So here is the issue
I'm seeing this girl we aren't going out just seeing each other, she is still a virgin and I'm not, I'm about 3 yrs older than her and here is the problem. I'm losing all my pua instinct she is blowing my mind because it feels like she is gaming me half the time.

She says that she is scared that we are moving too fast, but I've told her we can go as slow as she wants I don't want to sleep with her until she is ready.

What is really grinding me is that she will go and tell her friends this but not come and tell me which is buggin the hell outta me. I'm wondering whether it is worth completely slipping back and stop acting as if I'm in a relationship and treat it as if she is a random hb that I have picked up and I'm getting with, no feelings involved or not, any ideas guys this is blowing my mind

Wolf [/list]

Hey man, just chill out. That's the problem. You're so over-reading this, it's not even funny. Understand that you can be married to a woman twenty years and have ten kids and she is still gonna tell her friends shit you ain't ever gonna hear.

I think the problem is you're in too deep. You got to seperate yourself from the situation a bit. I don't know you or your situation. But I will mention that guys who get clingy or needy get played for chumps and dumped.

Oh and by the way,,, you can't "cool-act" your way out of that. They will still read right through you.

So if any of that rings true, I would get a handle on it. Because none of this stuff really has anything to do with her. You're gonna have to adjust your approach for her and all the other women you'll be meeting. Tons.

PUA skils aren't just about the pickup. They're also about mid-game and end-game. So now you got an opportunity to adjust your mid-game.

Tip:mid-game technique is the same as the pickup. That's why the "natural" approach is best. Because it's not an act and can be maintained.

Good luck man and have fun.

ccol bro thank you for the advice, have you got any tricks or tips for distancing myself from it and pulling out a bit from being too deep, I mean the thing is I have never really found a girl I liked or wanted to have a relationship most of my experience up until this point both pre and post discovering the Venusian arts is one night stands so I think I feel like I'm just spiralling out way outta my depth !!

Thanks

Wolf

That's great Wolf. You are definately on your game. Any guy who understands that some small adjustments can take you a long way is gonna go far. Some people get a big ego about it and are screwed.

First off, take a look at your esteem level. Is it way up there? If not, work on that. Build yourself up in your own mind so that you are definatlely the dude. If you can really build yourself up, you'll realize that you don't really need this chick. You're only doing it because it's fun for you.

You definately want to be in a position that she wants you more than you want her. Playing "distance" games like not calling back will eventually fail. When she said "let's meet Sat night". ANd you say "sorry I already made plans" it's got to be real. You actually have to have other stuff to do than to open your entire schedule up to this one lady on short notice.

ANother angle to think of. You may get dumped. She may choose another guy. She may be a secret lesbian with no real interest in you. Whatever the reason, consider she may end things. Where your mind needs to always be, is that you don't care. Understand? Chick walks. I don't fucking care. Can you take your brain there?

Now since your brain is in the correct zone. It also leaves all of your options open. Want to dump her? Fine. Want to bang her BFF? Fine. SHe has some annoying habit? Dumped!

This is not being hard on the ladies at all. They love shit they cannot have. It creates a huge ammount of attraction.

The best way to get to that place is to date a lot of women and really get a feel for it. In your case you can persue other interests. Lift weights, hang with your bros, study whatever. Just find other stuff for your brain to think about other then her.

I'll give you one trick that's worked for me in these situations. There are a ton of others. But one thing that gets my brain on track when a girl gets a lead on me, is that I'll start thinking and treating her like my brat little sister. "You want what?,, you're such a pest,,, go back to your room!".

ANyways,, it's a short question with a big answer. Fact is, you could write a book about. Also,,, that's my take. I'm sure their are other great opinions. Do more research on this site for more ideas.

But one thing that gets my brain on track when a girl gets a lead on me, is that I'll start thinking and treating her like my brat little sister. "You want what?,, you're such a pest,,, go back to your room!".

Love it nightrider...

One tactic that shifts the power in my direction is to criticize (in a somewhat playful manner) something they are wearing. "what's up with that hat (with a sour look on my face), i don't like it."

I actually made that comment to a girl one night at a club...she was following me around like a puppy dog trying to qualify herself the rest of the night.

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Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

Knightrider is completely right.. what a great answer to a great question.
Im in a relationship SPAM and yeah I've been in your situation fella.. she told me she wants to take things slow blah blah fucking blah.. fact is that I believed this and it fucked me up for some time! Im talking like 6 months, Im still not properly over her now..

You need to detatch yourself from the situation as knightrider suggested. Difference between naturals and PUAs is naturals dont give a shit about the girl (which ends up to them losing the girl) and PUAs give a shit but remain unattached.. remember that and as for AFCs... well we wont even go there

Chin up son boss this bitch

cheers guys I knew if I came here I would pick up some good ideas. My best friend is a natural but wierdly his ideas aren't that different tithe ones that you guys have suggested

Anyway thanks again il post if any more issues. If anyone has any other ideas il be more than appreciative to them for sharing their wisdom.

Wolf