work but down to the basics, u just want to cf and bust them on your response. like this:

Girls: Jesus
You: (stare at them for a few seconds) Are you kidding me? you know he woudn't be jesus then.
Girls: Why?
You: wtf doesn't jesus have a chastity belt?

i geuss basic stuff liek that, bust on their response and be cf

sixady...i never give the advise "be cocky funny", every PUA does that even at basic levels...its not a helpful piece of advise, its lazy if anything

-teen

Zentrode, first off well done for opening, it take a lot of guts and it's all progress baby!

I think Teens answer was little too specific, it's not really helpful for other situations where you're not at the beach or if you don't want to strip off and run into the sea like a loon..

You want to reach the 'hook point' - this is where the girls are happy to stay and chat you you, this is the point at which they ask you a question, i.e. they are interested in you. This can be anything from "so who would you fuck?" to "what's your name".

If you're just starting out, get a stack of openers, so after your jesus opener say something like:

Zen: Oh actually while I'm here, let me get an outsiders opinion. I can only stay for a few minutes before I have to get back to my friends but..

Then run jealous girlfriend or whatever other opener takes your fancy. This way you wont run out of material and eject prematurely.

Also at this point it's fine to just fluff talk.. "Where are you guys from" "What do you guys do" and of course the golden "How do you all know each other". The last one is great because it gives you a lot of hook points and a huge amount of info on the group. These questions are fine - it's all learning and helps you to calibrate. Although eventually you want to move to statement questions, which we can talk about at another time.

Lastly, you didn't mention it but were you standing over them or sitting? If they are sitting then the best thing to do is to get down to their eye level in front of them, sit on your calves - pay everyone the same amount of attention - maybe a little less for your target. This stops you from looking too leery over them and makes it much more comfortable for everyone involved.

As for isolating the target, don't worry about that for now, it's complicated and requires a much more detailed explanation especially in day game, just get comfortable opening girls and try and number close.

Hope this helps, best of luck (although we all know luck has nothing to do with it ) If you need any more help you can always ask or PM me.

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- Scratch

A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty

That, is, absolutely ridiculous man. You can't PLAN out an interaction with a woman. Thats the WORST way of approaching this, any REAL natural can tell you that. You did good, but first off, Women arent fucking stupid. They know goddamn well, why, you are walking up to them like 6 secs after you start talking. at this point, their wondering "what is he doing? why is he asking this stuff?" Its just plain weird. Your playing games with them, and they READ it. Any questions, please ask me.

he wanted specific help for that situation, so i gave it to him. he wasn't asking for general help...coz giving advice on that could range from being in a super market to a mountain. he wanted it suited to the beach.

-teen

If its a 3+ set, you want to isolate the target. If its a 2 set, you want to be direct to the target but dont ignore the obstacle.

Here are somethings I noticed, 1.) you didn't need to go to the opinion opener since she already gave you an IOI by her laughing when you "disturbed" her. You could of pushed the interaction with banter.

2.) Why didn't you banter? Logical fluff talk does nothing to get you closer to the close. Banter will get thinking more emotional then logical (aka "attraction" material in MM). The usual result of banter is that she laughs. There are TONS of shit on banter online.

3.) When she has a BT spike because of your banter, escalate the interaction by doing a compliance test or else you wasted that BT spike.

4.) after enough compliance, sit her down and go into comfort game. Screen her and qualify her.

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Maybe you could have gone with the basics there, for example asking how they know each other and at the end of their explanation just go change completely the subject, giving a neg on your target or making a joke.
Something you could say that in some way would neg them all, is saying they're the kind of people you look to be friends with, because women allways will think if some stranger start talking into them, it's because he's interested.

Then, start a routine with the target, some sort of reading would do good; after this, you'd have to try a situation where you could isolate her, maybe asking to swim or any place you can buy drinks nearby, saying you're thirsty. Here at Brazil in most of the beachs there are bars all long the way, that'd be where I'd try to isolate her then.

summary of all previous posts: You can go from negging the target to challenge the girls on their answers to whatever you want. Try different things and keep the one you prefer. In my opinion it depends on the feelings I have about the girls , the interraction. I mean , for example, I'm a negger, I neg everybody since I'm born, in the contrary challenging for me is a little bit less natural , so do it your way.( that's not what I do , that's a stupid example for you to understand)

Don't plan what you will say word by word because , if their answers differ from what you wanted them to say then you will be lost . What you can do is using some canned routines , or transition sentences, but that's all.