We are both 27. We both want kids. We have been dating for 5 months.

I don't want to even consider engagement and movein until 2 years of dating. Marriage AFTER this. Kids AFTER that.

She wants engagement prior to move in and kids asap. She stresses out over not having kids yet and pressures me about it often.

Other than that, the relationship is pretty good. Very frequent sex, shared interests, good personality match, high level of comfort.

Anyone got input?

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Who pays for the date?

that is normal within first 5 months of dating

my advice is to wait with marriage, kids, as it is quite often that relationship is going sour after 6monts or so of dating

Have you guys talked about it? Did you make any progress?

Is she completely opposed to your thinking? Or is it a "my way or the highway" situation?

Honestly, if you guys arent in sync with this or are ready to give and take a little bit, its going to be a disaster. So if the relationship is great but the future is blurry, that is when women get antsy and start talking about the "biological clock." This is fine if the guy is fine with it too. But you aren't.

I'm not either. A 4 year relationship ended for me a few months ago, partially because I wasn't ready to commit to marriage like she, her friends and her family wanted. I wasn't ready for that and my stance is that I will marry when I know I want kids. I see marriage as the perfect vehicle to raise a child, not necessarily cultivate a relationship. If there aren't any kids, whats the point of being legally bound to a contract? So she can take your money if you fuck up and pound the waitress at the diner? I'm gettin the prenup if I do give in to marriage. Anyways, sorry about the rant.

I'd figure out your priorities and if they match up with hers. Then talk to her honestly about your thoughts, listen to her, then come to a conclusion about whether A. you'll work together to make it happen or B. think about a different future. If you want to "see how it goes", women tend to start looking elsewhere for somebody that agrees with what they want.

situation you are in
1.you are in relationship of 5 months
2.you want kids and she wants kids
3.she wants marriage now
4.you want marriage after two years of relationship.
5.she wants kids now, you want kids after marriage.

what you should do
1.it is up to you. i personally do not make relationships longer than two months.

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5 months is really not that long. I am not trivializing your relationship either... I just do not see an issue with your concerns since it's only been 5 months. Concerns at this point seem normal, given the gravity of what we're talking about here.

You are young and she is young. Assuming she's normal and healthy, she can have kids without any issue for the better part of the next decade -- (then she can still have them but it gets harder and with more risks).

If you love her and she's worth it, make her understand how you feel about things. Her clock isn't ticking that fast (it's really not). If she loves you and genuinely wants to marry you, she'll wait for you if you're not ready.

Being divorced (no kids), and having had a decent share of relationships - some good, some bad, and some with bat-shit crazy women -- my advice to you, sir:

This is your life. Do not be pressured into doing anything you are not ready for. Period.

It is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE to say you are not ready for kids or marriage. Both are giant commitments with serious lifestyle and financial implications. Be sure you're ready... If you have a kid with her, you're stuck with her in your life (in some capacity) for the next 18 years at least... regardless of whether you're married, separated, divorced, cheating on each other, or completely miserable.

Be sure. Do what's right for YOU. Not her.

Try and sit down and discuss on finding a happy medium between both your wants and expectations.

If she can't compromise with you, she is crazy and you should run far, far away. Even if she does, you must be very very wary of women like this. She sounds like trouble to me. Don't forget that as good as you think she is there is always someone better just around the corner. Don't get oneitis.