a great problem.

all over the relationships sites with juru's , most of problems are jealous girlfriends and jealousy shittests, but never seen one on a NON jealous girlfriend.

i have this girlfriend for aboat 5 month, i have great knowledge over GAME i pass all of her shit tests ,i never get jealous but once or twice in the course of the RS and even only comments not commands, i am completely dominant , she calls me everyday and i rarely call her, she always says she adores me,lucky to be with me and mostly i don't reply back,she goes crazy when i don't reply to her phone calls , but fuck it man, i want a girl who is afraid to lose me, a normal gf who gets even a little jealous. she has really deprived me of using competitive anxiety to increase ATTRACTION.

so here is the problem:

she used to get jealous at the begining of our RS, like asking me whom i am going out with, stop flirting with this girl...etc,
later at some point there is this sudden change; no matter what i do now she don't say shit , i tell her i am goin out she doesn't bother to ask with whom.. a LOT of girls flirt and kino me infornt of her , she don't say shit, i touch a girl , she don't say shit, girls flirting with me and trying to go out with me on facebook , she don't mention shit. she keeps liking other guys photos on facebook, but never likes mine, maybe if i fucked another girl infornt of her she would remain silent!!! ,
P.S: i don't OVERTLY try to make her jealous, other girls flirt with me , i try to look disinterested.
from my knowledge of game , i know competitive anxiety is a remedy to all your gf problems, i know you shouldn't overtly try to make her jealous.

To me there are 2 explanations:

1) she has surrendered to the fact that i am a fucking don juan, and girls really like me.( i saw once on her mobile , she mentioning to her friend that she feels like telling me that i am causing a lot of girls trouble by my likability, and once told me when she used to get jealous, that she knows the problem is not me but other girls liking me IS THE PROBLEM)


2) she is the kind of girl who searches relationship problems on the internet, i saw it once on a conversation on her phone with her friend talking aboat an article on how she should not be afraid to lose her bf. and i guess from my knowing to her that she read some post on jealousy and trying desperately to show she is confident enough but she is going overboard with it.



MY question is this:

1)shoud i ?

-go with the 2nd explanation, and take flirting with other girls to the extreme to break her confidence patterns and make it blatant obvious that I flirt with other girl and make it seem as if i might like that other girl , and concurrently withdraw attention from her , to give the effect of competition with another girl. the only problem with this if it backfires and it cultivates resentment instead of jealousy and competition on her side( but really i don't give a shit aboat that either i want her jealous ,i want her to feel competition.)

-go with the 2nd explanation and giveup to the fact that she thinks i am a fucking KHAZANOVA.?

- tell her overtly , since i am alpha enough, that she must stop trying to show confidence istead of jealousy , and she should try to be a normal gf, and stop reading those articles on the internet!!

2)how to deal with girls who have knowledge over game from the internet who consciously try to show they are not jealous, and they are not afraid to lose you to a competitor?





i hope i can really find an answer from the GREAT juru's around this forum.

looks like your interest in the girl is not genuine, you crave being desires. you get off on girls desiring you, and just this fact making you desireable for your girlfriend.

if this is not the case, re-write the post. you desire to make love to the girl your desire goes out to, you want to be with the girl that's suitable to your tastes and way of life. now you make it seem as if you want to be with a girl for the mere fact she gets envious towards 'the competition.'

if your girl is beautiful and attractive, bang her and dont worry about; ''oh my god she should be jealous when girls come to hit on me why isn't she??''

if she really doesnt care, test the limits you can go to. propose a trio or whatever the fuck your naughty mind can come up with in its most extatic bursts of depravity.

you're just like her. except you read articles on the internet on being a pua.

i swear to god i never read an article on the internet on ''how to be a pua.'' because it's all bullshit. yet that doesn't stop me from writing in this forum to deconstruct the bullshit that's the product of inertia minds who dream about exploiting secret loopholes in female psychology through 'patterns.'

it's not bullshit whatsoever, we all crave being desired , if my interest level in the girl isn't high enough, i wouldn't write on the forum in the first place.

The essence why i learned game in the first place, isn't expoiting secret loopholes in female psychology but because i genuinely liked a girl & i wanted to keep her but not by the means of social stigma that functions in accord with the female imperative. Game changed my life i turned from a pathetic beta chump into a rock solid alpha who has higher purpose in life.

The reason i am asking my question isn't because i crave to make her jealous for the pleasure of it, but because i know and all the juru's here know that, jealousy is the nuclear of all emotions , it's what we use get back an ex-girlfriend, to return your gf interest level and ATTRACTION when it has declined , it's a crucial tool in any relationship , and the one who controls the jealousy avalanches in the RS is the one who gained hand.

because a lot of people here would agree with me that a non jealous girlfriend is a red flag,I want her to tell me that I cannot talk to other girls. I am looking for a girl who gets jealous easily. Why? because women with high interest level do not want me talking to other girls. If she says she does not care that I talk to other girls then it's a red flag that she has low interest level in me.

So if she tells me that she doesn't want me talking to other girls or even looking at them then that's a sign to me that she wants me all to herself. She's interested in me enough that she wants me all to herself.

You are trying to fix something that's not broken. Jealousy is NOT required for a good relationship. If anything, jealousy tactics work to give freaks the emotional validation that they require to be happy in a relationship. Good girls, on the other hand, are happy in relationships when the people they date are happy.

You are dating a good girl. Using jealousy plot lines would be a step backwards in the relationship.

If you want a quick run down of "freaks, ho's, and good girls" theory, then click the link about screening at the bottom of my post.

-Wolf

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Trust me buddy, I've seen no-lifers do the same, they've no good reason to, but they've got no good reason to do anything else. It very much appears that you intensely crave the attention and desire of others to go out to you. If your higher goal in life was really that solid, it wouldn't make sense for you to be so obsessive about jealousy.
Confusing means and ends here. Learning game is not done to exploit (non-existant) secret loopholes in female psychology. No, people hope for such loopholes to exist and to do things with them, like magically bewitching some Über-hot girl.

You can't hide behind "a lot of people here think this and that . . ." it is as Wolf said, trying to fix something that isn't broken. Jealousy indeed is the par excellence strategy to wrap idiosyncratic and prone to hysteria women around your finger. Not to build a stable relationship.

Do you have the guts to experiment how you could profit from her apparent non-jealousy like I suggested.

[quote="Mr. Marville][/quote="SHARK789"]If your higher goal in life was really that solid, it wouldn't make sense for you to be so obsessive about jealousy[/quote]

it's not that i 'am obsessed with jealousy, it's aboat i have tool's &whether they are moral or not, they work with me , jealousy is one of them, and i am keen to know all the aspects of this tool how to handle it covertly ,how to utilize it's existance , and mostly how to utilize it's non existance and find an alternative.
i am not really craving her jealousy , it's just a tool that i want to utilize to enhance my performance.

i am not looking forward to wrap her around my finger , i am looking for decent jealousy not INSANE one , just so that when something goes wrong ,i should always remind her she is in a competitive environment, and she might lose you to a competitor, because what i learned from my past LTR'S is that sometimes when she massively fuck up , no contact is not enough tool to regain hand over your relationship , but covert jealousy must exist so that the no contact + competitive anxiety can work concurrently.
you have a point actually, and i really respect your opinion anyway. do you have any other ideas on how should i profit from her apparent non-jealousy but emotionally not sexually?

Thank you, I very much appreciate this compliment. Challenge accepted, let me think for a moment.

An advantage of her being non jealous is, well . . . making connections with other girls. These connections in the end could unlock opportunities such as girl on girl. You can watch naughty movies about other girls with her for extra excitement without her thinking you immediately desire those women. These, however, are sexual advantage. Let me think about an emotional advantage of non-jealousy.

You can befriend women in your career and use them to climb your way up the ladder without her interfering.

You can make friends with girls, show them around, and set up opportunities to let them meet your friends and colleagues. This can gain you some prestige and grattitude possibly.

You can talk to pretty girls and look at pretty girls without your girlfriend ever whining, bitching or moaning. This is an advantage in itself.

If I come up with more, I will let you know.

really solid post aboat screening man!

i do understand there is no point in making her jealous at this poind of the RS where it is going pretty well and her interest level is high enough, but here is the question:
how to utilize jealousy when the relationship faces a downhill & she fuck up ( or i fuck up and thus competitive anxiety is needed to reignite her interest level) ?
or no contact isn't enough to regain hand over the situation and need to be accompanied by competitive anxiety?
or worst when she overtly tries to make me jealous by flirting with other guys & offcourse i should reciprocate by making her jealous in return and not complaining?

also on solvemygirlproblems site i quote this:
much appreciated wolf man!!!

Okay, if you want tips on handling bad behavior, then read the OTHER link I posted at the bottom.** Everything else involves maintaining a solid frame. The frame: You are a guy that women find attractive.. because of this, you are more outcome independent than other guys. You don't put up with drama or disrespect because you have better things to do. You are a natural leader because you are a guy who gets what you want. You have a healthy social circle / life, you have attractive friends, and you flirt with other people all the time because flirting is fun. You don't obsess about what your girlfriend is thinking or doing (or text too much). You don't get jealous of other guys because you just know you're better than them. Etc.

All this stuff sub-communicates that you are a guy who has options. If you incorporate this frame into your personality, then girls will just subconsciously know that you are a guy who can get laid if he feels like it. It's all very subtle stuff.. you never really want to throw the jealousy thing in a girls face. It's actually a display of low value to be indiscreet with your other relations.


-Wolf


**Incidentally, a well executed soft next does work to build competitive anxiety because most women naturally assume your not talking to them because you're with somebody else.

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True Wolfman, but this still runs in the problem that the girls are too thickheaded to understand that flirting is fun, and respond in distant, offended, icy cold, whatever manner, or just fail at providing conversation input that leads to . . . well . . . more conversation. They just do not understand the art of flirting. They do not understand subtilities, ques, and are totally unreliable when it comes to actually calling, texting, etc. Their ignorance forces you to make the flirting so obvious that there is no way for them to either become offensive, or leave the table with loss of face.

Okay, you took one very small portion of my response and focused exclusively on that. It's not really about flirting, it's about becoming a desirable human being. Also, your post is just wrong. Girls are extremely good at picking up on subtlety's. Girls are biologically programmed to be good at it (for a variety of reasons). Furthermore, girls (on average) are way better at flirting than guys are.

All of this has absolutely nothing to do with how frequently a girl calls or texts back.

-Wolf

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Sorry to break it to you, but this is inaccurate. Going by biology, a man can fertilize more women at the same time, and thus a man also has natural seductive powers to make sure he can inseminate as many women as possible. Men also have a more accurate self-perception about their abilities and place in a group, whereas women rely on false modesty.

Girls are, generally, not good at flirting. They really don't pick up subtle ques. For instance, me at a bar the other day with my friend. I start talking to some chick while my friend, suffering from approach anxiety, lingered behind. I had a nice chat with her and one of her friends who came as well, spoke about movies, etc. "I saw you and decided to open up a little chat, considering that your friends left you all alone. Just curious, are you girls who just came into this place all part of one group?" Then at some point she said: "Your friend seems lonely there, as well." With other words, this could be understand as 1 bugger off and go to your friend, or 2 you are a bad friend, and maybe 3, bring him over. So another person could have taken this in an offensive way, if I was not so smart to interpret this as to ask him to come over.