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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:03 am 
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I got the idea for this post after reading Wolfwood’s thread on soft nexting to handle drama in relationships – an idea I wholly support. I noticed that right after, people were immediately pointing out the issue of “communicating” with your girlfriend, and I thought to myself, what does that really mean? Most people on this site would agree that the majority of relationship advice being circulated in the mainstream is highly feminized, to the point of blurring the line between what is “good” and “bad” in a relationship, and upholding the feminine imperative. To illustrate:

Wolfwood proposes that you should cut off contact with your girlfriend if she indulges in the female tendency to baffle you with bullshit pulled out of thin air.

Many people instinctively think – well isn’t it better to talk things through? Isn’t it better to communicate with your girlfriend?

No – it is not.

This is not to say that you shouldn’t resolve important issues with your girlfriend, only that the idea “you need to communicate with your girlfriend” is NOT interpreted the way it’s supposed to be. Like chivalry, the concept gets perverted when communicated to AFCs.

Case in point:

You go no-contact with her for 3 days after said shit test or whatever the fuck she pulls.

Are you supposed to talk things through? No. If you OVERTLY communicate to her, “hey, we need to talk, I’ve been ignoring you because of XYZ,” you become a sulking beta. AFC. Game over.

If she is far too promiscuous and constantly seeks attention from other guys.

Are you supposed to talk things through?

No, simple math. There is no such thing as a soul-mate. If there are 10,000 girls out there who can fit your template, is it better to try and fix a damaged relationship or seek out a girl who ISN’T promiscuous. This is an aspect of game I think gets overlooked. The purpose of game is to CUT YOUR LOSSES, NOT MAXIMIZE VICTORIES.

Some people might argue, “isn’t it better to try and fight for a good relationship?” Well, think about it.

The danger of NEXTING a girl who IS a good fit for you, because you prematurely ejected from the relationship, is NOTHING compared to the danger of STAYING IN A BAD RELATIONSHIP because you did NOT next her soon enough. You fuck up and ruin a good relationship – another one will come by. You fuck up and marry the wrong girl – you’re done. This is why they always say having an ABUNDANCE MENTALITY is crucial to having a healthy relationship, and avoiding UNHEALTHY ones.


Wolfwood responded to the argument by saying having discussions are good as long as they’re not fights. I would go a step further and say, even discussions CAN be cut out of the question. Have you ever tried to logically discuss something with a girl? Then tell me, does it work? You soft neg consistently. If she changes, she changes. If she doesn’t, next.

As for communicating with your girlfriend, that’s a tricky word. You don’t try and express something OVERTLY to them, women are averse to anything of that sort.

For instance: say you want to build competitive anxiety.

You do NOT have a discussion about it. You do NOT tell her

“Hey babe, I think our relationship lacks sexual tension and it’s something we need to work on.”

Instead, you go to the gym, work on yourself, build some social proof, and perhaps talk to a few girls just to let her know you CAN get someone else, your life does not revolve around her. She begins to wonder…

“Why does he work out so hard?”

“He’s pretty popular now… other girls probably like him”

“Is that girl trying to steal my man?”

A girl’s imagination is your greatest asset in your relationship. Don’t squander it by trying to discuss everything and putting your cards on the table.

To allay any misunderstanding, I am NOT suggesting that you shouldn't ever talk to your girlfriend. Rather, that you should reevaluate the idea of discussing or communicating with her. And truly ask for yourself: is this something that must be discussed, or am I just that as an excuse to whine about my insecurities?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:31 am 
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Excellent post, well written!

I once had this GF, and 2 years into the relationship I appried for this job that was a dreamjob for me at that time. But it was mostly nighshift. I really wanted it but she told me "I hope you not succeed" (she just wanted to spend more time with me). I never addressed this issue, I just went for a job and got it. We stayed together for 2 more years.

But how do you get your GF to support you? I don't see how this one can be done without direct communication. This came up so many times but I always just igored it.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:21 pm 
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some things need communication some don't.

if there's a problem I prefer the escalation ladder,
start with negative reinforcement
if it doesn't work talk about it (if it falls under things that need communication)

if that doesn't work or it is one of the problems you can't solve verbally, then freeze out. as wolf said in his thread.

summary :

non-verbal cues >> communication >> freeze out.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:46 am 
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I very rarely ever comment in threads where Hakuna has commented first. The reason is that I usually don't have anything to add. He gives great advice. I think the only real difference in the way we approach relationships is that he uses negs and I don't. *shrug* My guess is that it works for him, but it's just not my style. I'm okay with that.

Hakuna makes solid points and, once again, i don't really have much to add.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:05 am 
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This is really helpful.

I've fallen into the 'sulking beta' trap before.

Are you saying that we should be a little more mysterious perhaps?
Not show our cards so openly?

Allow her to wonder about us, rather than be and open book for her to read?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:26 pm 
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I think being too mysterious can be dangerous.

If you keep your girlfriend in the dark, she will leave one day. Then again, if you're 110% honest with her, you will bore the piss out of her. That's the balance you have to find.

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