Hey, thanks for the reply. I stuck with it. We spent more and more time together, and I kept building that comfort. Thing is, when you see her, she seems like one of those good girls--but I thought it was worth it. I finally got that kiss close and man, she's a freak on the inside.

I'm in.

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Locke, help me out? javascript:emoticon(':?')

Im sure that many guys have tried this, and that it usually does not work, but I was wondering if you guys can give me advice regardless.

Here is my situation:
The girl has been one of my very close best friends since middle school. We've always been a bit more then just normal friends you can say, but never anything more then little kisses here and there. Mostly just a lot of kino. Anyway, she broke up with her very very very long term bf a few weeks ago, and I'v been seeing her literally everyday for the past 3 weeks. We get along great, still do a lot of kino, kisses on the cheeks etc etc, but she literally has a mental block on me being more then friends with her.

One block here is that she realllly doesnt want a bf right now because of the break up and wants to avoid getting into another relationship at the moment.
The other is that we'v been such close friends for such a long time. BTW she knows that I really like her, and that I wanna take out relationship as more then friends.

She's been telling me stuff like "you're a good fake bf" because we'v been going everywhere together like NBA game or restaurants etc.. And I'v also taken her to a vista point with a really nice view, where she told me" If we're ever going to have sex, it will be here"

Now I dont mind waiting for her to be ready, while getting with other girls in the process (she wouldnt mind) but I know that if I wait and just let go of everything she will find someone else, and all the sudden Im gonna have her telling me that she found a guy, and that she is ready for a relationship, at which point it will be too late for me. I cant let that happen.

Therefore, I really need you guys advice on how to proceed with this situation, and what I should/shouldnt do. She has not ruled out us being together in the future, and I know for a fact that she definetly thought of us being more then friends, just now how do I can get her to go through with it.

Thanks in advance

It sounds like you have a very strong sexual frame with her, but you are in the friend zone. So pretty much, that is how you have been labeled to her. You are the friend that wants to get with her....you've made it obvious, she knows, you know.

Sitting down and talking about it is going to get the same results-- we are friends, you're awesome, but I'm not sure if I am ready. Not sitting down to talk about it will give her the impression you accept being the friend that likes her but never takes it further.

So your option? In my opinion I think you are only left with one choice, and that is to follow through. You already have a sexual frame, you already kino, and you already talk about doing that stuff. Because of that, you can get away with a lot. Push that boundary. You could do it slowly, or you could do it in one fun night....but you have push it.

For example if she says: You make a great fake boyfriend, you say "let me see your hand." She shows it to you, you grab it, pull her into you and say: would a fake boyfriend do this! Then do something beyond what a friend would do.

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Thanks Locke, thats good advice, and I was thinking of doing that sort of think all along, but didnt know if I should have.

p.s. Sorry for double posting.

Locke,

I always come to you for advice in relationships Locke and that will never change lol because you always get straight to the point and answer my questions perfectly leaving me with that feeling of satisfaction, proberly like the women in your life haha;)

anyways, as you know im a young 16 year old looking for a LTR SPAM because im bored of random hook ups , lets say ive been unlucky in love lol.

well down to business, i've been seeing lot of this girl lately, we've seen each other twice this week and seeing eachother at a party tomorrow night, spent the day with her monday and sorta did girlfriend, boyfriend things play fighting on my bed etc etc, we've made out before so its no big deal, im getting all the right signals from her but still i've not given the game away that i like her and kept it so I am the prize. Now i'm sure she knows that we're not 'just friends' and hopefully going a little bit further on this one. But I have a few questions.

firstly as a young 16 year old many of us are still at that stage where we ask the other to 'be their girlfriend' which is kinda sad but thats life i guess.

few points to consider are that:

she tries to hold my hand alot when we're in public even

she cuddles me alot and is quite affectionate

the other day she did blow me out for a kiss on my bed but i guess it was LMR kicking in as she did peck me on the lips 3 times when i left her that night

we havent slept together

and my questions are:

- How can I ask her to 'be my girlfriend' in a mature way but a way she will understand? also i dont like the idea of asking as this is fairly AFC.

- Secondly before I ask her this I want to 'bait' her to see if she would say yes or whatever? By this i mean look for some clues on wether she would like to be with me. You know like in pick up before escalating you look for IOI's. Similar to that..

also i've read the onion theory which is great!

Thanks for your help look forward to your response

Lockestar©,

I have a question for you.

1) How much steak could a Lockestar© chuck if a Lockestar© could chuck steak?

~Medic

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hahahaha. I don't know how much attention I drew to the fact that I ate a 30 ounce steak, but it was too much....it's disgusting and I never recommend it.

Hiiiiiiii Medic! Glad to know you still @C my name; which is also now my email.

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Straight down to the point? It sounds to me like she is already acting like your girlfriend. Why not just continue along that path and have that assumption?

If you want the reassurance, or want to make it official so that you two have the comfort of a relationship, then simply say "I like you, you like me....lets make this official." It's easy, it's direct, and it will give you instant result (varying results, of course).

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Hey Locke, could use some help mate!

I'm looking for a LTR with a girl right now, been out for two years clubs bars and pick up and now want a Gf.

Anyhow, this girl HB8.5 I like, her friend, my cousin, was telling me about how HB8.5 has been busy with school and work and other stuff lately. She's dating a few different guys, her friend said she isn't sleeping with them, just going out bowling, clubs, etc. One of the guys (who I think really likes her a lot but he is playing it cool) he had been trying to call her for a few days and then finally left her a VM and said something like 'you must be busy with your new BF, I don't mind you having a BF hun you know that- good to know there's someone there for you when I'm too busy' or something like that.

Right so to the point..LOL..When that guy left that VM the HB8.5 I like was pretty upset - she thinks he really isn't bothered about her having another guy, just like he said. And now she said she isn't interested in a guy who would talk to her like that...So her interest level in HIM is on the floor right now..but what about him? my cousin said the guy was just gaming and he probably really does care about her having a BF and that HE wants her to himself.He just said that to game her, kind of like push pull I guess?
I'm trying to find out how interested this guy is in her..He called her a lot during a two week period, left that message, now he's kind of freezing her out and hasn't called her for a couple weeks. I can't read his game. Does he want to be her BF?

Ok so there's another girl, HB7.5, who I've been FB with for a couple years, very on and off. She's a real nice girl and I kind of feel bad about how I treated her at first. I didn't want LTR back then but I did like her and the chemistry was great. I think she is GF worthy but I like the HB8.5 better than this one. So I'm trying for HB8.5 first.

Main question from all of this - is the guy who told her he doesn't 'mind' if she has a BF just fronting her? Or is he not interested in her really, except maybe for something like FB?

Who cares if he does or does not approve of her having another boyfriend? He might have said that to sound casual, but none of that matters for you. Invest her interest into you, and her mind will be off him in no time.

And if you are looking for a serious relationship like you said, I'd recommend straying from the mind set of "settling." You have two "options" that you are willing to "take." No. If you are going to be in a serious relationship that you actually want to make work, you find someone (that is without a doubt) you would be compatible with, not settling for.

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The thing is, this other guy who I think is just using reverse psychology on her, I think he really does want to be with her, he's got a rep for being violent and I'm not looking to get into a fight. Sure I can take care of myself when I need to - but I don't go looking for trouble. If this guy wants her, I'm more than happy to roll over and NOT be the Alpha because I don't want some dude coming to kill me.

Great advice on the settling thing too. You're dead right.

The thing is, this other guy who I think is just using reverse psychology on her, I think he really does want to be with her, he's got a rep for being violent and I'm not looking to get into a fight. Sure I can take care of myself when I need to - but I don't go looking for trouble. If this guy wants her, I'm more than happy to roll over and NOT be the Alpha because I don't want some dude coming to kill me.



again, if you have no problem "rolling over," then you probably don't want a relationship with her....

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Hey!

Do you have a idea for some adventurous things to do with a girlfriend? Going to movies or coffee shops is getting boring...
The problem is, here in austria its winter time so not very worm.

Do you have some good ideas?

Thanks

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Hell yea, it's winter time! Go snowshoeing...go winter time hiking, buy a stack of cheap bricks and make a firepit in your backyard--invite people over and socialize (my favorite wintertime home activity!). You could go cross country skiing, you could buy fake snow from the internet, ice up something, and slide around...you could boil up a thermos of hot cocoa and go for a drive in the country side, you could take midnight walks in the city. There are plenty of things you can do....maybe you should sit down and think about some.

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Hello Locke, here is my dilemma....I ended up meeting this HB9 named Kim @ the gym. We had a wonderful conversation about evolution and guys vs. women, so on, and so on. I felt positive about the date we set up for Wednesday and decided to use a little text game for heightened tension, (C&F). We had our date @ Carabba's and it went fantastic! I wowed her with my convos and eventually cubed her with great kino escalation preceding. The vibe was amazing. We then watched a scary movie @ the theater down the street and more kino escalation continued to happen. She was totally feeling me and I knew I could see her as a long term girlfriend. I ended up kissing her @ the end of the night and it could not have been any more perfect. The following 2 dates after that, (high end dinner and movie at my place) went fairly well.

The biggest problem with this girl is that she has been hurt by her BF in the past and told me its hard for her to be physical with anyone else, and says she is not used to the kisses and other passionate displays that I do on her. Anyways other than me just being able to get a quick second makeout it has been great and we are only dating "exclusively" with each other and no one else.

Well, we went to Austin TX this weekend where I was gonna pop the "GF" question to her because I would be bringing her onto my turf and show her my city. This girl has lived in Kuwait and traveled the globe, so I wanted to show her a new city she hasn't been to. Well, when we get there we get to the hotel and unpack and visit two of my friends. She absolutely loves my buddy Mike and they talk about traveling and stuff like that, I really saw her attraction switches trigger when she was talking to him, which bothered me. Anyways we went downtown and it was fairly cold and she was in a bad mood because of the weather but generally she did not like the city as a hole. At dinner she told me that she was not ready to be emotionally ready for a relationship when I told her I wanted to be with her. I told her I understood her feelings and she needs to do what's best for her, obviously.

That night I tried to kino escalate again but could only manage a makeout so I decided to sleep. We didn't cuddle because she still would not open up to me. The next morning we were both kind of hungover and she told me what a great time she had and how perfect I was except she needed more time to think why she wasn't happy at the moment, that it was her problem. Anyways during the car ride conversations were a bit dismal, and I called her out to see why she was so reserved, she kind of blew up just a bit and said "Are there like performance standards for you, I'm just chillin, is this how your ex-gfs acted blah blah blah...." I was caught off guard but maintained a strong frame. It got better once we finally got back home, she gave me a kiss goodbye and told me she wanted to see me before these coming days before she takes a 10 DAY SKI TRIP in Colorado.

I have really developed deep feelings for this girl, but she's so fucking complicated and I found out she added my buddy mike on facebook from her mini-feed and I don't think she had the best time compared to our other dates and she didn't want to be my bf because of emotional problems at the moment. How do I win her heart? What should I do to stay Alpha? How should I initiate the next phone call and when? Please, anybody, I have been with my fair share of women, but I really want this one, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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