Over the last year I invested CONSTANTLY in a girl who i genuinely believed would change my life. She was special to me. Really. We spent hours on the phone every night for a year straight. At first I thought we both saw it like a tradition lol - to call for that long on such a regular basis. Then I realised - that none of us could actually stop talking to each other. We didnt have the will to. So i took her virginity, and we have been like a couple ever since we met.

About 2 months in - I moved 200 miles away. We are like each others diarys. Confide absloutely everything and anything inside one another, with complete trust. Completely in love. I saw her as much as possible. We had plans to move in with each other next year. From the start we had never been friends, always somthing more. Always.

At one point I gave up everything to do with P.U for her. Didnt think of females as sarging material - just as friends. Didnt even do anything with a girl for months. (I never went a week without some kind of outreagous sarge ending in a threesome). I didnt sarge. I gave up everything. I have always said I would never consciously change for anyone. Congrats beth - you pulled it off pretty decent.

Ok so about a month back, she asked me to be her boyfriend. This confused me, as I had already asked her to be my girlfriend, and she said no because of the distance - and because she also started seeing another lad called ben (She didnt say that ben was one of the main reasons, but you cant teach pickup without being able to tell certain signs). So I asked her why she asked me to be her boyfriend - and she said that she loved me. I said - yeah i know but you rejected me 2 days ago when i asked you. She was silent.

So when I visit her again, more than friends as usual, she tells me that she needs to talk to me about something. Turns out she fucked this ben on her bedroom floor a couple of hours of telling me that she loved me, and couldnt wait till i visit in two weeks from the time.

The beauty of it is she met this kid the same day that she left my place, having stayed a week, subject to more constant investment.

I cant actually explain the imact it had on my head, but it physically felt like someone had grabbed a saucepan, and put it straight around the back of it. She told me about it - about 2 weeks after it happened, having lied about it consistently when I asked her. Its the trust that shocked me. Trusted her to never hurt me. I was in an ice hockey penalty box on the phone to her when she told me, and i just fell to the floor in shock. Literally. She then had a STD scare, which I found out after her sleeping with me unprotected, and she hadnt been checked. (turns out she didnt have anything)

I developed a cocaine problem out of depression (Its funny the way even the PUAs get screwed over by females), after swearing that I would never go back to her. Its not fun sliding a sirenge into your veins, hoping that the dose of happiness will end your life and pain your in, with a smile on your face. Turns out I did go back to her, just because I couldnt bare her not being part of my life. As i said i invested everything in her - she made me who I am today. (She is fully aware that I coach pickup - and picked her up from the start).

About a month on from finding out, we are together as a couple. But it is STILL constantly on my mind, constantly contradicting my thoughts and moods. People tell me Im not the same, not the fun person I used to be. Its had a COLLOSAL IMPACT on my inner game, and concentration. My confidence has been slaughtered, and Im scared to confide anything in anyone, apart from her best friend (as crazy as it sounds. I know that her friend wont tell her or anyone else. She is probably the most trustworthy person I have ever met).

I wont be able to concentrate throgh my A level exams - Ill be seeing her being nailed to her bedroom floor by someone else rather than freuds theory on oedipus complex or something. She is flirty in general, flirts with everyone. What is seriously worrying me is her leaving prom. Im so fucking paranoid, shes going to do something like it again. Maybe not even that - just SOMETHING that will put me in anywhere near the same amount of pain as I was, and still am in.

Heres whats annoying me as well. I know for a FACT that I could easily ruin this girls life in the space of hours. I could tear her family apart, turn her friends against her after sleeping with them and bring her confidence lower than the dirt on my shoes. Usually, if I get screwed over, I dont hesitate to inflict as much pain as possible - socially, emotionally and psychologically. Her best friend (as much as she hates it) would literally jump at the chance to get me to finish beth and get with her instead. Thats how high her buying temp is. But I just cant bring myself to hurt her. I cant do it. I care and love her too much. If anyone else ever hurt her, I would kill them. Without hesitation. Who would I be to go and contradict that care?

It doesnt sound like a life changing deal. But It hurts so much. She didnt even hit LMR. Thats what drives me insane. No token resistance. Nothing.

I feel like Ive not only failed myself and you guys, I feel like Ive failed her and my relationship with each other.


What the hell do i do????

spend 3 months in foreign countries tryign new things




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u do what every alpha male pua would do....

pick urself up, get amongst those perfect dimes, go crack sum strip club game, get ur frame back...

I think what must of happened in ur head is

u pick her up ur totally mPUA and like it
u start bonding but essentially u start to become an AFC bf
u start being bit possesive and a bit needy with it
she then rebels and tests how possesive and needy u r
after this she pushes to far and hurts u
she then starts to doubt her feelings because she cheated
shes in a place where she doesnt kno if it to fucked to try again or not fucked up enough to be gone forever

meanwhile

u start kicking urself, cursing to urself and generally undoing all the hardwork being a PUA did for u
u let her take away the things we fight so hard to obtain;
dignity, respect, pride, alpha mentality, strong frame, sexually dominant...

These things that u built as pillars of strength in ur PUA game are effectively the biggest weapons attackin at you.

She knows ur internal framework by now, she knows which pillars hold up ur internal structure and shes kicking them trying to get either a reaction or watch the whole house fall down.

Love hurts.... simple.... I avoid it but yet it always finds me.

Just dont give it all up to love, I love my gf but one of my key points at start was about my PUA'ry and my desire to train others. We have a mutual respect for the game and she understands my passion for it and to help others.

U need a decent woman who isnt over distance mate, that or u need a hareem or hot latino chicks waiting to make u feel better....

Where bouts u based? u mentioned Alevels so must be UK.

Im an essex / london boy, maybe a bit of sargin with sum PUA trainers mite help put ur frame back in place?

I actually run a course on rehabilitaion post-ltr sort of thing, aimed at ex PUA's or people who used to have Game of some respects.

That and I coach how to have the Perfect Relationship and stay alpha.

DUde,,, that's some heavy duty shit. Really sorry to see you hit with that. But it's a reminder to everyone. There is no guarenteed game. There is no gaurenteed read. The only thing that is 100% guarenteed is that at some point, life is going to lay a major flaming turd on your doorstep. Looks like today is your day. Tommarrow may be mine.

Dude, hang in there. You PUA skills are keeping you afloat. You just need to sort through things.
Now that I like. That is some honest shit. That shows you got a grip and you're the good guy you've always been. Don't sink with this.

Here's my spin, take if for what it's worth. Let's break cheaters down. 2 kinds right? People who are self centered scumbags, and people who made a fucking mistake.

I honestly don't think any person can make it to old age without thinking melencoly, with a tear in there eye, looking back at a past event thinking "why the fuck did I do that? I hurt him/her/them so fucking bad for no reason! I was so fucking weak". No one. That's life. They old guys playing dominoes in the park,, they all live with some regrets. All of them.

SO break it down for yourself. What's the case here?

For your lady, you're gonna have to make the call. SHe's either gonna stay or go.

I think for your brain though, the route to recovery is the same. Dude, fess up, admit that every single one of us is an accident waiting to happen. Ok? We're are all flawed. You got to forgive her.

I know that may sound pretty fucked up right now. But it's not only a moral issue. It's a practical issue. You are filled with poison. DUde, slit a hole in your ankle and start pushing that poison out. Forgive her in a real way. Let the negativity go. Lose it before you drown.

I'm assuming she's an awesome chick who made one mistake. SO think about her. She must feel like a total and complete sack of shit. Do something positive to bring her up and you will bring yourself up. That's Alpha male shit man. I don't fucking care what people think, I think, decide and walk my own fucking path everytime. Do this from a position of strength.

Good luck bro. You got a lot of people feeling your pain.

I actually run a course on rehabilitaion post-ltr sort of thing, aimed at ex PUA's or people who used to have Game of some respects.

That and I coach how to have the Perfect Relationship and stay alpha.

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Thanks man, I really appreciate the offer. It just so happens, that I still have wicked game, (outer), and that you coach theories similar to the ones which I teach also. Probably my strongest point is on staying positive.

At the end of the day, I know all i have to get me through this is me, and my head. Thats it. 969 guys. 969 will get you through ALL your problems. Thats all you need, for the happiest life possible. 969.[/u]

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Just need to know what to do now.

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I talk about this exactly.

Dropped her like shes not.

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I strongly believe that once you start dating, you still have to be a PUA at heart. Of course you don't actually cheat on her, but if you don't keep being the guy she was attracted to in the first place, then you won't be the most attractive guy in her life anymore.

So keep being popular, keep flirting, make it obvious you could get any of these girls anytime you want, and when they take it too far, push them away "Woah there, I got a girlfriend, remember?"

How fucking hot would a girl be for you if she sees girls dying to get with you and you're pushing them away and she knows she's going home with you tonight?

How is any of that relevant to this case? Just curious?

Oh and ive taken her back bdw.

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Um, just the part where you said you gave up everything PUA related for her... I'm really surprised you had to ask, but I'm putting it down to being blinded by love, by being in the situation. You have to be ATTRACTIVE for her to be ATTRACTED to you.

Everything everyone's been saying relates back to that concept of not giving up the PUA practice, of not giving up being attractive. I strongly suggest you have another read of Zikki's post, it's one of the really good ones in this thread..