Hello,

I got a lot out of this forum so i want to give something back.
Hope it can be of some help to so mebody.

There was an hb9 i picked up a while back. A real populair girl.
She was very busy with her work though(travelagency) so i didnt see her much, but when i did see her i actually just went strait for sex because time was limited.
This gave her the impression i was a player and she refused to see me.
She wouldnt respond to my sms's except for one time mehows "hey i was a t the zoo today and i saw a cute fish that reminded me of you She thought that was funny.
anyway, she was online on facebook and i started a chat with her:(i'll comment on it like this)

Mark

agata, did u know that i get a message that u want me to take one of these stupid tests on when i'll get married? :P (not really but it happens )

10:50amAgata

You're joiking? :D

hahaha so when???

10:50amMark

uhm... about 10 minutes ago :P
10:51amAgata

when do you want to get married???:D

10:52amMark
(don't respond to her questions that lead nowhere, stick to my routine)
but it's nice to meet a girl that is thinking about a serious relationship :P usually girls only think about sex and nothing else :P

i'm not getting married :D

and u??

10:53amAgata

Im not like that and you know that!

10:54amMark

like what? marriage or sex?

10:55amAgata

Sex of course!!!You wated only sex from me :)

10:56amMark

oh sweetie... do u really think that?

11:00amAgata

Yes of course You're addicted to sex

11:01amAgata

At the biggining I thought something different...but...

11:03amMark

Yes i know.. it's terrible.. i better go to a clinic to get rid of this terrible addiction that
is ruining my life :P(little cocky funny here)

hehehe just joking sweetie..(i felt like i had to release a bit, dont know it was really necessary though.. but couldnt hurt..)

11:05amAgata

I'm not saying that its controling your life but sometimes I felt that you didn't care about me and that you wanted only sex...

11:07amMark

Oh by the way.. what i ment is... i know i wanted a lot of sex, because that's just what a healthy relationship is.. but really agata, not that it matters now because we are just friends( i release in advance here), but all i wanted from u was just a girlfriend to do a lot of fun things with because i thought that u were very sweet and beautiful.

11:08amMark

and u know.. in the beginning i tried to get your adres because i wanted to send u a dozen roses,.. but u wouldnt give it :'(:'( so i never send them :( :P that was kind of a downer :P

but lets forget about it agata :) (takeaway)

11:08amAgata

:( (she's starting to crack )

Youre wright lets forget about it...:)

11:10amMark

well,.. maybe not forget :) but at least,.. it all doesnt matter now :)

ok sweetie.. i gotta go do some work now.. (just make sure she doesnt think i'm sitting on my ass, which i was actually doing)

byebye

talk to u later :)

11:11amMark

oh yeah,.. i remember it now.. i wanted to sent u 23 roses, one for every year u were without me :P hehe silly huh? :P (bait)

ok c u :) (takeaway)

11:17amAgata

So sweet I never thought that you could do something like that...:/:/ (bingo!! hook!)

11:21amMark

I thought that u didn't.. i actually have the feeling u never really knew me.. like i said.. i wanted to do a lot of such things because that's the way i am when.. well.. i meet some one i really like..(reel) but i never got the chance to show u..

but let's not get into this :) (release)

I'll talk to u later because i have a very important deadline, and still a lot of work to do :)

c u, have a nice day

That night i got a txt from her inviting me to her place because she just had to see me


peace!

ok, so the chat continued today. I didnt see her that day because i told her i was busy(i was actually stoned and didnt feel like i was on top of my game, just chilling with friends)
Mark

dikd u lose your job?? :P
7:47pmAgata

why???
7:51pmAgata

I didnt I'm still working in travel agency why r u asking??
7:51pmMark

because u r always online lately :P

or do u have vacation?
7:54pmAgata

I have a free weekend and Ive started to use facebook at work sometimes because lately is really boring there...
7:55pmAgata

I going for vacationes on 15th of september only 2 weeks left :D I cant wait!!!:D
7:55pmMark

where r u going?
7:56pmAgata

to Spain remeber?
7:56pmMark

ohyeah! of course i don't remember :P but i remember now that u told me :P

so u got any plans for today??
7:59pmAgata

I'm staying at home I've been on Malta todey and than we went to Stary Rynek to eat something...besides I'm going to work in the morning tommorow...
7:59pmMark

ohh that sounds nice :) who were u with ? :)
8:00pmAgata

with my friends few girls why??
8:01pmMark

BECAUSE I HAVE TO KNOW EVERYTHING THAT U ARE DOING BECAUSE I AM A STALKER!!! :P :P :P :P :P :P :P hehe no just interested :)
8:01pmAgata

we went home quicly because it was getting cold ;(

what else would u like to know about me???;)
8:16pmMark

would u like me to want to know something else about you? :P
8:23pmAgata

what a strange question??
8:24pmMark

yeah,.. i know :) it wasn't serious agata.. i was hoping u would say something smart. but i'm sorry,.. u didnt :P

hehehe
8:26pmMark

how's your dog? :)
8:27pmAgata

thanks
8:28pmMark

:)
8:29pmAgata

he's o.k I think he's sitting next to me as always ;)
8:30pmMark

aaawwwww :)
8:32pmMark

my first girlfriend in holland used to have a little dog too :)

she was 6 and i was 5 :)

i like older women :P

she always used to lift up her skirt and show me everything :)

because she wanted to be a stripper :P

but one guy stole her from me :(
8:34pmAgata

great what a beautiful memories
8:34pmMark

his name was josh and he was 7 and had a leather jacket :(

but now i have a leather jacket :)
8:34pmAgata

hahaha yeah I remeber
8:34pmMark

so now u know why ;) :P
8:35pmAgata

girls have crush on u when u r wearing it
8:35pmMark

i hope so, that's what the guy in the store told me when he sold it to me :P

no sweetie,.. those r all jokes.. i hope u understand :P
8:37pmAgata

as always :)
8:37pmMark

good :D u past a smart test ;)
8:38pmAgata

wow it makes me feel better!!!:)
8:38pmMark

that's what i'm here for ;)

:P
8:40pmAgata

should I thak u for that??;)
8:40pmMark

only if u mean it :)
8:42pmAgata

of course I do!o.k Mark I'm going for walk with my dog wanna go with me?;)
8:43pmMark

sounds very tempting sweetie but i'm meeting gucio in twenty minutes.. but i'd like to have a face to face talk with u, in which we r both sober :P another time :)
8:44pmAgata

o.k have a nice time :)kiss
8:44pmMark

kisskiss :)

After that I thought to just go for it... i've been playing hard to get for to long.
so i txted her "does your offer still stand?"
she: "that depends, do u wana take my ofer?"
me"i could use the fresh air "
she" u r joking?"
me"no, txt me your addres"

she txted me her adres, i took a cab to her place and we walked around talking. i did a few routines on her that i wrote myself. Really feel like i know what i'm doing lately, it's nice
But u know what's funny.. does anyone have this. u r with a beautifull woman, u r kissing her, u know that u r just gaming and u r going out tonight to pick up more hb's but your body is telling u to stay with her.. i mean, your emotions r getting to u and u staRT thinking about how great she would be as a girlfriend... Although i don't want her as my gf.. i want a supermodel, or at least a playmate as a girlfriend
don't get me wrong, this is a gorgeous woman, but it's definetely not where i wanna settle..
anyway, i'm home now, i'm a bit drunk as i'm writing this
tonight has been a big exorcise in controlling my emotions,.. tomorow will be more day game for me.

peace out people! keep the pimp hand strong! don't let those bitches get you down!

good hook- reel -release over and over
your controlling the frame all the time

lodewijk, game jij in nederland??

ja ik game in nederland .. nah gamen zou ik het niet zozeer meer noemen ik zoek meer iemand die bij me past, maar het blijft leuk om te gamen
jij ook in nederland ?

nee ik doe het vooral in de grotere steden van polen en duitsland. Wanneer ik in nederland ben zit ik meestal bij mijn moeder in het suffe zwolle, daar is weinig te gamen met die boerinnen, dus zit ik meestal gewoon in de coffeeshop

toch. ik zou het graag eens in amsterdam doen. Het probleem is dat veel materiaal gewoon niet werkt in het nederlands... heb jij al enige successen?

I'd like to comment on your statement about being in the moment and wanting to stay with her. Thats your gut telling you this is a good thing, and to explore it further. Myself and many other guys would have stayed with her and continued to have an amazing time. Create some memories.

You did very well getting her, but the entire conversation came across as scripted. My point is that, where does the routines stop and your personality kick in? If everything is as scripted as it seems, eventually a girl is going to catch on to the fact the facade you put up in the begining isn't the real you. I'm not saying you aren't that person you came across as, this is just a third-person perspective from an observer.

It wasn't all scripted. A lot of it yeah..
But I can vibe very wel, don't worrie

I am planning on seeing her again, but just not as my girlfriend. A friend with benefits will be better. The feelings will still be there, and i think i'd even feel better about it, and hopefully she as well. it will be a first for me.

Any tips on that?

I can't get a gf now because i've been gaming since juli now, i've made so much progress (although i just read the part about the female point of view of the office romance in magic bullets, that stuff gave me nightmares, woke up sweating and couldnt get back to sleep ).
I need to keep it up now if i wana get good, this will also do my future relationships much good.