Ok so it's been 20 months or so.

Things have been good apart from my gf has started acting a little shady.

Last night we had a night out. I took her to see a movie then we went back to mine to hang for abit. The whole night she went on and on about how she was so tired (Which was weird because she claimed the night before she had had 11 hours sleep) then decided to go home earlier than usual around like 1am.

I see her off, go inside and realize im hungry, so I drive to town to get a burger. I see her car in front of me which is weird because it's 5 minutes in the opposite direction of her house on the way into town. She then turns to go in a circuit back to her place after I think she had seen I was behind her. So I call her and ask whats up. She says shes going home so I turn with her because im on the phone asking her that.

I then call her again 5 minutes later and ask her if she saw me behind her. She said 'no' (remember this). I said it was weird that she was driving into town when she said she was so tired and she claimed she was going 'the long way'

I call her 20 minutes later and shes in town with a friend. She said she didnt plan on going but because I don't trust her she went in to see her friend (Who I really don't like because shes an ass... ).

She then texts me and tells me she doesnt like it when I check up on her and compared me to her stalker ex bf.

So I don't text her back and the next night round 1am she calls me. I pick up (Big mistake I know) and she brings things up. She says "Why were you following me last night, I saw you driving behind me past parliament. It was creepy." I said "Yes I told you last night I was going to burger fuel and was surprised to see you in town."

She then went on to ask why I didnt follow her all the way home since I made it half way.

I said "You're being ridiculous I talk to you later" and hangup.

I'm going to soft next her because she lied to me again. I know she was going into town and turned back because she saw me and she denied seeing me when I called her but now shes saying she did see me.

Guys I need advice. Things have been good till now but I have caught her lieing a few times. She wouldnt cheat but she lies on small crap like this.

Advice? Am I creepy for following her partially then turning off and getting a burger (I followed her for 100 metres).

Do I need to drop this girl because she doesnt respect me?

Am I being to soft about stuff like this? I didnt soft next her earlier because I didnt think it was a big deal till she bought it up and accused me of being a stalker.

In a relationship that long, you can't just soft next and then pretend everything is fine. If this sort of lying bothers you, and it sounds like it does, then wait for her to come to you about it. When she does, tell her she lied to you about something possibly serious, possibly stupid, and you don't have the time or the energy to figure out which. You found out she was lying by accident, and if she can't come clean and just tell the truth about something small, then how can you ever trust her about serious stuff.

My advice, if she doesn't just come clean and tell you just how stupid it is or she was not to just tell the truth, then there is probably more to the story than you want to know, and your best bet is to just get out.

I wouldn't wait, I would confront her. Lying costs more mental energy than telling the truth, and people only expend such energy for a reason. You want to know what that reason was. If the reason was innocent, she should have no trouble telling.

EDIT: And do not even consider wasting time with checking up on her. If you do not feel like you can trust her, than the relationship is already problematic.

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She is cheating. The late night run, the double back when she sees you and her likening you with her creepy ex bf (this way, she feels justified in cheating as you're the stalker bf) all add to this.

If this is not a troll, I read something EXACTLY like this a while ago. Exact same story. Few days later the guy posted he caught her red handed and she brushed him off while with the other guy saying "that's my ex bf."

Yep, sounds like cheating.

Thanks everyone you are right.

It's a four day weekend here and whats even weirder is a few days ago she said "Lets hangout Monday" (4 days in advance). I said 'no' and started asking why she would say that.

I'm going to confront her about it because somethings up, 2 years in this shouldn't be happening. Its funny that I had a chat with her just a few days before about trust in our relationship because it has been lacking on both sides.

I still don't think she's cheating but something isnt right, something feels very off. Will keep you posted

It's really comical how anyone could say with certainty she's cheating. Not really surprised for it to come from neo87... The guy boasts of having fucked a ton of girls in relationships.

Yes. I have fucked a ton of girls in relationships. Boasted?? No...I made a statement about it. Any guy who has fucked numerous women and had one night stands can testify that many times you'll be in the right place right time with a girl who is pissed at her bf. But that's from another thread.

The opinions I give here are from real world experience from FUCKING and dating tons of girls, as opposed to a book by a guru. I've gone out with a few guys into pickup and sure they're good at TALKING to girls and not making moves but they seldom score and give tons of advice based off of no experience. Most posters follow this pattern, but the real players know the difference between being "fair" and common sense. If your girl is acting shady and hiding her cell phone, I wouldnt give you the PUA bs, "it's a shit test" or "you're insecure...need to alpha up" advice. I'll tell you the common sense shit : "she's texting a guy and probably fucking him or about to."

Betamax, your gf is calling you with guys in the background, telling you she took guys' numbers on vacation. My advice was to run. Try to make it work with a girl like this just shows how much of a scarcity mentality you have and her even telling you this shows how beta you are because she knows she can get away with that shit. But hey, analyze her actions and play games to keep an immature chick you've been with 2 months. You would never ever see me post that crap because I have respect for myself and know there are millions more out there. Give your advice as you definitely have a hold of your own relationship. What are MY dating problems? Found a thong in my hamper and mistakenly gave it back to the wrong girl who was pissed. Next girl found a condom wrapper on the floor when she had cleaned up for me the day before. Both are still cooking for me this week. Heck, after sex I read shit here and they tell me "get off the forum."lol

OP's gf is caught driving somewhere after he drops her off, acting shady, cuts back and then gets confrontational with him. If you have a better explanation for this behavior, give it. Sounds like another guy, or the relationship is falling apart.

Take no offense to that I'm about to say: you will live a life of misery. I say it with certainty. A guy like you won't ever be able to settle for a woman. You won't ever be able to trust a woman, because you've slept with so many that had boyfriends. By your own standards, you'll always find red flags in women, left and right, because you're incapable of filtering out the real red flags ones from the fakes ones. Your own skill set in seducing women, as great as it may be, has corrupted your mind.

On a parting note, I must ask you this: I was looking through my girlfriend's pictures that she took while on vacation and I noticed that she deliberately snapped one of two topless men on a boat. Is she cheating on me?

On the contrary, I have been in committed relationships and trust was never an issue. I don't get into a relationship because she's the hottest girl I'm dating and I need a relationship. I choose the girl who makes me happy and whose morals/values align with mine. I accept that I can't change anyone and don't play games to keep someone. If someone is sketchy in the dating phase, or loves male attention, I don't get into a relationship with them. They're not going to change and I'm not going to waste time "keeping my value high" for them to not cheat.
And no, I have never slept with any woman with a bf on purpose. You find out afterwards when she tells you. Recently I messed around (not sex) with a woman who after a week told me she was engaged. She was not in the relationship category anyway because I could tell she wasnt relationship material. I nexted her, even though she wanted to take me to dinner and have sex.
And I don't claim to have any great skillset. I just see the multitude of hot girls out there, walk around, smile and approach. This shit is not hard when you have everything else handled and don't make major mistakes. There are soooo many women out there. Some guys take one shot and try to make it work with the first hot girl who wants them. I prefer to screen and choose who ties me down.
And to your question, I don't know if that signals she's cheating. She could have just liked how they looked.
Edit: I just realized that you aren't the guy with the gf on holidays and I agreed with your advice.

My guess is that she's cheating or thinking of it. If she was going back in town to see one of her friends or something she would've told the OP, but she lied and tried to sneak out which means she's either going somewhere or seeing someone the OP wouldn't like and to top it all off she attacks you and calls you the creeper (classic girl cheating behavior, tries to deflect the real question and attacks the OP).