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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:23 am 
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I've been dating a girl for around the 9 month mark. It's been pretty good for the most part (as far as I can tell) I'm happy, she seemed to be happy etc. We both work a lot, I'm a firefighter, she's a bartender so our schedules are pretty messed up so most of the time when we hang out its in the late evening after her shifts and then I'll have to get up early for work. Although we have done date nights and a few fun things when we both have days off.

Anyway last Tuesday (a week ago) a scheduling conflict came up with me and I had to cancel plans that we were making together. She was super pissed off and but eventually it seemed okay. However the entire night she was being difficult, being quiet, not making conversation, or being polite, and at the end if the night she picked a huge fight with me (hard to explain but basically got pissed off cause I turned a light off outside in the pool) I fought back with her and then ignored her and she ended up leaving which surprised me.

After that we began to fight via text, and she told me to bring her stuff over (I'm assuming that means break up) when the dust settled we were able to talk a little more like adults... I said "I'm sorry, you were a good girlfriend and I'd like to at least end on good terms, thanks for all the good times etc"
She said that she already thinks she made a mistake and that maybe she just needs some space to,figure things out.. I said take all the time you need we can talk when you're ready.

Friday we talked a bit, I said I miss her and if she still wants to talk.. She said that we have a lot to discuss and that she hopes we can work it out.

Sunday we talked a little more (this is still all by text) she said she hasn't had time to think that much about it cause she's busy w work. I said that she's important to me and I wanna make more time, she said that 'something changed in our relationship and she wants to figure out what it is and if it can be fixed. I said maybe I feel it too, and that we wouldn't be broken up over that fight if we loved eachother. She said that hurting me is really hurting her and I said it's okay I'm an adult I'll get over it and that I understand that people and feelings can change. Then she said she would like to talk and see if we can figure this all out, and that we need to be honest and open with each other.

Today's Monday/Tuesday and we haven't talked since

Anyway if you're still reading this, thank you, lol I know it was long winded and unorganized, but it's a way for me to get it off my chest. I'm basically wondering what I should do when we talk, or, if anyone else has experienced something like this. Like I'm not even sure if I'm being dumped or what's going on or how to act when I see her. I like this girl and I'd like to work on things with her, but I don't really see what the issue is, whether if it's just that she lost interest in me or what.

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I've been dating a girl for around the 9 month mark. It's been pretty good for the most part (as far as I can tell) I'm happy, she seemed to be happy etc. We both work a lot, I'm a firefighter, she's a bartender so our schedules are pretty messed up so most of the time when we hang out its in the late evening after her shifts and then I'll have to get up early for work. Although we have done date nights and a few fun things when we both have days off.

Anyway last Tuesday (a week ago) a scheduling conflict came up with me and I had to cancel plans that we were making together. She was super pissed off and but eventually it seemed okay.

Would be helpful to have more detail on the fight. What was she upset about specifically?

However the entire night she was being difficult, being quiet, not making conversation, or being polite, and at the end if the night she picked a huge fight with me (hard to explain but basically got pissed off cause I turned a light off outside in the pool) I fought back with her and then ignored her and she ended up leaving which surprised me.

Obviously the fight left a residual for her, and the light was simply the straw that broke the camels back for her.

After that we began to fight via text, and she told me to bring her stuff over (I'm assuming that means break up) when the dust settled we were able to talk a little more like adults... I said "I'm sorry, you were a good girlfriend and I'd like to at least end on good terms, thanks for all the good times etc"

Why go there in suggesting things are over? Seems a bit premature, or knee-jerk given what you've shared.

She said that she already thinks she made a mistake and that maybe she just needs some space to,figure things out.. I said take all the time you need we can talk when you're ready.

There's no resolution to the fight, she's not sure how to deal with it and feeling overwhelmed as her feelings aren't being validated. "Sorry" is a sorry word it does nothing to resolve situations other than sweeping unmet needs back under the rug. It sounds as though she'd wanted some empathy, but did not receive it. Typically when a woman wants space she's not feeling heard in spite of repeated attempts.

Friday we talked a bit, I said I miss her and if she still wants to talk.. She said that we have a lot to discuss and that she hopes we can work it out.

Sunday we talked a little more (this is still all by text) she said she hasn't had time to think that much about it cause she's busy w work. I said that she's important to me and I wanna make more time, she said that 'something changed in our relationship and she wants to figure out what it is and if it can be fixed. I said maybe I feel it too, and that we wouldn't be broken up over that fight if we loved eachother. She said that hurting me is really hurting her and I said it's okay I'm an adult I'll get over it and that I understand that people and feelings can change. Then she said she would like to talk and see if we can figure this all out, and that we need to be honest and open with each other.

She's indicating she's not throwing the towel in yet, I wouldn't be so hasty in doing that yourself - stop with the talk that you two are done, its a bit drama and not a good look for a guy who should be leading.

Today's Monday/Tuesday and we haven't talked since

Anyway if you're still reading this, thank you, lol I know it was long winded and unorganized, but it's a way for me to get it off my chest. I'm basically wondering what I should do when we talk, or, if anyone else has experienced something like this. Like I'm not even sure if I'm being dumped or what's going on or how to act when I see her. I like this girl and I'd like to work on things with her, but I don't really see what the issue is, whether if it's just that she lost interest in me or what.
The way I am seeing this is she simply wants to feel heard. She has a need for connection AND understanding both of which aren't being acknowledged and instead met with you talking as though things are over, and offering an apology which quite honestly means nothing. She was left hanging emotionally. It SEEMS like the plan cancellation sparked this - perhaps she was really looking forward to some quality time with you. I would find out what's going on for her in the moment, the next time you speak, and really give her the empathy she's needing WITHOUT trying to fix - u'll likely be surprised how helpful it is just to give her the ear she's likely wanting from you.


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n2 is somewhat right but at this point I'm not sure attempts of salvaging will yield any positive results.

The more you push the more she'll back off. Stop contacting her and let her come to you.

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Stop contacting her and let her come to you.
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Walk away. She was already looking for dick months ago and probably fucking the dude right now. Whatever the case shit obviously isn't working out


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She's met someone else man. Not saying she's banging another dude, but she's entertaining the idea.

This behavior may be surprising to you, but its not at all surprising to anyone thats been lurking around these forums long enough. Its one of many of the exact same stories over and over again. It ain't always easy dating a bartender who's subjected to being hit on by men every single night for a living. Theres an old expression that goes.. "If water hits the ground long enough, its going to break". How many times can one say no?

I'm sure you'll be straight though man. But in the small event that I'm wrong about this you're going to have to give her space and let her come to you. You've made your case already. She knows how you feel, and she clearly knows that she can get back with you if she feels like it( not a good space to be in btw). So theres no real challenge for her here. Perhaps the thought that you're moving on can inspire passion in her again, but you'll have to leave that up to time.

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She's met someone else man. Not saying she's banging another dude, but she's entertaining the idea.

This behavior may be surprising to you, but its not at all surprising to anyone thats been lurking around these forums long enough. Its one of many of the exact same stories over and over again. It ain't always easy dating a bartender who's subjected to being hit on by men every single night for a living. Theres an old expression that goes.. "If water hits the ground long enough, its going to break". How many times can one say no?

I'm sure you'll be straight though man. But in the small event that I'm wrong about this you're going to have to give her space and let her come to you. You've made your case already. She knows how you feel, and she clearly knows that she can get back with you if she feels like it( not a good space to be in btw). So theres no real challenge for her here. Perhaps the thought that you're moving on can inspire passion in her again, but you'll have to leave that up to time.
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Thanks for the replies. Still a little confused..

She contacted me two nights ago saying that she doesn't know what's wrong with her, why she's walking out on the best relationship she's ever been in. I said 'I don't know, don't blame yourself' she asked why I said 'because it's not your fault or mine, things happen for a reason.' Then she asked me if I think we'll be okay and I said that I hope so but I'm okay if they don't. Then she said that doesn't sound very convincing and that she loves me and doesn't know what's going on, and I said that she could always talk to me and that I won't try to fix anything, I'll just listen... She said that means a lot and then I said goodnight.

That's pretty much it, the plan is to still meet up and talk and try to work things out, whatever that means. Still don't know what would make someone just change overnight like that and if she was seeing someone else why she would still say she loves me and wants to work things out. I've started to move on though, I was sad at first but now I think I'm fine, went on two dates this week to get my mind off and not be so obsessed with her. I would just like to see what I did wrong in the relationship so I can correct for the future. I thought maybe it was not doing enough fun things together or whatever.

When I meet with her how should I act?

Again thanks for the replies especially the first guy, I found your advice useful, n2thevoid.

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Sounds like IF she is seeing someone else, then she is having buyers remorse and trying to weigh the pros and cons of her decision. When you leave someone that is certain, it's common to run back for security. That's the case here, even if there ISNT someone else. She isn't happy but she is considering staying anyways. Figure out what is making her unhappy, what she needs, and you might be able to salvage this and also ward off any guys that are possibly meeting those needs.


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Then she asked me if I think we'll be okay and I said that I hope so but I'm okay if they don't. Then she said that doesn't sound very convincing
Doesn't sound like much of a leader.

From the info you have provided, you are acting too beta and she's losing attraction.

When she told you to "bring my stuff over now", you say "come and get it". That's how a woman threatens to break up with you (or is close). Don't bring the princess her stuff like an obedient butler. Nice attraction killer.

It's okay to tell her you care about her, but half the part of keeping a relationship is not dwelling on all this negative shit. It sounds like there was a fight and you dug a weird whole with beta, fatalistic comments.


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Still don't know what would make someone just change overnight like that
It isn't overnight. It's a string (weeks) of acting like a woman. From what you describe, she acts like the man.
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went on two dates this week to get my mind off and not be so obsessed with her. I would just like to see what I did wrong in the relationship so I can correct for the future. I thought maybe it was not doing enough fun things together or whatever.
Good idea on the dates, but
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When I meet with her how should I act?
Like Jason Statham. She hugs you. She spills to you. When you find a key, and I mean key piece of the dispute, you apologize for it once, and then move the fuck on and have fun. Don't get bogged down in the Debbie Downer whining and unnecessary negative meta comments that you described.

1. Ask questions, talk LESS (most men don't get this)
2. Own up to what she's mad about.
3. SMILE
4. tease her
5. FUN


This shit is supposed to be fun. Make jokes, fuck hard, get drunk or high, whatever. Just have some fucking fun. Surprise her with small things (not gifts, but events). Take her to a shitty bowling alley and get wasted, then play an arcade game, winner takes her bartending tips, etc. Tease her that she was eying the female server, call her your little flusie, whatever, treat her as equal, tease and surprise.

It's your job as the man to led the interactions to FUN. That's it. You're looking for this complex answer, this gloomy, pinpoint plan that can save this.

It doesn't exist. And it wouldn't work it if it did.

Find out why she's hurt. Own up to it like a man and look her in the eyes when doing so. Then move on and have FUN. Change the dynamic. No more mopey texts. No more mopey talks.

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I've been dating a girl for about 8 months, it's been pretty good she has some jealousy issues but for the most part I've enjoyed it.
Recently she's been getting on my case about not putting pictures of us on social media and stuff and the other day she blew up about it. I suspected something and she left her phone open when she went into the shower, I know I shouldn't have checked it but I did and I read some texts from an ex-FWB from some time ago.
He basically said she should be single for the summer and if she ever wants to party message him or whatever. She said no at first and then about two weeks ago sent a message asking him for the after party. From what I gathered they didn't meet up although there was some flirting in the messages. Nothing since then.
I'm not sure what to do right now, I almost broke up with her but I also realized nothing actually happened and it was shitty of me to go through her phone. She could tell something was pissing me off but I never brought it up. Obviously if she met up with him I'd break up but right now I dunno what the proper thing to do is.

Same girl man? This was just two months ago.

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Thanks for the replies. Still a little confused..

She contacted me two nights ago saying that she doesn't know what's wrong with her, why she's walking out on the best relationship she's ever been in. I said 'I don't know, don't blame yourself' she asked why I said 'because it's not your fault or mine, things happen for a reason.' Then she asked me if I think we'll be okay and I said that I hope so but I'm okay if they don't. Then she said that doesn't sound very convincing and that she loves me and doesn't know what's going on, and I said that she could always talk to me and that I won't try to fix anything, I'll just listen... She said that means a lot and then I said goodnight.

That's pretty much it, the plan is to still meet up and talk and try to work things out, whatever that means. Still don't know what would make someone just change overnight like that and if she was seeing someone else why she would still say she loves me and wants to work things out. I've started to move on though, I was sad at first but now I think I'm fine, went on two dates this week to get my mind off and not be so obsessed with her. I would just like to see what I did wrong in the relationship so I can correct for the future. I thought maybe it was not doing enough fun things together or whatever.

When I meet with her how should I act?

Again thanks for the replies especially the first guy, I found your advice useful, n2thevoid.
You need to switch gears, ASAP.

I can see she's looking for assurance, NOT in the form of words but action.

She's dropping hints she wants you to take the reigns. BE that guy, even if it feels unnatural for you right now. For you to do this you're going to have to take the helm and pull a 180 with boat you're in. Focus on being in the moment with her, go out, have fun, 'hook up' don't get into these deep conversations.

IF/when she brings up her ambivalence simply validate what she's saying and move on, don't linger or start getting into any probing questions...it WILL pass. You have to recognize that women are 'creatures of the moment' - their moods can change from one moment to the next; you can't forecast it. My friends the other day was mad and called out his Ex who had told him she'd wanted to come over to his place for sex the previous day. When the next day came and he asked when she was coming by she ghosted him. He gets mad and calls her out. Wrong approach. Instead learn to be in the moment, and accept that the more you try to plan things, the more you're trying to control the outcome. Just LET IT BE. Get her out, LEAD, show the BOTH of you a good time and take things one step at a time.

That's really all there is to it. Stop over complicated things it'll only put you more in your head and you'll sabotage this. She wants to see you've changed and can be the man she fell for; the guy who wasn't afraid to take control and show her a good time without her having to feel uncertain towards your indecisiveness.


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Hello long post warning:

I've been dating a girl for around the 9 month mark. It's been pretty good for the most part (as far as I can tell) I'm happy, she seemed to be happy etc. We both work a lot, I'm a firefighter, she's a bartender so our schedules are pretty messed up so most of the time when we hang out its in the late evening after her shifts and then I'll have to get up early for work. Although we have done date nights and a few fun things when we both have days off.

Anyway last Tuesday (a week ago) a scheduling conflict came up with me and I had to cancel plans that we were making together. She was super pissed off and but eventually it seemed okay. However the entire night she was being difficult, being quiet, not making conversation, or being polite, and at the end if the night she picked a huge fight with me (hard to explain but basically got pissed off cause I turned a light off outside in the pool) I fought back with her and then ignored her and she ended up leaving which surprised me.

After that we began to fight via text, and she told me to bring her stuff over (I'm assuming that means break up) when the dust settled we were able to talk a little more like adults... I said "I'm sorry, you were a good girlfriend and I'd like to at least end on good terms, thanks for all the good times etc"
She said that she already thinks she made a mistake and that maybe she just needs some space to,figure things out.. I said take all the time you need we can talk when you're ready.

Friday we talked a bit, I said I miss her and if she still wants to talk.. She said that we have a lot to discuss and that she hopes we can work it out.

Sunday we talked a little more (this is still all by text) she said she hasn't had time to think that much about it cause she's busy w work. I said that she's important to me and I wanna make more time, she said that 'something changed in our relationship and she wants to figure out what it is and if it can be fixed. I said maybe I feel it too, and that we wouldn't be broken up over that fight if we loved eachother. She said that hurting me is really hurting her and I said it's okay I'm an adult I'll get over it and that I understand that people and feelings can change. Then she said she would like to talk and see if we can figure this all out, and that we need to be honest and open with each other.

Today's Monday/Tuesday and we haven't talked since

Anyway if you're still reading this, thank you, lol I know it was long winded and unorganized, but it's a way for me to get it off my chest. I'm basically wondering what I should do when we talk, or, if anyone else has experienced something like this. Like I'm not even sure if I'm being dumped or what's going on or how to act when I see her. I like this girl and I'd like to work on things with her, but I don't really see what the issue is, whether if it's just that she lost interest in me or what.
I disagree with what some of the other posters said - I don't think her behaviour is because of any interest she has in anyone else.


She's a drama queen. She actually had no intentions of breaking up with you - she just wanted to act up because she was upset.

Women will say shit when they're upset...trust me.

She had no intentions of *actually* breaking up, she was just being overdramatic.

Actually, you did the BEST thing possibly initially - bringing her shit over.Showing that you were serious.

These things will happen from time to time. She has overreacted - and she will probably overreact in the future. You have to determine whether or not you can manage these overreactions from time to time.


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That is normal female revision in order to determine who is near: ALPHA or w.
Male popular among female will not tolerate this shit, usually he go fuck someone else. So here is a formula:
"male which eats shit = not ALPHA",
It is also known next female preference:
"Not ALPHA = no sex (relationship) with him"
from above:
"male eats shit = no relationship with him"

Interpretation:
Stop to worry and do not discuss the problem with her. That is mental masturbation, it does not lead to the orgasm. It is time to develop yourself as ALPHA. Go in a FIELD, get acquaintance with other females and just speak, have fun. It will help you to reduce the value of your princess.
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I fought back with her and then ignored her and she ended up leaving which surprised me.
I already had an argument with some of the guys on this forum about this approach, but when your GF is giving you shit, and you need to defend yourself from something as stupid as turning the light off you dont argue with her, you take her stuff, and drive her home yourself and ignore her. Biggest punishment to women is not talking to her.
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I said "I'm sorry, you were a good girlfriend and I'd like to at least end on good terms, thanks for all the good times etc"
Hate to break it up for you but words don't affect your girl as much as you would want to. In romantic movies maybe.
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she said that she already thinks she made a mistake.... [she needs to] figure things out
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she said that we have a lot to discuss and that she hopes we can work it out.
The other guy who's probably making moves on your girl hasn't fucked her yet, so in case he doesn't give her any dick she'll stick to you.
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I said I miss her and if she still wants to talk
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I said that she's important to me and I wanna make more time
This doesn't help, don't say these kinds of things especially in your situation, others posters already made a point that the more you try to salvage this cluster fuck you're really just pushing her more on some other guys dick.


OP, she's stealing away all your masculine traits that you're supposed to radiate with. By being insecure combined with this pleading only reduces your chances exponentially. And one more things:

Fuck what she says, you only judge the status of your relationship by her doings, that's the only real criteria, not words. Girls live in the moment.

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