Hi,

There is this girl in my class wich I liked a lot at first. So I gamed her and now I kind of have feelings for her. She is perfect to me, beautifull, smart... I can't imagine anyone else who'd satisfie me more. Problem is; She has been together with a guy for 2 years now. And that guy is the best friend of my brother, not that it really matters but that means I can't set them up or such. My brother would kill me. She seems very loyal and isn't planning on cheating I guess. I'm very close with her tho, she talks about all her problems. She always gives me compliments, such as ' a girl who can be together with you schould be the happiest girl of the world '. She also calls me her best friend, but I don't feel like I'm friendzoned. We keep it kinda flirty. I see her 5 times a week and that makes it hard to forget her, so that's not really an option. I don't know what to do anymore, it's the first time I actually want a girl for long term purpose and I can't seem to get her.

Would appreciate some advice, sorry for my English it's not my first language

Btw; Now I don't really have a plan running so I just stay around. Tried to forget about her but since I see her so much it didn't work out, so I stay close with her. She's only 17 and her boyfriend isn't very romantic or such at all. So I assume the relantionship can end anytime, but it could also last sad enough... The boyfriend she has now is always busy with his sport/school life. He isn't too good looking, just average and he's lazy. For valentine or her birthday he wouldn't do anything except giving a cheap ass present. I'd be 1000x better for her then him but oh wel... This shit makes me sad.

That sweet but now seriously.

She is with him not with you. She has to be the one to do that choice.

If were you, I would keep things flirty, wouldnt spend much time with her. Busy for her.

Be interesting and cocky funny mode

And would go and flirt massively with ohter girls.

Perhaps she will see something more in you and would end with her B/F.

Dont trash talk her B/F, even better dont talk about him.

At this point there isnt much you can do SHE IS DATING.

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Oh! You've gotta be kidding me!

You're right man, thanks for making things clear.
I'll just answer her messages and flirt a little, but spend more attention to other girls. Hard tho cause she seems perfect to me, but I'll have to be realistic and I can't keep spending time on something that'll never work out.

Tho this problem; it's her birthday wednesday. I think she expects me to buy her a present or something because we are so close. She sees me as her very best friend and such, so what do I have to do? Actually give her something or just do nothing at all? She also invites me for a lot of stuff like going down town, go ride horses, watch a movie... schould I ignore these invites or not?

Thanks I appreciate all help

I think you are trying to fight a losing game here.

Find 2 more girls who are intrested in you, and vica versa. See if you still like her that much, and she's worth the effort.

Do this to classify it in your head.

Sad but true I guess. Allright I've already set my mind on another girl who I recently met and I'll game her. Thanks for the help, doing my best on this case ;p

You are friendzoned.

Nope I'm not, you clearly haven't managed to read/understand it all.
As I said I can feel she's into me.

she talks about all her problems

You don't do this with somebody you consider a lover. But you do this with somebody you consider a very good friend. Trust me on this.

This is not a rule. Trust me on this.

I have girls who would divulge her life, tell me all there problems would consider me a "friend" or would call me friend, but in the end they would drop her clothes in front of me and jump.

True Story.

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Oh! You've gotta be kidding me!

I was speaking in combination with the other factors ;

- Has a bf.
- Is loyal
....

Shoot, most girls will tell their problems to anybody who'll listen. Here's a very thorough explanation as to why that is (it's an interesting / excellent read): http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php? ... #post16161

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Bad Behavior: drama-free-relationships-3-the-soft-next-vt125554.html

Well I guess this topic didn't helpt me out a lot :p
I gave her champagne for her birthday today, and she tought it was really nice. When I was gone she immediately sent me a message ' that was really sweet of you '. I don't know what to think, she texts me a lot and says a lot of kind things but on the other hand I don't think she'd leave her boyfriend. And yes I know I schould try to get her out of my mind but it's hard when she's in the same class and she always texts me...

She always texts you because you give her alot of attention
=> it is just mutual interaction.
Lower your side and her texting and attention giveback will get lower too (after a while perhaps).

Quit being a hater you just wish it was you fucking her.

Do yourself a favor stop mentally masturbating to this girl and look for other women because you are deep deep deep into the friendzone with this one

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