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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:31 am 
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Quick summary. LJBF'd forever. Recently changed into somewhat if dating situation but no sex. Only kissing and some fooling around. Not even fingering. She said we should stop talking 3 months ago. I went NC and last week she came back and said she wanted to be with me and things would be different as far as sex. So I thought I was gold. Last night she stayed over. Just kissing again. To be fair I didn't try and make a move. Mood seemed off. Now she's coming over again and staying tonight.

How do I f close this? Wait until we go to bed? Try earlier? Every time we go to bed she faces opposite way and curls up in the corner of bed and falls asleep quickly. I feel creepy to just reach around and grab her. Any thoughts??


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:33 am 
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Also if she does give LMR I don't want go pull the "you said things would be different" card. Or should I?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:58 am 
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i would be playing on the couch as close to fucking as possible and then moving to the bedroom

forplay on the couch, watching the movie , cuddle, touching , more touching , kissing etc etc

if you are waiting till you go to bed you will be cuddling yourself again

if she declines all your moves on the couch then i would be sending her home to sleep in her own bed and then going out somewhere else myself ;)


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:09 am 
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Just be very playful physically, fun, and funny. What you wrote is very brief, but I get the feeling you are stuck in your head when you are around her, attaching yourself to the outcome and waiting for THE SEX to come.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:40 am 
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only thing that i could say dude is to make a move.
and you will never know if you dont try.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:24 pm 
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If she's a heterosexual female, in your bed, spending the night that means she wants to fuck. She's waiting for you to make a move and the longer you wait the more she'll either internalize something being wrong with her, or frame you as weird.

Obviously it won't feel natural with her at first since you guys never had sex before, but the onus lies on you as the man to make that move so accept it'll 'feel' awkward the first time but after that it'll feel pretty standard.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:03 pm 
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Get your dick out while she's kissing you and place her hand on your cock. Works pretty much every time.


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