Hello gentlemen,

I'm a lesbian in my mid twenties. I'm feminine, girl next door type of girl. Not butchy at all, whenever I go out in straight places I get at least 5-6 guys that approach me.

I'm currently single open to anything. I've recently found myself in a fun but confusing situation with one of my very good friends.

My friend claims to be straight with an openness to bisexuality. In our friendship of 5 years I never hit on her except only once I casually mentioned if ever she wanted to fool around, I'd be down but she didn't want to at the time.

However, recently things have shifted. It started out one night she slept over and we cuddled in bed. Another night we were out clubbing, she was drunk and suddenly just kissed me. The next day she told me how she was drunk and didn't mean anything by it, I didn't think anything of it at all I told her and we just went forgot about it.

Another night we were out together and we talked a lot over dinner. She was telling me how she would make out with me but not sure if she would be able to go all the way. And how she would kiss me over certain people we know. Then, we went out to a gay bar and she pretended to be my girlfriend the whole time. Touching my thigh, holding hands, letting me kiss her cheek. We were about to kiss and she said she needed to drink more. I didn't push it.

But as the night went on, she full on made out with me the ENTIRE night. Tongue, touching and grinding each other all over. We spent the entire night making out basically. She was letting me touch her breast and all lol I'm sure you guys get the picture.

I slept over at her place, we kept kissing, I was giving her massages. But we were both drunk and just fell asleep cuddling.

The next morning I was turned on as I was spooning with her and we basically just made out again but she was slightly resistant. Despite that we were almost having sex. My face was all over her boobs kissing them and just as I was about to finger her she just didn't want to. I was majorly turned on at this point and told her to go on me. I was holding on to her breast as I told her to hump me and I came.

I wanted to eat her out so badly but she kept telling me how she's just not turned on at the moment but that maybe she would let me eat her out. And we proceeded to make out a bit.

After that night we talked about it a bit, she's glad I enjoyed myself but she feels that she can't get wet enough and she keeps saying that maybe she'll let me eat her out. She keeps hesitating for us to go all the way which I won't push.

But what frustrates me is that we went out last night and she is very hot and cold with me. She danced close with me a few times and other times she would push me away because out other friends were around, which is understandable. She told me how she would be making out with me if they weren't around. She says that I don't have to return the favor of making her come even though she says she never got eaten out properly by any guy before. I didn't push anything but it's this hot and cold behaviour that annoys me.

Mind you, I'm not just focusing on her. I'm on multiple dating sites trying to get other girls. It's just that it comes so close with her and she pulls away before going all the way.

Gentlemen, please give this lesbian dome advice on what to do with this ambivalent girl.

Sounds like she's just curious but doesn't want to consider herself bisexual or lesbian. Seems like she is willing to explore her options with alcohol. I don't know where you live, but you can serve drinks at home where I live.

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What I've always wondered is. Isn't alcohol sober thoughts being expressed?

She says how she doesn't mind us making out sometimes. Whenever I want. But it's this so close yet so far tension we have. I'm not chasing her. But I can't help but feel so horn around her ever since we fooled around.

It could be, but you can't translate them to be emotional or just curiosity.

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I see. Agreed.

Ever since that sexual threshold has been crossed between us. I seriously get wet just in her presence. I want to f*ck her so bad. I am trying not to get any one itis or show any neediness towards her as I don't text her as much and talk to other girls. I don't want to create awkwardness but I don't know where to go on from here.

Honestly gentlemen I'm afraid that I may start have liking her.

Close friendship of many years (heightened intimacy) + sexual physical contact = more depth developed

But I don't want to like her because I know I don't have a chance since she is currently going on dates with guys and wants a dick. She said to me.im just missing a dick

The line "pay attention to what a woman does and not what she says" (in the context of seduction and early courtship) applies here as it does for men.

She spent the night with you and was very affectionate. There's no reason this can't happen again as long as you play it cool, escalate when the opportunity arises and game other girls in the meantime.

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She's curious but conflicted.

Jack mentioned serving drinks at home. That's really not a bad idea you know.

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Yes you guys are right. The reason why last time was so conflicted was because a) she didn't drink enough and b) our other friends were around

What I'm trying to do now: be less needy. I am pulling back. For instance last night, around 1230 she texted me to go out with her and her sister. I was already busy plus nothing would have happened if I would have went since her sister was there.

I also am pro telling her to go on dates with guys to show that I am not emotionally attached to her.

I haven't replied since last night. I was thinking of saying : so what was your cute sister wearing "

Since she knows I find her sister attractive


So being less needy, pulling back, disqualifying her and pushing when the time is right? To build attraction.

Let me know gentlemen

Look I understand your burning want to fuck her, but you also must understand that fucking her is probably the most you'll get out of this.
That was the right thing to do in the context of you trying to seduce her, but not sure if it was right in the context of you two actually being friends.
Are you friends?
Is your friendship real? Is it more important that your desire to fuck her?
You should be pro telling her that not to show you're not emotionally attached, but because you aren't[u/] emotionally attached.

I personally never play this game. Unless I'm doing it to be cheeky but in that case it's blatantly obvious I'm just teasing. I don't actually play the jealousy card.
Not saying that it can't work, just that it's a messy way of doing it.


I mean if this girl was a confirmed lesbian/bisexual then considering attraction would be more justified. But I don't think your problem is lack of attraction, it's simply her not being committed to the idea of intimacy with another woman.

There are an absurd amount of women who will have kissed other women or even do it regularly at parties. But being open to that doesn't imply being open to actual sex.

So yes be less needy, but understand that attraction is not the main issue here.

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You should probably record it when you seal the deal, so we can assess the most likely outcome.

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Thank you gentlemen for your responses.

I have quite the update. Last night she calls me to hang out. So it's just me and her watching a movie at her place. Our knees were touching, then I started playing with her hair, then started to tease her by blowing on her stomach but I didn't push anything. But then as I was about to leave, I picked her up in my arms and she fell on me on the couch. And SHE started kissing me as she was sitting on me. We kissed intensely and I was touching her everywhere kissing her boobs and slowly made my way to finger her. I finger ed her for a bit and she was moaning but we had to stop because her sister was walking around the house and she didn't want her to hear us.


So she initiated the kissing and she says we're friends with many benefits. I'm letting her come to me I'm not gonna initiate the hang out to not push it to much.

What do you gentlemen think

I think, where it is 'experimental' for her, more permanent for you.

There are many kinds of love in this world. But pain and heartbreak are pretty universal.

There will likely be a day when she chooses someone over you. Be prepared for that.

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You guys have a very valid point, and that's why I'm not getting attached to any outcome with her. Just simply enjoying some physical contact with her when it happens. I'm focusing on other girls, so I'm not dispensing all of my energy towards her.


The only thing is that ever since we last saw each other and made out we haven't spoken to each other. Usually we send each other some kind of snap chat or text but these past few days nothing.

I haven't because I don't want to seem like I'm pushing anything and I don't know why she hasn't, maybe she's confused now, doesn't know how to handle what happened, I don't know.

Thoughts?