Good! Why would you want this back? Don't swallow the bait.

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If all this was going on why did you act like she wasn't preparing to break up with you and why did you act like it was this friend situation? You got the right advice

It's the same story with a lot of these guys that come on here trying to find a strategy to win their ex's back. Don't reveal the information because he already knew the obvious answer. Instead, give some bogus excuse so we can tell him to "do this and this". Manipulate us into helping him manipulate her.

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$10 says he disappears.

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UPDATE!! HEEEEEEEEEELP!

My newly ex gf has been on one and a half days of freeze out and she is now threatening to come round my place tomorrow....

What do I do?

Jack.... I only realised this building up in the last 2 weeks.
The onset has been SO fast. None of this was happening 2 weeks ago just prior to her moving out!

This is the strangest circumstance I have been in.
She didn't even clearly verbally say that I WANT TO BREAK UP. or I WANT TO BE ON MY OWN...

She said "I don't know if I want to be in a relationship...." Is this exactly the same?

I'm not just another idiot coming onto here asking for advice. I knew breaking up was the right thing to do and I am following instructions also. I'm not gonna cave in!

Well you don't have to answer the fucking door now do you?

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Huh...so let me get this straight...she has not broken up with you...she mentioned it and you disappeared...don't get me wrong she probably is going to but you're going about it crazy. Just tell her

Seriously? The breakup signals were there before. You knew it but ignored them. When she moved out is when you decided it was time to act. I get it. It's ego...your posts are filled with that indicator. You've been the best relationship she's been in, you've provided for her, you are in demand, her friends and family love you, and so on. So the problem couldn't be you. You've blamed the friend consistently because you couldn't be honest and say she wasn't feeling you the same way as she used to, even though you say that the signals were there before.

This is what you said when you were told on day 1 of this post that she was prepping for a breakup: You knew it was coming but you kept telling us it wasn't happening and it didn't make sense. You just wanted us to tell you what to do to keep her in place. Even at this point you're still asking what you should do because you're trying to manipulate the situation.

Stop playing the freeze out game and looking for methods to get your ex back. Give her the rest of her possessions and let her go about her merry way.

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I went to drop her stuff back in the evening. She sent me these texts all day and I didn't reply at all:

13:33 Why are you ignoring me?
10 missed calls up til now
17:50 I'll keep ringing until you answer, I really don't know why you're doing this..
16 missed calls now
18:59 You're starting to vex me.
Why are you ignoring my calls, I really don't understand?
19:02 If you at least had the courtesy to tell me why you're doing this I wouldn't even bother.
19:09 You won't answer, that's fine, I'll see you tomorrow.
27 missed calls now
20:11 Can you at least let me know you're okay, I'm worried

I dropped her stuff back and knocked on the door. She is at home alone.
I went back after a minute and she hadn't opened the door to take her stuff. The area she lives in isn't nice right now so I knock again a little louder. She didn't answer the door so I texted her with:
21:11 Your stuff may get stolen if you leave it outside any longer.

She calls again and again and in between continuous ringing she texts:

21:15 How could you do that to me. I am here on my own, not expecting anyone. I phoned the police because I was terrified. I can't believe you ..
21:30 Look, after the way we left things your behaviour seems very strange to me.
After the last day we spent together, you got to admit that. You scared me so much tonight and for what?
Why did you feel you couldn't do the courtesy to ring me or text before hammering down my door?
After all of this I actually never want to see you again. I was actually questioning a lot of things the last few days but you've just made my mind for me.
That was well out of order, you should actually be ashamed of yourself.
21:34 ***** I'm actually suffering anxiety attack after what you've done. Why are you doing this to me?
21:42 please just talk to me, I am in such a state and there is nobody else. I don't know what to do, I really wouldn't ask you if it wasn't serious
21:47 You don't care


And when I got home I got a Facebook message saying I can't believe you came round my house etc and I saw I got unfriended and blocked universally from everything.

The last things she said to me included "I don't know I want to be in a relationship" and"I just don't know what I want". I guess maybe she wasn't wording things right but she didn't say I don't want to be with you (full stop).
If she had broken up with me why would she call me so many times? Just to find out if I'm okay?
Why didn't she end things online on Sunday or Monday day before I dropped things back?

I don't think there's a logical explanation is there.
My only logical thought is have I read the situation wrong? Some things tell me NO because of her actions. She didn't have the courtesy to tell me she wanted to leave my place at the time and she didn't give any courtesy when it came to not looking at all the stuff we have together etc. Saying I don't care is beyond idiocy. Seems like it is all a trap (Akbar).

This is all so stupid. I'm out.

Can you please stop looking for logic? Logic has nothing to do with it, fucks sake.

How is any of this surprising to you? Yes she wants to get out of the relationship but she wants to do it on her terms, OBVIOUSLY.
First step is moving out.
Second is finding someone else to feed her attention needs.
Third is cutting you loose when she has that security.

Now she's panicking because shit escalated much quicker than she had expected.

Everything she does and says from here on out will be nothing more than a cry for attention and a desperate attempt to get her "fix". The decision of ending this relationship has been already made, in her head, way before she even moved out and you'd be an idiot if you let her use you like that.


PS:Who in the actual fuck "get's terrified and phones the police" because someone knocks on their door? Holy fucking cry for attention that's pathetic.

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The reason we have a community like this is for help from each other. And thanks for the above.
It's very much appreciated RG. She had conveyed her lack of certainty about her wanting a relationship and then we got intimate.

So why would she say "I've been considering things the last few days" as in getting her mind made up or is this all bull?

Both. She's in a shitstorm of emotion and wants to drag you into it as well. If she succeeds, she'll have confirmed that her decision of leaving you was right.

It's easy for her to leave you when she feels she has "nothing to lose". It's not so easy when she starts getting the impression that you're actually the one that has nothing to lose and she has everything to lose. That's irony for you. So naturally she's starting to think she's made a mistake.

She's being selfish OP. First she fucks with you with all this "uncertainty talk". There is no such thing as uncertainty. She was very certain she wanted to the relationship to end. She moved out. But she wanted to keep you around long enough to make that transition easier. Usually "long enough" means until another guy enters the scene.
When you don't give her that satisfaction, she then starts accusing you of "not caring" in an attempt to get her own needs met with little to no regard of how this entire scenario is affecting you.

It's textbook emotional manipulation. She's not doing it on purpose. She's not being intentionally malicious either. She simply made her bed, is starting to realize it was a stupid thing to do and now isn't being mature enough to accept the consequences of her actions. She's even making it worse by attempting to place the weight on your shoulders for it.

You did the right thing by cutting her off both irl and on social media. Move on with your life. This woman stopped deserving your investment a long time ago.

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RC.

If you were here IRL... it would be pretty much just a handshake thanking you for this and the above etc.

I will carry on and yeah.. she does have everything to lose. Nobody looks after someone whilst not being a pushover as I do.

This is why the whole thing has been weird... I have been doing everything textbook in regards to how a PUA should handle a relationship. I don't cave in to women and Im very alpha. I train in MMA, I have a sales job and drive a decent vehicle and can do massage and speak multiple languages and play instruments to high level. My value is off the charts.

She doesn't drive, doesn't speak languages etc.

I wonder what the next girl will be like. I need me a girl who lifts this time!