Short and simple:

Whose responsible for spicing things up in an LTR-the girl or man?

Im usually the one getting creative,adventurous & spontaneous;I have no probs' with that.

But is it always,and should it always be on the boyfriend to spice it up?

Would relying on the woman to spice it up be weak of the man?

I know in pick-up,it's all on the man to attract and do all the work.

But in the LTR phase,does it remain the same,or should the bf expect the gf to step up and spice it up also?

Or would it be too much to expect the woman to take lead in that way?

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It depends on the girl and on you, are you cool if the girl spice it up? But as for myself, i prefer being in charge especially in organizing dates and stuff.

Sometimes let the girl to spice it up, and i only do that to see how much of a fun person she is, or to understand what she wants "ie me and this girl decided to have a movie night, so i asked her to organize it because i wanted to know whether she wants to watch the movie at her house and hook up, or if she actually just wanna go out and have fun"

@Hobbit-Short & simple;cant argue with the fairness of that.

@Jay Dog-Makes total sense.

Depends on the person.

My MILF gf's very reserved in general,so to rely on her to be spontaneous would be a waste of time.

So it boils down to the individual and her character.

Well,I guess that leves me in the driver seat as usual.

But I'm really bored of having to initiate date,sex,meet-up,positions,place of sex,time,etc......

Thanks for your posts Hobbit & Jay Dog.

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I know how you feel, I have been in similar situations where the spice was there in the beginning and now just all lost while I spin my wheels with trying to make it fun and exciting as sex in a relationship is very important and should not be deemed as serious...but fun!

Before you throw in the towel, let her know how you feel, but...again, I have been there, I tried and it just fell on deaf ears but not everyone is the same, it's why I say try first. Those I refer to were just normally like that, afraid, embarrassed or saw that it was not lady like to do those kinds of things, at least that is what they told me when we talked about it...My thoughts, we are in a relationship...its me...not all of the town but it didn't matter.

Everyone has their reasons...I simply say try and talk with her...it's the best thing you can do...other wise, then you are correct to say that it's up to you...honestly...the next big question is...is this what you want? I myself wasn't happy with it.

I'm not trying to lead you down a road of despair but it you aren't happy now with the situation, understand that this is just how it may be...if it's OK with you...bust out the bubbly and the KY because it's ON!

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if you find your GF boring for a consistent amount of time you aren't happy in your relationship.

and if you aren't happy in your relationship, you better step out of it.


I've been once with a very hot girl, but boring as hell. Socially incapable of making friends, all day at house watching movies. In the end you get enough of it and you brake up.

K-loc, once again you open a topic which reflects your troubles within your LTR. Is there actually anything good about it?

If i read well, you are a guy which is capable of dating lots of other woman, so why the fuck are you still wasting your time with this GF which is obviously NOT meeting your needs????

EXACTLY!

DUMP

THE

BITCH.

NOW.

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Its time to dump the bitch bro, I always see you posting about how miserable this bitch is making you. Leave her dumbass and find someone better.

@Cedius-Good points on trying to get it in order before just bailing.

@Apocalytica-Lol,you're consistent at pointing out failure in my LTR;thanks for that.

And my case is similar to your past,in the sense that she's very reserved and can lack motivtion to do anything besides sleeping.

And great last point Apocalyptica;I am capable of hooking up with other chiccs.

Maybe I do need some tough- love advise from yall guys to get my shit together.

@Blondguy-Lol,more tough-love advise.

The wake-up call I need.

Bitching to her about stepping up wont change a thing.

So from yesterday,I'd decided to take some space.

Come on guys,give me credit for that at least.

Im taking it slow.

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Its your call on whether you walk or stay...but you wouldn't be posting on here if you weren't happy. As true as true is...this isn't going to change and you have a lot of potential...I know I do...I just needed to snap out of it and get down to doing the work again!

Do the work...you'll find better and if you have to bang a many girls before finding the great one...well, I don't think you will find that hard to do...but if so...I'll stunt cock for you! Damn that sounded GAY! Let me re-iterate...I'll hit it for you!

My point...I think you know what's best suited here...so you need us to tell you that you aren't happy, it's obvious you aren't.

Take this time to think it through...know, once you commit to walking, don't go back or post here that you went back to her...that's not cool, because you know...you are going to be saying....WHY THE FUCK DID I GO BACK. but we all learn, I did...

And credit is given...you know what you want...Now, you just need to do it!

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Purple light...did you just jack this post?!?!

Well, it seems simple...you can try to break her but if her beliefs are to wait...then either stick around and marry the girl or leave...this is going to cause more frustration and anger and I honestly can't say you are wrong to feel that way...it's in our nature...we as men want and need to fuck...girls dont get that...but if this girl won't...then there are many others that will.

Point is, she has beliefs...you feel she should break them for you as any other girl would...but if she doesn't want to for whatever reason she has...I feel if she were going to, she would have by now. Stick with her or move on.

Perhaps others can chime in and give you the game you need to break her...but as for me...I have no tips as how to get around this other than an ultimatum but I don't see that working in your favor...anyone got any ideas?

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Perhaps the age difference has something to do with it. She might be out of the whole partying phase.

K-Loc,

In an LTR, the "spicing up" and the action happening in it should be mutual. In fact, if both people are in love, they will both do anything in their power to keep the LTR alive. And if they both feel that the thermometer has turned colder - they will come up with a solution. . . together.

The fact that you're asking US about this problem clearly shows that you have communication issues within your LTR, correct?

I'm honestly surprised your LTR hasn't crashed and burned a long time ago! You are one heck of a warrior K-loc, lol.

Let me also conclude with the fact that I agree with the others when they say this is a waste of time. This MILF of yours has been nothing but trouble. And she definitely knows how to fuck with your mind!

You can do so much better, seriously.

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All of yall make some great point;thanks.

@Cedius-Lol,very funny.And good thing you changed that comments.

Dont worry,I may call you for the sub'(lol).

@Mr.Amazing-Correct,I had considered the age difference being a factor.

Her libido's(sex drive)probbly declining.

Little Panda-Mutual is the way to go.

Correct,we do have major communication issue.

She has actually-I dont.

I always tell her to be open with me.

Lol,thanks for the props on being a warrior Little Panda(lol).

You've been a regular poster on my posts for a while now and my LTR issues.

I dont want to be a warrior falsly holding on to a lost cause.

But as Cedius and others has said,being diplomatic should be the 1st option.

Dumping a chicc on the dime just because she's not as spontaneous should occur after diplomacy.

But I can do better Little Panda.

The current issue isnt 1 of respect.

Just wish she could've been more expressive.

Thanks guys.

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I think "spicing things up" should be a mutual thing. However, in real life there is always gonna be one person putting more effort in. How you start a relationship is how you finish. If you start off always being the one to initiate, she is going expect it...off topic: whats with the "K-Loc" name? You guys got gangs out there too?