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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:49 pm 
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Alright folks, pretty cut and dry stuff here.

Girl I have been seeing a bit hasn't really taken the lead or much initiative when it comes to setting stuff up or just keeping in touch. Follows through when we make plans though and when we are together will ask me when I'm free next, and generally follows up on conversation

We've kind of set up date four, I have asked her out all four times.

Not looking for constant "hey you free?" but just would like to see her try, you know.

I have tried the freeze out for a few days, almost a week I think. That didn't really work.

What I'd like to do is kind of craft an appropriate verbal response to her when I see her next that articulates just trying. I know in theory that's not the method but I'm feeling like going against PUA protocol for a moment and I'd just prefer to do things in person when I can rather than ghosting.

I'd sort of like doing this when I see her next because I'm slowly reaching the point where it's not gonna be worth it for me to text her because I'll know she isnt interested but I'm willing to giver he at least a chance after I've spoken my mind.

Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciate.

Fully aware that she's just not that into you might be an acceptable answer


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Alright folks, pretty cut and dry stuff here.

Girl I have been seeing a bit hasn't really taken the lead or much initiative when it comes to setting stuff up or just keeping in touch. Follows through when we make plans though and when we are together will ask me when I'm free next, and generally follows up on conversation

So you're wanting to feel some connection between meets through contact via text/phone etc. Perfectly understandable.

We've kind of set up date four, I have asked her out all four times.

Pretty common script. What does it mean for her NOT to be setting any of the dates? How are your interactions when together?

Not looking for constant "hey you free?" but just would like to see her try, you know.

You'd appreciate some effort on her part to at least initiate some of the time with you. You want to feel desired, to some extent, and that she values you.

I have tried the freeze out for a few days, almost a week I think. That didn't really work.

Why would it? You did so as test to see if she'd reach out rather than speaking on your needs directly.

What I'd like to do is kind of craft an appropriate verbal response to her when I see her next that articulates just trying. I know in theory that's not the method but I'm feeling like going against PUA protocol for a moment and I'd just prefer to do things in person when I can rather than ghosting.

Tell her what you need, she's not a mind reader. If its not in her preference to follow through then at least you know she's likely not the best fit for you and you can free yourself up to find somebody who is more into the little things in between meets.

I'd sort of like doing this when I see her next because I'm slowly reaching the point where it's not gonna be worth it for me to text her because I'll know she isnt interested but I'm willing to giver he at least a chance after I've spoken my mind.

Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciate.

Fully aware that she's just not that into you might be an acceptable answer
You're shelving your needs and taking a passive aggressive approach in hopes she'll just get it. You're not in your masculine.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:35 am 
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Why does it matter to you if she initiates if she is showing up?


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We've kind of set up date four, I have asked her out all four times.


If you have had at least oral sex with her, keep initiating contact. If you have not had any physical contact, set up another date, and then cancel an hour before.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:42 am 
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Pretty common script. What does it mean for her NOT to be setting any of the dates? How are your interactions when together?
Interactions are good for the most part, she wants to take it slow, fine by me.

I should probably add one or two elements which sort of slipped my mind. What I mean was, she hasn't gone out of her way to ask me when I'll be free next. ie if we hadnt spoken in a few days Was kind of hoping that the freeze out would work.

So basically you're saying just gotta man up and communicate with her?
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Why does it matter to you if she initiates if she is showing up?
It's that simple really? I mean in that case, guess I'm good. I'd say these things kind of take two people putting forth levels of effort. It doesn't have to be equal but some give and take id imagine.
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If you have had at least oral sex with her, keep initiating contact. If you have not had any physical contact, set up another date, and then cancel an hour before.
You're gonna have to explain the endgame with that


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:00 am 
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How valuable is your time?

Strong, valuable and sexy women respect a man's time. They go for what they want and don't string men along on six dates for the "Princess Pussy".

It's pretty simple. If there's been physical contact at least as minimal as oral sex, proceed. If not, she's wasting your time, and blowing off the next date is a very nice way of letting her know that without coming off as needy. It's a shot across the bow.

If you are four dates in and haven't even made out (or the make out session was tepid), just bail. This is friend zone shit.

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It's that simple really?
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I mean in that case, guess I'm good. I'd say these things kind of take two people putting forth levels of effort. It doesn't have to be equal but some give and take id imagine.
You can usually gauge how interested someone is by how willing to invest in you they are, so in that sense a girl initiating contact with you on the phone is a good sign. However you don't have to take that to an extreme, some people are just naturally passive. If it is give and take in person, and she is showing up, then who initiates on the phone is sort of arbitrary in my opinion.


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Pretty common script. What does it mean for her NOT to be setting any of the dates? How are your interactions when together?
Interactions are good for the most part, she wants to take it slow, fine by me.

I should probably add one or two elements which sort of slipped my mind. What I mean was, she hasn't gone out of her way to ask me when I'll be free next. ie if we hadnt spoken in a few days Was kind of hoping that the freeze out would work.

So basically you're saying just gotta man up and communicate with her?
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Why does it matter to you if she initiates if she is showing up?
It's that simple really? I mean in that case, guess I'm good. I'd say these things kind of take two people putting forth levels of effort. It doesn't have to be equal but some give and take id imagine.
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If you have had at least oral sex with her, keep initiating contact. If you have not had any physical contact, set up another date, and then cancel an hour before.
You're gonna have to explain the endgame with that

I am saying a man too meek to speak his needs is a weak one.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:50 am 
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Interactions are good for the most part, she wants to take it slow, fine by me.
By the way you havent mentioned anything sexual or physical with this girl and seem to be dodging the points dealing with that, I''ll assume you havent done anything physical with her, at lst past kissing. Maybe if you stop following her lead, you could actually state what you wanted. Given that you're already "fine" with going at her speed, I'd say accept she wants YOU to initiate. Cant be a follower with respect to taking it slow, then expect to become mr.assertive with the texting. Lead or follow. You're already following.


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If you have not had any physical contact, set up another date, and then cancel an hour before.

You ask him if he respects his time but then blatantly encourage him to waste hers?


Anyway, OP, answer the question. How far have you gotten intimacy wise?

Kiss? Sex? Both? Neither?

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I am saying a man too meek to speak his needs is a weak one.
Fair enough. Can't disagree
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By the way you havent mentioned anything sexual or physical with this girl and seem to be dodging the points dealing with that, I''ll assume you havent done anything physical with her, at lst past kissing. Maybe if you stop following her lead, you could actually state what you wanted. Given that you're already "fine" with going at her speed, I'd say accept she wants YOU to initiate. Cant be a follower with respect to taking it slow, then expect to become mr.assertive with the texting. Lead or follow. You're already following.
Okay well that's kind of interesting. So on the second date I was escalating, to the point where I was putting my hand between the inside of her shorts and the swimsuit, but then on two points when I tried to kiss her she sort of begrudgingly accepted it. On date three, I sort of toned down the escalation and got a bit of a kiss/makeout at the end with her making more of a move, also after she told me she wanted to take it slow

FWIW been seeing this girl for about a month


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I wonder when's the last time anyone had a "Let's take it slow" experience that actually led anywhere other than nowhere.

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Nowadays girls are very direct and courageous . they can initiate communication . But it depends on the girl.


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I wonder when's the last time anyone had a "Let's take it slow" experience that actually led anywhere other than nowhere.
Yep.

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