So just to let the Pua's out there know I don't play one night stands often. I like to keep a few girls around that I play with. The magic number is 3 but its varies from time to time. So I went down to Baltimore to play with one of my girls for 4 days. Good story on how I got this one but thats for another post. So we been playing for about 5 months. She knows I have other girls an is ok with that. Shit I am cool when she plays with other guys and girls. Hell I stole her away from one of my past girls. Anyways we went out on Saturday an went to do see a improve show that one of her friends put together. Afterwords we went out with a few of the actors an their friends. So in a booth with me my girl the shows director an 2 smoking hot girls like a solid 7 an perfect 9 an some nachos. Great convo's but eventually the talk was on what I do. I stated not a dam thing. "I ride my motorcycle shoot my guns drink my whisky and fuck my girls." an from there explaining my story a bit. So the 9 bites a starts asking why what happened. Shes a therapist and an actor so she was dissecting me. I enjoyed the banter an she shared some wild stuff to the table. I got cornered on what love is an if I could ever love again. I let her know when she asked if I ever been married. Yeah I was an a good man for 10 years. But just an AFC. That love questions stumped me an I put together the best answer I could on the spot. I went in to IDK but to me now love is just chemical an that I don't think that I could ever love again it just hurts too much to lose it. Blah blah blah. I could tell when I started on how I play an then My girl told us about this girl she just dated last week but needs to end it cuz she did not like her. This is when I noticed that the 7 eyes got real big an was totally into my girl. I told her this on the ride home. She did not believe me. I was watching the 7 either checking her out due to jealousy from us or curious on her. I was lightly gaming the 7 befor but was only getting light friendly talk out of her. So later that night me an my girl we drinking liquers she brews. We had a great conversation on shit test and doing things just for the sake of doing things in the kitchen. A bit later relaxing on the couch. She gets all sad an teary eyed. She explained to me that she has deep feelings for me but believes that they are just an illusion. I was really good on this an I don't think it was a shit test but an true emotional moment. I think I did very well when she was unloading her feelings. I was a perfect listener an qualified her feelings an was supportive. Not more than a few months ago another special girl did the same thing an professed her love for me after about 6 months of our relationship. She too knew I played an let me know that she was unhappy with that but understood it was what I do. I also worked threw this mindfield gallantly. I was Strong and understanding with out wussing out. She had to move to Florida to teach at a university down south. They cum and they go. That's how I enjoy my relations now with girls. When I started a few years ago on the game there was a steady that also fell for me an it ended when I also tried to fall in love with her. Its was not pretty I sorta went back to AFC ways. We were together for over a year. When I had to pick up an move to NC. She decided to cut off the relationship an froze me out wich is ok. She also knew I saw other girls but she play the head in the sand I don't believe you card. Another girl while I was moving down also tossed out the love you card an I was leaving any ways to NC an so I was testing this theory. I said to her I love you too. I knew it would go 1 of 2 ways. Either it would end the relationship or bond it together to something more than just casual also after 6 months. That one ended after 2 weeks of saying the magic words. BTW I never say that to anyone, Unless I am ready to end the relationship. Its a great way to dump a girl. It just makes them dump you unless they are crazy. Yeah I've played needy just to back out of a relationship. Not anything I am proud of but until you try it you won't believe it works. Its great too cuz when you use the needy as a tool to sly out you get to see why guys get fucked over for being what their mothers told them how to be perfect gentlemen. Just ranting. Anyone else get this love stuff an how do you work with it when it comes up? Just curious. Do not get me wrong I love the affection and feel that when they do fall I am there to soften the blow. Its a good thing I am a good man. I let them have their feelings but do not change the person I am whom they fell for. It does not happen with them all but it does happen.

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Why guys and girls don't mesh.

"Chicks are crazy and guys are dumb." Chinopants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... a_Nno&NR=1

Why does saying "I Love You" back to a girl signal the end of the realtionship. I am not saying you are wrong, just looking for some insight.

I have been seeing this girl for about a month and last night, when we were laying there after a long night of great sex it seemed like she was fishing for me to say those words. I did not take the bait but if she had said them first I probably would have said "I love you too." That is what I have said the other times in my life. The women are always so happy to here it at the time but I have no idea how it changes things for them. Any insight would be appreciated?

I think it signifies the end of the chase. The games are over an she an vindicated in her efforts to win you over.

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Why guys and girls don't mesh.

"Chicks are crazy and guys are dumb." Chinopants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... a_Nno&NR=1

I'm the opposite. I always tell the girls I love them very soon into the relationship, usually when we have sex. For me it just heightens the experience. Love is such a silly thing anyways, so I have no problem throwing the word around.

Whether you never say it or are quick to say it and over use it, I don't think it really matters. Women will still get emotional about shit and become attached or eventually lose interest. The word games you play in the meantime are just part of the game.

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“Nothing is impossible, the word itself says 'I'm possible'!” ~Audrey Hepburn

I can definitely see how that would be bad. Almost akin to "Once they have that ring on their finger..."

I definitely don't want her to stop chasing me so I won't say it first. But if she says it first what the hell am I supposed to say....

Her: "I Love You"
Me: "Thank You" or "uhh, Okay?" or ...

What can I possibly say back other that "I love you too?"

when she says I love you. Call her out on it and have her explain what that means to her. Have her tell you why.

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Why guys and girls don't mesh.

"Chicks are crazy and guys are dumb." Chinopants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... a_Nno&NR=1

So if I do this I just can't see a woman explaing how and why she loves me without putting me on the spot with "Well, don't you love me?" or "Aren't you going to say it too?"

I am only speaking from AFC experience but if she explains why and pours her heart out to me and I don't say it back I would think that would be like a slap in the face and really hurt her which I assume would be bad?

no, not really I do it all the time. I allows them to have their feelings. I even say you're allowed to have your feelings. I also like to say I would think my actions and how we spend our time together said more than what needs to be said in words. Also it matters when she sez it. Is it after too many cocktails or after you just blew the doors off her in bed? or is it random or in a moment when its expected to be said.

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Why guys and girls don't mesh.

"Chicks are crazy and guys are dumb." Chinopants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... a_Nno&NR=1

Enter.

I would suspect it would be after I blew the doors off in bed. The only 2 times this girl has gotten all emotional on me were times when we had had a long night of sex. Both of these times I had given her an orgasm when I arrived and then stopped without me orgasming and gotten out of bed to do other things. Then an hour or two later after I finally give into her pouting and begging for more and that's when she really goes wild on me.

These have been the times where her brain has been all over the place with different emotions from 1 minute to the next. The last time she was all "don't you think I'm a lovable Girl?" and listing all of her good qualities. Instead of taking her bait by saying "yes" or "I love you" I responded with "well I think I'm a pretty lovable guy myself." Then silence and a couple minutes later she was trying to talk me out of going with her to a party for one of her friends that we had planned on attending together. I figured I would just get out of there while she was in this vulnerable state. First thing the next morning I texted her like none of it had happened and got her right back into the sexual frame so she wouldn't spend any more time on the emotional stuff.

I don't really want to stop having this kind of sex because I really love teasing the hell out of her. Girls hate it when they don't think they can satisfy you so they try really really hard which always makes for great sex. I used to do this thing where the 1st time I would sleep with a girl I wouldn't orgasm. Then from the moment I saw them again there would be this sexual tension between us and they would bring their A game to our second time which I would naturally orgasm that time.

I guess next time I have this kind of sex with this girl I will just try to change the frame as soon as the sex is over and not let her emotions take over.

But what is community rule about gifts, flowers?

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mack jhon

the only gift I give is my time and my dick.

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Why guys and girls don't mesh.

"Chicks are crazy and guys are dumb." Chinopants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... a_Nno&NR=1