Ok, I would just like to show the PUA community here this. How a girl really convinced me. I don't know why I messaged this guy, but now i'm glad I did. You might find it interesting how I dealt with the Matter. Does this just make me a little bitch, or, i dunno. take a look.


ME
between us, the first time she goes out without me and she cheats on me. you did me a favour tbh mate, better off without her

about an hour agoJames “The guy”
And were talking about?

about an hour agoME
Polly *******

about an hour agoJames “The guy”
Yeah well I can't say much other than I'm sorry for you mate. She seems like a nice girl but not looking for a relationship? All I know is what happened between me and her!

about an hour agoME
I'm actually quite cool about it tbh, iv been with girls who have boyfriends before, iv kinda been expecting it. Did think maybe she was different, but it didn't really come to much of a surprise for me. Just out of interest tho and between us, what actually happened? Can you please at least tell me that. cheers

about an hour agoJames “The guy”
I'm afraid it's not my place to get involved between you 2! What happened was between me and her. If she chooses to tell you then that is her choice! Sorry. If you've split up it doesn't MEer?

56 minutes agoME
fair enough its not your place, i expect after seeing her for 4 months that she would tell me the truth. but the truth is, i just want you to confirm it so i know she wasnt lying totally to me. she did tell me that she told you that she had a boyfriend.

52 minutes agoJames “The guy”
She told me she had a bf yes! But end of the day it's not my place to take the moral
Highground, it's hers!! Trust me you don't want to hear what happened mate. Your young, 18 or whatever. I've done uni and there are so many girls out there don't get hung up. You should be at superbull tonight. Just meet people and have fun.

50 minutes agoME
that tells me that it wasn't just 2 kisses then? and you sleeping on her floor. Just do me a favour and confirm that more than that happened? And thanks anyway.

45 minutes agoJames “The guy”
It was a few kisses, more than 2 and me sleeping in her bed! Nothing happened though. As in sex! Does she want you back is this why your questioning? X

37 minutes agoME
tbh. She wants me to give her another chance. Maybe it was a spare of the moment kind of thing for her and She yet doesn't understand the gravity of being in a committed relationship. I think now she feels really guilty about the whole situation. She is only 18. And I'm, not going to hold that against her. But if you can honestly say it was nothing more than kissing or pushing them boundaries I'l know that I can at least have some respect for her for being honest.

35 minutes agoME
and I would just like you to be honest about that, directly or indirectly.

27 minutes agoJames “The guy”
Listen I can't lie to you because you seem like a decent lad! More happened. In fact everything that could possibly happen did! If you want me to go into detail I will. I'm sorry for lying originally but you seemed like you might give her a 2nd chance and I didnt want this to come between you, she's young and I'm me, so like the being football captain ect makes girls do crazy things they wouldnt normally. My advise would be to go out and have fun. Uni is so easy to meet girls if you just get out. Someone right is there waiting trust me.

22 minutes agoME
She was pretty convincing last night, just shows you can't trust anyone. I'd appreciate it if you kept this between us yeah? Thanks for being honest with me. Peace x

19 minutes agoJames “The guy”
I text her when you sent me the 1st message at 1.50ish but I won't again. We had sex all night then again when we woke up! Sorry that you had to deal with this but it's better now than months down the line. X

17 minutes agoME
What did you say to her just out of interest? Does she know that you've told me everything now?

13 minutes agoJames “The guy”
I put your ex just messaged me. Nothing about what was said! She doesn't know no!

9 minutes agoME
She never messaged back? And that's cool. I'd just like to ask her about it myself, if you do message back just say that you said you slept on her floor then got in her bed and kissed a couple of times etc... I'm not going to make a big deal out of it, After what she said to me last night I would rather she faced up to what she did and stopped trying to waste my time and admit it. At the end of the day, I'm not even bothered. I've done this to quite a few girls and just expected it off Polly. Just didn't have her down as such a compulsive liar.

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another one bites the dust

you're better off

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She does not yet know that I know. So.... I'm thinking of just chatting with her. I wanna know why she did it. She's got no chance in having me back. But I would like her to admit it.

I could get revenge. Not worth it though. The only revenge that I'm interested in is making her see what she missed out on. Someone successful etc...

This is my first proper relationship, girls just cheat on me. It's taken 3 years to get this far from a virgin. Just relationships I obs can't do.

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@MagicCaveman - Seriously kid ! What the are you doing. Either go punch the guy in the face and get it off your chest or shut up and go sleep with her friends.

YES SHE CHEATED ON YOU - You wanaa know why because you are a whiny little kid who is baggering everyone with your sobbing little story - Your 'Girlfriend', the guy who she slept with, probably your friends, probably her friends and us here on this forum - You are standing with a billboard over your head telling everyone that you got duped.

If you dont stop this, sooner or later she would tell you that she cheated and she liked it, may be even give you a detail description.

You have 3 options:
1. Shut up - drop her w/o a word - get on with your life
2. Shut up - sleep with her friends - let the news get to her
3. Shut up - enjoy free sex - find yourself another girl

In all the three options 'Shut up' is the common denominator.

Bullshit, you wanna know why? It's not because you are not alpha or for other shitty advice. The answer is not complex, it's just one thing : she is young and you are too.
Not mature enough and you too, and it's normal, you and her are 18.

If i have something to said, as advices, it will be this :

-> Don't generalize, not all girl are cheater. Don't close yourself to people. It's when the action of someone make you lose your faith in humanity and in people that you really lose. Don't let that happen. Never.

-> Learn to communicate openly, be friendly, elevate people mind and spirit.

->Relationship is not for you yet, i mean for you to be ready for a trully fulfilling relationship, wait till 25-30

-> Date during college at least 2 extrovert low self esteem girl. They will fuck your mind. Really. They will put you down as never someone put you down. Things are, you will learn a lot on how to handle relationship, how to keep your self-respect

-> Oh... and move on

Atleast... you didn't waste too much time with a cheater

Marc, thanks for your advice however I also disagree. Thanks Lec.

I feel as though I'm at the stage where I've been with many girls [im still young 22 btw], and I want to start just taking it a bit more easy, I want to start low level relationships and It's amazing that since ending it with this girl that people have told me other things.

She's the girl who looks so sweet and innocent, and nobody expected it from her. Yet she did it so easy. In a way, the first night we met she was already red flagged as she didnt want me to use a rubber. And it started off casual, the girl upstairs, then she kissed me one day infront of everyone, and we just got on so well, i asked her out.

I feel gutted. She doesn't know that I know this stuff yet... Iv invited her round tomorow night when she gets back from her friends, and I was going to make her tell me the truth. About everything. Just calmly and show that I'm the bigger person. She feels bad about it already, but... She's lied to me loads about it now.

At first she said it was just 2 kisses as well, maybe thinking there was a chance to get back. She didn't even wrap up with this guy, it makes me feel sick that my room is directly under her room.

Everyone feels as though I'm the chief, and get any hot girls I want. Right now, iv just been blown back to my total AFC days. Should I deal with it in this way?

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That means this other dude fucked her without a rubber as well.

Don't fuck this chick again, dude. You might catch herpes or something.

She should be dead to you. Never make contact with her again... Never.

For the guys in here trying to reason w/ the OP - the Next time your 22 yr old brother/nephew get tailended and in a state of total shock and disbelieve -
Dont give him lectures on humanity, don't keep telling him to keep faith, don't tell him he is too young (he knows that) !

Infact, check if he is hurt, let him react the first time and then LET HIM get back out there and get back his confidence.
Give him two options out of his league (punch the guy, sleep with her friends) and one that he can possibly achieve.

And when he is whining, dont whine with him. Worst still - ask him to find LSE girls to sleep with - Thats the receipe for good guys to find success early on but end up w/ emotional wrecks all their lives, and never be able to break that cycle

Been there bro, listen the truth is andlike a lot of one-itis, you just want to stay because you hate rejection or not getting the catch. You want her more now that you can't have her "like you used too"

Just think about it, would a "mature or bigger person as you said" really give two shits about it, no, you already know what do you gain from her telling you, a chick crying and saying she messed up and how she will never do it again.

Forget this little revenge, you don't need to get back at her, that is immature. If you want to fuck a friend of hers, do it because you actually find her hot, not just so stories go around, that ruins their friendship and makes you look like a cunt. Its your life and all, but everyone on this thread has given you pretty much a similar answer.

Shutup... as in dont fucking talk about it to her or anyone else and get the fuck out of that relationship, as in why you causing yourself pain, you can pretend you don't care but just asking us and telling us is another way for you to vent cause you are in pain. I am not saying run from your problems, but this bitch isnt your problem anymore so BOLT!!

Find another chick and try it with her. Life is about growing from mistakes, see what you did wrong in that relationship (attraction probably, maybe I dont know just a guess) and fix it.

My best advice is to simply drop it and go. Pack your bags and get on that jet plane, you'll thank everyone who gave you this advice later.

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it's so strange you know, how if this was someone else talking about it I would tell them the same as you lot said. When it's actually you, its so much different.

I'm talking to her within the next 2-4 hours, so, im just going to properly end it.

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DONT DO IT! You even just said you would tell the same thing, you just want to get the joy of having the last word... you get the last word by just leaving without notice... she will be talking about it to all her friends and you will (even in her friends opinions) will be the man. They know she cheated and you just elft her for that.

Be a man not a child. I am the most immature kid on this forum and I am saying that come on, thats fucked up when I say it.

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don't do this.

she will find a way to make you the bad guy.

she will go to any lengths...

even villifying you for "snooping" and saying "look, NO WONDER i cheated on you"

then you will spend the next thirty years hating the bitch.

don't tip your hand.

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Report on last night.

She came over not knowing that I knew everything. I sat her down and we just spoke for ages, I got her to go through every little detail. She said how it was just a couple of kisses then he slept on her floor and left in the morning.

I said to her, If i gave you one chance, to tell me everything, the truth, would you tell me just to get a second chance? She responded Yes. I said, well you havn't told me anything. Her voice dropped body language changed, it was obvious. So I told her I knew her. That I spoke to the guy. And she then just admitted it. I made her go through every detail.

She was devistated. I think she would do anything to get a second chance off me. And on a more personal level this girl is such a nice girl. It's just so out of character for her to do something like this.

She said that at the time it just happened, he used her toilet, then asked if he cud stay on the floor and she stupidly said yes, she got in the shower then he just walked in and it happened. then she sat up all night thinking about me, in the morning she just thought it was too far gone. She said it was nothing like the sex I give her (which is the only part that I heard in the tone of her voice which sounded truthful). I asked her, was it just the excitement of being dangerous etc... she said she didn't know.

I couldn't really be angry with her, I was just dissapointed. I think I really patronised her. I could see that she has been crying ever since, regretting it, thinking about it, knowing that some other player just fucked her over. I think it's probably a good thing that she experienced this.

Just the fact that she is young, away from home for the first time and naive I decided to be the bigger person (maybe some of you will disagree) And i just hugged her. Even though I was dissapointed, I could tell that she really felt like shit and her actions have definetly changed the way she will act in the future.

We hugged for ages, then it kinda went a bit wrong... :////////// fml...
I was just asking her why anyone would ever give her a second chance, she didn't try asking for one, she knew that had gone, but i just asked her and she was telling me about how bad this made her feel etc.. She said that everything we had was so perfect and she was looking forward to seeing me the next day so much (which was believable). A moment out of character which made everything perfect go so wrong.

I no longer have any respect for her. I just see her as a young hot naive girl who's hopefully learnt a lesson from this. She doesn't blame me for anything, she doesn't tell her friends bad things about me because they are all my friends as well and are all for me. She's not the type of girl who bitches. But she has told everyone that she has been stupid.

Laying in bed, I kept putting my lips close to hers, she wanted me to kiss her so much, i wasnt going to, i breathed down her neck etc... and said this should all be mine. she said it is all yours, i said its nothing but a disease now. I touched her... as I breathed down her neck and she went wet. I got up and washed my hands. Then she tossed me off and i came all over her, it's what she wanted.

I did nothing to her but let her know that had she not of done anything she would have felt he wraph of my penis inside her. The ultimate goal in her mind.

Considering everything. I don't respect her anymore. And I said that had I of done this I would go to hell and back to her her back. But, can i send her to the STI clinic (she said she would go), can i just make her an option in my life, someone I can hang out with and shag when ever I want. I don't really feel bad about losing her, it's just like an extra as I was just expecting it due to her being young. Can I keep it like this and just not get attched but let her know that she should never cheat again. Maybe after a few months I may start liking her again emotionally, but I think for me being too nice has done this to me. And now I feel as though I can just have her as an option and not get attached, Fucked up I know. But if i do meet a girl who I genuinly like in that time then you know.... but if she regrets it that much and it was a human mistake (of which 2 of my friends have done to people and I know them, and after that has never happened again) I'm no longer emotionally attached. At the end of the day. She did bad. Everyone makes mistakes. Drug addicts, alcaholics, criminals, some get a second chance, at first they are despised. But some do nothing but make that opportunity work for them. Don't view this from a "player kinda view" she fucked you over get rid of her completly. Given a second chance I would do anything. What are your guys thoughts on that.

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