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When I first met her she had just finished a two year relationship and turned into a massive slut (those were her words). We work for the same firm and bump into each other often during shift change but, rarely work together.

At the beginning I ran some week game on her and surly enough, we hooked up for a short time. She wanted some repeat business, so I decided to end it because I didn’t need that sort of bad publicity.

This made things a little awkward in the work place after. Eventually we started talking again and got really comfortable with each other. But, I resented her life style ONS’s and Drugs.

I wanted to see if PUA style can make her realise that she’s attracting the wrong guys (afc’s and wannabe alpha male douche bags). I started running some powerful game on her. I took her to venues and left her on her own so guys would try to pick her up then I’d walk over and alpha the obstacles and pick her up PUA style.

I’m confident enough not to take drugs or drink alcohol, she followed suit. I keep fit she started keeping fit. I have never forced her to do these things.
She’s got a girl friend that is still living the rock star groupie life style. They hang out together and meet up with low value guys. She tells me she blocks those guys when they try to make a move on her and how lame they are etc.

Recently I have noticed a few inconsistencies in her stories, but not called her on it. I don’t want to look emotionally attached or insecure. I’m not sure if she’s obsessed with me, but everywhere I go she follows (even overseas). She still gets nervous around me like we just met; she cooks dinner for me when I’m at work and buys me things. She has definitely invested more into this than me. But I still feel like she is and always will be a hoe.

Question

I just want to know if there are any success stories of turning a hoe into a housewife so to speak. It seems like it its happening but I still have reservations. It’s been 3 months with this project so far.

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I think that you are approaching the problem with the wrong mindset. She appears to be coming around to your behaviour because you are providing her with a worthy model of acceptable behaviour. You are making a mistake, however, by continuing to think of her as a whore. The best way to inspire somebody to change for the better is to invoke their own determination to improve.

It seems like you're kind to her, which is good, but in some subconscious way, your opinion that she is slutty probably registers with her. A crucial step in effecting lasting positive change is to condemn her behaviour without levying a judgment against her character. If you tell her (even subconsciously) that she is a whore, then you sustain a kernel of negative self image on which she may fixate. Her negative behaviours won't be intolerable. Rather, if she's actually a slutty woman, then they'll just be par for the course. If you communicate respect and admiration for her, she will strive not to let you down.

(Note: before anybody starts the argument that there's no such thing as slutty women, just women who enjoy sex, recall that even virtues, taken to irrational excess, become vices.)

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Some vices miss what is right because they are deficient, others because they are excessive, in feelings or in actions, while virtue finds and chooses the mean.
Aristotle, Ethica Nichomachea

Thanks for the advice.

I hope I'm not unintentionally telegraphing negative judgments towards her. I am however, very open about despising her best friend's lifestyle. The best friend would be a nice girl if she wasn't giving it up to every guys she meets. She's the type that goes searching for low value looking guys, they treat her like shit, and she doesn't use contraception.

I've had deep and meaningful conversations with her best friend using boy friend destroyers on the guys she talks about. I've even made up venue destroyers on the sleazy clubs she tells me she goes to lol.. In the end her reactions show that it comes across as constructive criticism.

Her friend tried to impress me by not sleeping with a guy for a three weeks after meeting him for the 1st time. But he ended up being to over possessive. Then she went back to slut style.

I think a bad friend is an intervening variable that keeps her in this cycle. Maybe I should introduce her to some girls that have higher standards and morals?"

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I wish you all the luck in the world. But I dont think its possible. I have tried this a couple times. No luck. But I aint no expert.

I dont think you can fundamentally change people. I think she will be cool for a while but you have to be so careful, if you slip even for a second, she will return into her natural character. If its been 3 months - that aint very long. If she was slutty, she is probably the adventorous, pleasure-seeking type. If she is hot (8-10), Id say its dangerous.

The relationship will get tested when all the "newness" is over and you are inevitably stuck into a routine and she just gets used to you.

Anyways, if her friend is a slut, those chicks are real bad influences. They need to be cut out, if you ask me. They will usually influence her eventually. They just eventually start sharing their messed up logic.

If you want to make this girl do a 180, I'd say she needs to change her whole lifestyle, her whole world should change.

Sorry - if I am projecting here, but I have had a similar experience with an ex. All that cooking for you and neediness, is awesome but often that has to do with neediness. That neediness can be very dangerous and backfires, if you ever lose your luster.

Anyways, interested to see how it turns out. If you suceed over time, you should post this and explain how you did it. Id love to know. Nothing better than a chick who knows what she is doing in bed and can be loyal.

This is actually a very interesting thread and I am eager to see what the moderators and MPUAs who have researched human behavior etc. have to say.

Here are my thoughts:

Environment, which includes your friend circle, people you meet on a daily basis and where you feel comfortable influences your mindset-behaviour and character etc.. You cannot change someone who doesnt want to change, period. IN the case of this girl I think that the fact that she is doing things for you and you are nota part of the drug culture etc. shows that she is probably making or lets say considering changing.

You should complement her for all the odd things that she does. But again, she has gone and lived the lifestyle of a druggie and once you have that experience you get de sensitized to such an environment and hence can fall back to it anytime.

You should ask guys like Doctor, Chief and some of the other MPUAs here since they are into NLP, physiology and other such things. An environment change IMO helps but to change her completely is not as simple as it may sound.

Lets see what the others have to say, I am quite interested in this thread.

I definitely agree with ZEGlass here. I think you are a victim of the self-fulfilling prophecy. What this psychological theory states is that you hold a belief to be true, so you consciously (or subconsciously) project it and treat her according to your belief. When she acts in a slutty way, even if it is just the smallest thing, that confirms your belief that she hasn't changed. You have to be willing to forget her past in order for her to change. Reinforce her new behaviors by complimenting and rewarding her positive changes.