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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:40 am 
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Hi

I've been dating this 27yo HB9 for 1,5 month now. She is this kinda "traditional girl" and she wants a man with rock solid personality and huge balls. She is available for me every time, never flakes, reserves her whole weekends for me, we walk hand-in-hand on the street, she has intorudeced me to her firends, she comes up with great date ideas, and sex is amazingly great.

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1) We are not a couple officially. I don't thinks she will ever bring this up, so I will have to do this sooner or later. She was kinda hinting at it the other day, telling me that "her friends would be happy if we were a couple." I really don't wanna force her to commit... What do you guys suggest?

2) And this one really bothers me. She never calls me. Never texts me out of the blue. If I got hit by a car today, I wonder if she would ever find out... I once froze her out for 9 days and she also didn't call me. When I finally did call, she said she missed me a lot and she already had plans with me. WTF is this? This really puts her in control waaay too much.
Even if I go out clubbing, she doesn't get stressed, doesn't bother to call me or text me. Not even the next day. You can say that I have a shitty inner game, but what she does is not gonna keep me happy on the long run. Something has to be done about it. This very often also stops me from calling her or texting her, because I dont wanna seem clingy. I just want her to care about me more and call me more often.

3) BONUS. Last time, on Wednesday I was running some routines on her and I won the opportunity to ask her any question I want and she would give an absoulte honest answer. She got soo excited about it at the end that she said I could even ask more. I told her I have so many questions that it'd take me some days to sort out the best one. Anyway, what should I ask, now that I have this opportunity?


On Saturday (in 12 hours) she's taking me to some circus show, than I have a restaurant booked as a surprise she doesn't know about for that night. On Sunday HB9 and I are going out with my friends, so I'll introduce her to them (for the first time).

I'm really looking to hear your honest thoughts on this.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:25 am 
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It's simple just ask her why she never calls you
its going to continue to be a problem if you never bring it up. Why are so scared of her?

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if you truly wanna hear my thoughts here it is

1. ive been following your threads and this must be the russian hb...i bet you love that shes traditional and how different her personality is compared to american girls. what can i say my culture rocks! enough about me loll yes russians are old fashion when it comes to dating which means you will have to ask her out but if i were you id wait for more hints!

2. my thoughts? this...
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I just want her to care about me more and call me more often.
is fucked up because its really needy, i think you should approach more women at this point cause it sounds like youre slippin into neediness, you know your own feelings better than i do but its just what i think of this.

i actually dated a girl that never initiated text or call, it didnt give her control, i initiated all texting but i did it alpha style it wasnt a problem and honestly i liked it

3. it sounds like she wants to open up to you ask her everything you wanna kno


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:18 pm 
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It's simple just ask her why she never calls you
i just really don't wanna come across as a needy / cliny afc. yet, i don't wanna train her to be like this forever, and i would be happy if she called the day after i was out at least. or just randomly call to ask if i'm still alive. i used to have a gf who asked me to call her more often... and i many times i called her, i felt that it was a just calling because it was expected / compulsory.
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this must be the russian hb. yes russians are old fashion when it comes to dating which means you will have to ask her out but if i were you id wait for more hints
yes, it's her. we spent the whole weekend togheter and she wanted to stay over for sunday night also. i just got another hint yesterday: she asked me if i was seeing anyone esle. i said i didn't. she also said she did not. she invited me to some party with her friends again for next friday, that's a very good sign. she keeps telling me that she's getting addicted to me and likes me a lot. and she texted me today out of the blue, referring to how great the weekend was (it was really crazy, i must agree with her).

but on the other hand she has this ex who she was with for 5 years. they were on-and-off for 10 months than HB9 dumped that guy for good just 3-4 months ago. and this HB9 still has a lot of pictures with her ex on her facebook! about 10 out of total 200. this is such a huge turnoff for me....

what i noticed is that she just loves when i say no to her! and when i'm in control. anyway i was thinking of just telling, her that "look, HB9 you are my girlfriend from now on". you guys thinks it's a good idea? when and how should i have this "relataionship talk"? is this gonna make her delete facebook pics?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:59 pm 
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So the other day she told me that her friends would be really happy if we were a couple. Now she's asking me if I'm seeing anyone else. For this Friday she invided me to a concert, and HER colleagues' costume party (Friday also), and to hang out with some mutual friends (Saturday). That's a lot of hints I think.

We've been seeing each other for 1,5 month now.

How should I bring up this relationship "talk"? Should I wait any longer?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:29 pm 
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No relationship talk, never ever bring up the topic of exclusivity with a girl unless she does so first.

Never judge a girl by her words, only by her actions. So if she SAYS she misses you but never calls, she has low interest. You cannot dismiss the possibility that she might be seeing someone else, even if more of her interest is on you.

You should be seeing other girls while dating her. A man with options sends off a different vibe to women. The reason why she never calls or tries to escalate is because there is no SECKSUAL TENSION in your relationship. The ONLY REASON why people initiate relationships is so they can have someone all to themselves. A relationship is nothing more than an official statement of exclusivity. So if she thinks she has your balls WITHOUT establishing a relationship, there is no other challenge for her.

You should be gaming other girls or at least getting numbers to remind yourself that you have other options and squash that needy vibe, be less available and less needy, and work on your social proof.

If she asks about another girl in your past or something, don't be quick to say "No!, there's no one but you!" respond instead with something like "It's complicated" or "Ehh i duno... I'd rather not talk about it."

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:05 pm 
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Just saw this.
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So the other day she told me that her friends would be really happy if we were a couple.
Shit test.
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Now she's asking me if I'm seeing anyone else.
Shit test.
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For this Friday she invided me to a concert, and HER colleagues' costume party (Friday also), and to hang out with some mutual friends (Saturday). That's a lot of hints I think.
THe girl is obviously into you. A couple of weeks ago she didn't initiate anything, now she's making plans for the weekend. You've played your hand very well. It's yours to lose.
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How should I bring up this relationship "talk"? Should I wait any longer?
You shouldn't. As long as you keep fucking her the way you're fucking her, there's no reason for her to look for another cock besides yours. If she does, then you don't want to be with this woman, even if you two are not exclusive. See my point?

Besides, you two are going out Friday and Saturday almost every weekend. When does she have time to get banged by other dudes? She isn't.

I would not bring up the relationship conversation. That would be playing into her frame. I know she's traditional, and you'll probably end up bringing it up, but wait a little longer. Unless you feel it's time.

I'll be honest, I was the one who brought up the exclusive conversation with my gf... TWICE! First time she said she wasn't ready. Second time I didn't get a clear response from her. But I'm 100% in control in my relationship. I also fuck her so good that I know there's no way in hell she's gonna want to be fucked by anyone else.

Regarding the other issue... you need to talk to her about things. You two are basically in a relationship even though you haven't talked about it. People talk in relationships. It's healthy. You won't come across as needy or clingy or AFC. You will come across as a mature individual who likes to tackle problems straight on.

Finally, forget about her FB. Don't even check her account. Her having pics of her ex is no biggie. Don't be jealous, and don't mention anything to her. That WILL come across as needy/clingy/AFC.

So keep it up, bro. You are in the driver's seat. Give her an epic fuck on Friday. Get drunk and tell her that her pussy belongs to you. Lick her asshole. Fuck her up the ass and tell her that her asshole belongs to you. That will have a big impact, trust me.


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what my biggest problem has been (her never initiating contact), seems to be more or less solved. so HB9 communication is boosted up... thanks guys :) she text messaged me on sunday (sent me kisses). now she wrote me out of the blue today also.

the parties she invited me to over the weekend were great. i met this orbiter guy (kinda frined) of her also. HB9 later said that this guy told her that he is no match for me. cool :) on friday she accused me of checking her hot friend and other girls out. it's a very good sign. first i played it off, but than she kept going so i told her something like "i did not check any girl out. and you don't question my word." than i became a bit cold. this worked.

Richard Pryor, she was on her period but i fucked her hard anyway.. 3 squirting orgasms in a row while on period is nasty enough :) than on saturday she wanted to sleep with my cum rubbed into her skin.
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No relationship talk, never ever bring up the topic of exclusivity with a girl unless she does so first.
i'm sure she s not going to do that. she is a traditional russian girl, from a small town, she expects her man to lead.

so i think i wanna come up with the idea of a relationship to her. but how do i do when i feel it's time? please give me some advice.

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dude.

lay in bed with her and say that you are bonding really close, and just SAY, wanna be my girlfriend? Yes Im asking you out!

or say you are getting really close and bonding well and ask her if she wants to make it exclusive, then ask her out in like a couple of weeks time!

Just fucking do it man! you like her, she likes you, if she is seeing other guys then she will say no maybe, and in that case your better off without her because she lies.

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and dude, girls who are not committed with someone don't just text out of the blue. I havn't figured it out yet, but i speak to my girl friends and they say they always wait for the guy to text first.

It's like when your in a club. Men have Aproach anxiety, and won't go up to a woman.

unless shes a whore the woman wont go up to the man, the woman wants the guy to sweep her off her feet.

Anyway, your seeing each other. Be the man. And like someone said above^^ text her in an alpha way

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:57 am 
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no relationship talk, dont ask her out yet. i know shes traditional and itd be your bit to play out...but maybe shes not so traditional...maybe shes been americanized which means asking her out would be a weakness and itd take a toll on your alpha frame.
its been only like 2 month since youve met too maybe youre taking it too fast, hell i couldnt even get to know a person very well over 2 months of partying, just wait for that intimate relationship frame to solidify(give it more time) first if anything.


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