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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:28 am 
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She promised me she would change, but it got worse. She talked with a guy about having a supposed threesome, and I found out, and she said she didnt even had the intention of doing so! And promised to change, and actually changed her behavior a little, but she still talked to the guy.. So today while we were at my house the guy messages her again, and she replies with me there.. All good, I feel happy cause she trusts me to see the messages.
Then when I dropped her off at her house, her facebook was open in my safari and she was talking with this guy, he asked again about the threesome, and she somehow tried to change the subject I give her that, but then he said that only the two of them, and she kept trying to change the subject, until he asked more directly and she said yes.. A deep yes, she didnt told him a day but she said it would be soon. Then soon after, and she still dares say that she doesnt know what she did for me to act like this... She doesnt know I saw her fb conversation, and I mean doesnt she feel even a tiny bit of guilt? Or maybe she suspects ... Idk what to do now... She hasnt cheated on me yet, but how can I trust her if she talks to guys like that?


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Dump that bitch the minute you read this!

Pure disrespect and if you accept this or let it slide you lose a lot of respect for yourself and your pride, your a man bro not a dog! Girls like this do not deserve your time and effords, saying you will change is easy but actually doing so is very hard that is why you NEVER believe what a girl says, look at what she does!!!!

At the beginning of your relationship you should have set boundaries and one of many mens boundaries is respect, she crossed this line in a big way and you should dump her for it, find yourself a good girl who is respectful towards you.

I know you will not take my advice as you "love" her or think it's not even that big of a deal but i know the type! You will open a new thread very soon with the word "Ex" in it if you keep this one.

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dump her fast and dump her now, if you dont i promise she will cheat on you which she probably has already, grow a set of balls and dump her.

The girl i'm with now is the girl i hope to one day marry but i gaurantee if i see one message, just one like she ones you have been seeing then i would dump her in about five seconds


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:56 am 
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I dont call this a relationship at all

You should of left her way back but

you should honestly leave her now

Soncheese x


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well, there are a few things to consider here,

do you care about her alot?

-if so, you should dump her and move on, don't include her in your life until you have a new girl that has taken her spot, don't be harsh or rude to her, try to leave on good terms, ''it just isn't working out because you are not ready to be in a relationship right now and you just need some space'' she will try to convince you otherwise, just stay firm and cut her out for a bit, but let her know you like her and it's not her it you blah blah blah etc.

-if not, just keep seeing her, who cares if she sleeps with other guys, just go sleep with other girls and play the same game she is playing, when you meet a girl you like more and want a monogamous relationship with, just dump her and move on, go girl style on her ass and don't drop her till you find the new one, only do this if you seriously don't care, or you are in for some wicked emotional fallout, seriously don't lie to yourself if you care she must be cut from your life like a cancer, not doing so will seriously fuck you up inside and it could be a long time before you recover from allowing yourself to be treated poorly by someone you care about, have respect for yourself

all in all, you have to consider the respect you are being shown, you can't force anyone to change (nor is this likely to ever happen for most people as old habits die hard) or do anything as we all have free will, but everyone has their own personal boundries, you should uphold your boundries or you will get walked all over and the person doing the walking will lose more and more respect for you gradually until you mean nothing to them and have been de-valued in their eyes completely, you have already clearly expressed that this sort of thing makes you feel uncomfortable, she aknowledged your concern and reckognized your boundry and continues to test how far she can take this without consideration for you

this really is a good sign that this relationship is not going to work as she does not have the maturity yet to be in a relationship, how would she like it if you had a girl that was a ''friend'' who kept asking you over facebook if she could suck your dick, and you kept saying yes, but showing your girlfriend so she knew it was ''ok''

that shit would never fly in a million years, it would most likely take even far less to spark jealousy in her, don't be a wuss, stand up for yourself, even if you care about her the worst thing you could do for yourself is stay with her when you are attached and she is not


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Hi guys, thanks for your replies..
I was actually thinking about dumping her, because of this... until I told her what had happened... which she was very surprised... well, it turns out her ex boyfriend hacked her account, and did all that ...
He even send her an email.. telling her "lets see how you and your boyfriend deal with the troubles Im about to cause you" ..
IM thinking the ex doesnt know I was seeing the messages, and that I told her, so most likely, he will send me the conversation in some way, but we both already know the truth.
Im glad I didn't jumped into conclusions, because she truly has changed for me, and says she doesnt want to lose me, she is sad because we were so good, till' this happened.
At least we both know what happened now.. now we're trying to find a way to recover her FB ... the ex said that he would "return it to her" in a while ...
Im sure one of these days Im going to get a message with the conversation ...


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Hi guys, thanks for your replies..
I was actually thinking about dumping her, because of this... until I told her what had happened... which she was very surprised... well, it turns out her ex boyfriend hacked her account, and did all that ...
He even send her an email.. telling her "lets see how you and your boyfriend deal with the troubles Im about to cause you" ..
IM thinking the ex doesnt know I was seeing the messages, and that I told her, so most likely, he will send me the conversation in some way, but we both already know the truth.
Im glad I didn't jumped into conclusions, because she truly has changed for me, and says she doesnt want to lose me, she is sad because we were so good, till' this happened.
At least we both know what happened now.. now we're trying to find a way to recover her FB ... the ex said that he would "return it to her" in a while ...
Im sure one of these days Im going to get a message with the conversation ...
to be honest sounds like a giant load of bullshit to me, this seems sketchy as fuck, this girl is fishy

I mean there is nothing to really worry about (in the sense that, what does it really matter if some person sleeps with another person), but to buy this sort of horse shit 100% seems silly, it is about your own sense of self respect, if she is cheating with this guy, I'm sure he has no problem helping her to cover her own tracks if she is putting out for him (especially for threesomes)

it, just seems odd that now all of a sudden you corner her that she has been hacked and that's what happened, really?, how was her facebook open in the first place?, what about all the text conversations from before, did he hack those too? she just agreed to a threesome but had no intention to follow through, how ever you had it in writing, do you think it seemed that way to the other guy on the other end?, was that also hacked?

don't allow yourself to become blinded by neediness, you don't need this girl and she is doing some seriously weird and sketchy shit, I wouldn't buy into it for a second, she is up to something if she wasn't this guy simply wouldn't be in her phone, wouldn't be on her facebook, and this wouldn't have ever began to happen in the first place, she is showing clear dis-respect and now trying to cover shit up and take the responsibility off herself for her own actions

don't be a little pussy, man up and have respect for yourself, you can meet other girls, rather then being the cuckold for some chick that doesn't respect or care about you that will eventually end the relationship on her own terms when she sees no value in you anyways

committing to some girl and throwing away your chance at fun and love with other girls, when she does not return the investment will only leave you filled with emotional stress and regrett, stand up for yourself and emplore some god damn personal boundries, if you don't it might hit you hard when you get a breakup and find out some girl you cared about sucked a million dicks behind your back only to come home and make out with you (not that this is happening but it is a terrible picture to paint that demonstrates the worst of possibilities in hopes you can wake up)

you are you, and most likely you will come to some sort of rationalization that this is all sunshine and roses so you can just stay with her, but seriously, if you care about this girl, you are in for a shitty ending to this love story if you don't cut her and move on

if you don't care about her, then this is a fine ideal situation, she is busy with guys and you can focus on other girls and your life, and have her as pillar to support you when shit is not going your way, she could be your fall back girl for when the stables are empty, but for this to actually work, you must give 0 fucks, 0 neediness, 0 caring about her, she is your sidekick, your sex partner, not the love of your life, or the thing that holds you and your life together, she has to hold little to no importance to you, she just sticks around because you are important to her

^ if this is not the case, then you are investing, there is nothing wrong with that, unless the other person is not reciprocating, this can lead you into an abusive self destructive relationship, they are hard to get out of when you are dependant on the person, because the more they dis-respect you and you let it slide, the more you devalue yourself in their eyes as well as your own, it gets to the point where you have little to no self esteem and let your partner get away with anything just so you can keep them (because you don't think you are good enough to do better), you see this alot with girls, they date the ''asshole'', maybe he starts off cool, then slowly over time starts becomming more rude, more open, more comfortable, more abusive, eventually over time he just errodes her self esteem, not that she thinks he is all that great, she will probably complain about him in fact, but she has a strong connection and rapport with him, and they have already invested into having sex with each other, so she is past the point of no return, she gave him her trust and now it is easier for her to stay, easier to just try to change her boyfriend that is abusive then find a new one that isn't, right?, well people don't usually change, habits are extremely hard to break, you ever see how most people that are overweight and want to change always become ripped because it is just easy for them to change their eating habits and physical activities?, me neither, you ever take notice of the millions of success stories from pua of all the guys that started going out 7 days a week pulling ass left right and centre cause they all changed up their habits, me neither, most of guys doing this won't even complete more then 100 approaches (you could get 100 done in 2 days if you lived in a city and had all day), people don't like change, it is uncomfortable, it requires discipline and effort, people don't like dis-comfort and effort, for her to leave her abusive boyfriend, that would mean making herself vunerable again and that would be uncomfortable for her as it is not a part of the regular life routine, the more she gets abused and the longer she stays, the less she thinks of herself and all of a sudden the asshole becomes the only source of security she has in this life, because she doesn't deserve happiness, and when she gets that feeling of happiness from other guys, she will feel it is fake and ingenuine, they are just trying to get something from her obviously because if her boyfriend treats her so poorly, then obviously she can't possibly be worthy of being treated well, no guy could really like her, at least her boyfriend is honest about her being worthless, right?

don't fall into this trap, this seems like some b~s drama, let me guess this girl is younger then 24

anyways, consider this, I've fucked a few girls that had boyfriends, and I've been cheated on by 3 seperate girls (one sort of doesn't count as cheating cause we weren't offically dating yet, but we were having sex and she was trying to boyfriend me, then blew it), and this shit seems extremely familiar too when the girl in brackets cheated on me with a dude I work with, she fucking kissed him in front of me while he was comming to work and I was leaving and then blatently lied to my face about it and to his face about seeing me, according to her she didn't like him like that, they were just friends, she said he was cute but found him too ''awkward'', then assured me I was hotter and she wants me to be her boyfriend, she let me know that she thought he liked her, but the thing is we worked together and were friends (not close, but at least work buddies) he at first told me they only made out, then eventually came clean and told me they had sex, and then I came clean and told him what I had done with her and also showed him my text log with her because he was telling me about how she was denying everything, we both got irritated, I stopped seeing her, she started dating this guy (he hadn't had a girlfriend in a year or two and gave her a second chance), and she still was texting me behind his back trying to hang out, and the worst part was she was trying to tell me that they were not dating, and they obviously were, and the whole time he claimed she maintained that only one time I came onto her and she rejected me, and she only likes me as a friend, and thinks I like her but she doesn't like me like that, that's a pretty good story for some girl that puts out several times over the coarse of a month and basically escalates to it herself and calls you everyday with annoying text messages about nothing, but I have absolutely no respect for that sort of shit when the person is someone I know and have a friendship with, that relationship ended and guess how?, my buddy got cheated on and caught her red handed, and it wasn't from me, because that girl is broken goods, unless you are not looking for a monogomous commitment, and you don't fix broken a broken person, you find a person who isn't broken and look hard at them before you make the buy so you know for sure they are not broken

but take the above ^ with a grain of salt, at this point, the whole idea and notion of caring about someone sleeping with someone else is silly, it is not that they are sleeping with someone else, it is the simple fact that they are trying to manipulate you and being dis-honest, it is completely dis-respectful, and shows what sort of character lurks underneath the surface, as long as you are good of character and offer trust understanding and commitment, you should expect nothing less and uphold your standards simply on the principle of respect for yourself, but if you don't consider this issue one of dis-respect, but rather mutual freedom, then really you have no issues here, only abundance


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:03 am 
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Hi guys, thanks for your replies..
I was actually thinking about dumping her, because of this... until I told her what had happened... which she was very surprised... well, it turns out her ex boyfriend hacked her account, and did all that ...
He even send her an email.. telling her "lets see how you and your boyfriend deal with the troubles Im about to cause you" ..
IM thinking the ex doesnt know I was seeing the messages, and that I told her, so most likely, he will send me the conversation in some way, but we both already know the truth.
Im glad I didn't jumped into conclusions, because she truly has changed for me, and says she doesnt want to lose me, she is sad because we were so good, till' this happened.
At least we both know what happened now.. now we're trying to find a way to recover her FB ... the ex said that he would "return it to her" in a while ...
Im sure one of these days Im going to get a message with the conversation ...
haha lol if you honestly believe that :lol:

then i wish you all the best with your relationship

Soncheese x


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i have to agree with 2 above posters, seems very fishy and hard to believe! just doesn't add up.

Don't be naive bro and look at it from a logic point of view, not what you want to believe.

Dump her ass and get yourself a good girl. No regrets and don't look back. Her loss!

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She's full of shit. I can't believe you really believe her...


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if you believe that then i've got a bridge i'd like to sell you


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Uhm... its not like she "told me" she got hacked.. I SAW it.. I saw the email from her ex, I was even chatting with her while she was at my side, pretending to be her.


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Uhm... its not like she "told me" she got hacked.. I SAW it.. I saw the email from her ex, I was even chatting with her while she was at my side, pretending to be her.
What about the whole i will change thing she told you about though? I am really confused right now about what is going on, please explain it one more time in logic. He hacked her Fb account and talked about a threesome..

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a leopard cannot change its spots. you have to break up with her. if you want her to change, she ll only get sneakier, and start doing thing behind your back.

go and find someone else.


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It is probably too late for the two of you. By now the dynamics of your relationship are pretty much stable. She is a lying cheating bitch. And you are the one who puts up with it and buys her shit.

I am in a much earlier stage in a non-exclusive relationship with a girl like your girlfriend. I was making the mistake of falling for her. Then I listened to my guts and discovered she was a lying cheating bitch.

How I am handling this. Seeing other girls. Letting her know. Putting it right in front of her face. Hard and direct. Acting cool and uninterested when she tells me about seeing other guys. It's not my problem. I don't give a fuck. As long as I get my share, I am cool.
She is growing more and more jealous by the hour. Once the power roles are fully shifted, and she is constantly suffering and longing for me, and she is so involved in this that she can't stop seeing me no matter how many other girls I fuck, then I might get some truth and maybe some commitment from her. That day I will decide if I really still want this girl.

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