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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:33 am 
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Guys i am so desperate, i don't know what to do.
Can you please give me an advice on my big post the previous page?
I can't live anymore being in this situation and not knowing what i have to do.
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I've been dating this one girl for 6 months now. We see each other about 2 or 3 times a month but we both have been busy for the past month and she says it's been so long we haven't seen each other that it feels like she hasn't even met me in person yet. Everything is normal between us though just a feeling she had, does it sound that bad? Should I be worried? I'm seeing her this week anyway.
neh she wants to see you more...if you don't fullfill this need she will become impatient. Look for the underlaying context - '' i don't see you enough''.. it's not '' i hate you or this isn't what i want....

woman are like smoke sensors..they beep when something is burning - they want you to put out the fire.

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you shouldn't ignore her... of course she is lying about her phone. You responded emotional by ignoring her... like you care too much. Move one.. do a huge freeze out.

when you blow it by becoming emotional...like you base your Descision on THEIR actions... you messed up. You decide to ignore her because she didn't reply... she knows - she isn't stupid. you ignore her because you are way too attached to her reactions.

i know from experience that you have blown it...but i also recovered...you always can try to pretend nothing has happened..you can try texting her again. put this frame in your head '' nothing special has happened''....

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Any comments or suggestions are welcomed. Bc im basically having to re-game my girl, but under a different set of rules. thanks guys
her being honest is a good thing ... observe her personality.. does she express her emotions and how does she do it. Learn to drink it .. just like good wine..try to understand her to avoid misscommunication. in other words '' what is her temperament ?''

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o shit .. sounds like something that happened to me some years ago... a girl was in love with me for almost a year and i never realised it. She probably liked you for a very very long time.. now if you hurt her feeling or make her jealous she will get buyers remorse...

it's like when you were a small kid..your dad promised you will get a bike at the end of the year...and all those months are passing but he never bought you one. It's doesn't matter if you got a explanation or not because she is already hurt... from her perspective the damage is already done.

chasing her is the worst thing you can do..whatever you do DO not chase her , she still feels bad about it - as long she is feeling this you shouldn't contact her. Move on.. buyers remorse is terrible.
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I can't live anymore being in this situation and not knowing what i have to do.
make a descision to end the stress....and aside from that .. get a fucking life.. enough woman on this planet - you are just having one-itis... time heals and practicing inner game heals

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no...be formal .. just be as short as possible and formal as possible. tell her a few times you don't have time and that you are bussy.

let her sit next to you... don't sit next to her... in other words: be indifferent....she's like being a friend that shows too much interest.. it confused you.

look for IOI... her flinging her hair.. leaning alot to your side.. touching her leg or moving her leg towards yours.. blushing.. quick glances..laughing alot..her biting on her lips. If she looks to you while you are looking forward or to your side ( away from her ) she is interested.

analyze her body language.. you need to know her motives .. is she interested or not ?dating or verbal stuff doesn't work right now. Read her body language...i know what a woman is thinking unconciously just because i observe her body language , if you have trouble reading signals just reply to me

your next reply...

yes... hanging out with friends is not a big deal... really...people can say whatever they want.. do not pay attention to her words.. pay attention to her actions and body language. her whole message doesn't make any sense...
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But she does mind hanging out with me because she keeps telling me that she's too busy with school, work, and other stuff but then she can hang out with her other friends outside from school, but she can't hang out with me
exactly... don't believe her words ... you aren't stupid... god gave you 2 eyes and one mouth.. word don't mean shit - only eyes can see the truth.

send her a message back .. '' what the fuck are you talking about'' ? use the F word as well.

because .. her message still doesn't make any sense and it sounds too emotional which is weird. why would a girl be emotional around you and at the same time avoids you ? Be prepared to abandon the idea of hooking up with her.. actually do it right now - if you do it right now you don't have to deal with it later on.

if you ask me .. this whole message of her is a shit test... do not comply.. use the F word.

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She also told me I am the only guy who understands her emotions! But I classified that as a "nice guy wuss into the friends zone" talk.
no ... she is saying '' you understand my emotional needs''...she values you .. push fucking hard .. keep going out and dating her... just go for it.

the best way to lose your emotional attachement is to get dumped ( break up, rejection ) ...if you decide to call a quit you might as well just go for it, you already showed emotions...

how much is she on your mind?

do you ever got the feeling she is manipulative ?

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o shit .. sounds like something that happened to me some years ago... a girl was in love with me for almost a year and i never realised it. She probably liked you for a very very long time.. now if you hurt her feeling or make her jealous she will get buyers remorse...

it's like when you were a small kid..your dad promised you will get a bike at the end of the year...and all those months are passing but he never bought you one. It's doesn't matter if you got a explanation or not because she is already hurt... from her perspective the damage is already done.

chasing her is the worst thing you can do..whatever you do DO not chase her , she still feels bad about it - as long she is feeling this you shouldn't contact her. Move on.. buyers remorse is terrible.
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I can't live anymore being in this situation and not knowing what i have to do.
make a descision to end the stress....and aside from that .. get a fucking life.. enough woman on this planet - you are just having one-itis... time heals and practicing inner game heals
I understand what you say and that the damage was done etc.
However the GIVE ME SPACE thing does't mean she met someone...
From what i've told you, Is there anything i can do to make it good again? I shouldn't contact her at all until she does? or i should give her a phone call and start being funny with her and like just friendly and all that stuff, and after to say:"Hey, i've got to go, we'll talk, and close the phone?"


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buyers remorse is a bitch .. once a woman got such thing i stop interacting with her.. because from experience i know that it will not work out. These days i never get buyers remorse because i know how to prevent such thing, it's freaking easy.

you cannot live .. you have the feeling doing nothing won't get you anywhere...if you decide to not talk to her and move on you end your stress .. it will take some time to heal but you will be ok.

if you contact her and she rejects you she will end your stress .. because then you have to accept the fact that she doesn't want to interact with you anymore. but she is making the descision for you....you are SPAM your descision making power to her.

Stress will end.. if she dumps you or you dump her..

from experience .. all my dating and relationships experience and what i have seen from other guys ; You will be better off if you just stop talking to her because when she dumps you ,you have to deal with positive AND negative emotions.. you have to deal with love and rejection + loss...

if you dump her you only suffer love and loss.. 2 emotions are easier to process instead of 3 - it takes less energy. Yeah i allowed myself to be dumped because i just wanted the challenge of learning more and processing more emotions - but that takes energy. you have a certain amount of energy everyday... i cannot do my job if im distracted by all these emotions - too much emotional pain can mess up you for weeks or months - takes too much energy.

it all depends on your inner game ability...

the woman with buyers remorse...i did contact alot of them just because i knew they were gone. Same with woman who turn out to be manipulative or different then they really are.. i make the descisions to pull the plugs... when i processed these emotions and rationalized my beliefs i contact woman again - because now i know i don't care about the results... i gave up the idea of being with them anyway.

if you are having one-itis or when you are too attached you haven't processed you loss and possible rejection , you shouldn't chase.

to get the woman you have to detach from the outcome...

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Thanks a lot for the answer Lodewijkp !

However, as right as you might be, you really think she is 100% into rejecting me from this point? Even if i wait and i do not contact her?
The buyers remorse is a one way thing which has no other outcome than break up?

Still, if you would have any tips about my situation, it would be so great if you could give them, tips in regards of salvaging this.
Thanks again.


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she isn't rejecting you a full 100 % ... maybe 95 %... it's not because you fucked up. It are her own emotions and her own ideas in her head , maybe it doesn't got anything to do with you. you only make her trigger to feel these emotions and she probably associated these emotions with you. You cannot change the way she feels because it is in her head... read on

Just never get needy... you see .. when you do pickup woman fall in love with a certain you. Who are you really ? a needy guy ? a emotional guy ? a jerk ?

do not misunderstand me... in a relationship there will be moments when you are needy , when your dad dies or when you are involved in a accident. Just don't be needy during dating....

when you date you look cool .. but when you escalate is becomes different... are you still the guy she got attracted to ?

Woman do not fall in love with you, they fall in love with the idea of you... that's why i prefer so called '' natural game '' just being myself. i want someone to love me and not a image they have created themselfs. when you started becoming needy she felt regret for feeling emotions for someone who isn't real - she saw you becoming needy and she lost a huge part of attraction.

the idea woman have about you.. the image they create.. don't live up to it - just be honest with who you really are and express yourself. People who manipulate just make you fall in love with a certain image or idea of them, they aren't real - and when you are in love with them you will find out they aren't really themselfs - they deceived you...

and boy that hurts... most people don't even realise they are manipulators.. they are just insecure and think woman cannot love them for who they really are - so they learn game.. routines and shit.. to cover up their insecurities.

do you understand how a woman feels when she compromises her emotions too fast ?

When a woman OR when you are manipulating, you are :

1. stupid ( you say contradictive shit and you don't even realise it )

2. insecure or having limiting beliefs ( you change yourself a bit..once you got her interest you become too attached because it boosts your self esteem.. wow someone likes me blabla)

3. too much self-interest.. you want to achieve something so bad you are changing yourself in order to achieve it ( guys in relationships or guys in dating start value-ing the girl too much so they get needy and compromise their values)

4. not accepting yourself regarding interactions with a certain person

the question is .. did you manipulate yourself ... ? why did you got needy ?

yes you can get her back ... don't expect it to be the first few weeks or months...move on game other woman. Fix your core issues so some inner game and get good with woman in general.

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But she does mind hanging out with me because she keeps telling me that she's too busy with school, work, and other stuff but then she can hang out with her other friends outside from school, but she can't hang out with me
exactly... don't believe her words ... you aren't stupid... god gave you 2 eyes and one mouth.. word don't mean shit - only eyes can see the truth.

send her a message back .. '' what the fuck are you talking about'' ? use the F word as well.

because .. her message still doesn't make any sense and it sounds too emotional which is weird. why would a girl be emotional around you and at the same time avoids you ? Be prepared to abandon the idea of hooking up with her.. actually do it right now - if you do it right now you don't have to deal with it later on.

if you ask me .. this whole message of her is a shit test... do not comply.. use the F word.[/quote]

Lodewijkp YOU ARE FUCKING MAN DUDE sorry for my language but I'm HAPPY I expressed myself and let her know what was on my mind. I took your advice and used the F word and told her exactly what you asked me to do and this is what she wrote back to me! And she emailed me not once but twice OMG hhhahahahhhahaha WHAT SHOULD BE MY NEXT MOVE MAN?

HER FIRST REPLY (THIS WAS AT NIGHT)

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I didn't mean it like that at all. You are reading into it way too much and misinterpreting it. You want to know the truth, I haven't hung out with a friend outside of school or work since mid summer. At this point in my life, I am focused 100% on my school work, my work at the gym, and my horse. I am sorry if you do not like that, but it has absolutely nothing to do with you. I consider you a friend and I have your back if you ever need anything (someone to talk to, help on homework, any emergency, etc...). I consider Rida my best friend at SJSU and she and I have only hung out a total of 3 times outside of school since we met last fall. My other two best friends don't even live in SF, so I only get to spend time with them when they visit the city. I am really sorry that you feel this is me not liking you, because that is not the case at all. I'm actually a very shy, private person and if you do not like me because of that, then I'm sorry. I have never lied to you, though. I told you from the beginning that I spend every weekend with my family and doing homework, that I don't go out, and that I wasn't interested in dating anyone, so you cannot be mad at me for who I am. Doesn't mean I don't care".

HER SECOND REPLY (AND THIS MORNING)

"Look, I am sorry. I felt bad last night and this morning. I know you think I am coming off like a bitch and that I do not care about our friendship. I can tell you that is not the truth and that this is who I am and where I am at in my life, but i know you will not believe me. So you can think whatever you want about me, but you have no right to judge me when you do not know that much about me and what has led me to be a very private person. I do not want to feel bad about myself and what I have chosen to do with my life just because you are mad at me for not having a social life outside of school. I don't want you to be mad or hurt, I do not want to "fight" with you, and I do not want to have "drama" in my life. So I am apologizing if I made you feel bad, but if you do not like the person that I am, then no one said you ever had to be friends with me. I will always be here for you if you do decide you want to be friends".

What should I do next man?

Thank you so much man I really appreciate all the advice you have given me DUDE YOU ARE A AWESOME PERSON


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So me and my gf live together at my parents house me and her are moving to dallas to get an apartment together in december. We went to go look at appt this week in dallas and when we came back my mother and sister told her right when we walked in the door that they dont want her to be her anymore and that they dont like her because they think she is a bad influence on me im 24 she is 17. my sister said she doesent like her because the first few weeks we were together she slept with someone else (cheated) and she thinks she is a know good slut. And now she wants to move back with her parents and i told her i want her to do what makes her happy. But what i wont tell her is that i dont want her to leave i feel like it will be a huge step backwards we have been together for 2 months and other than her one mistake i have had a great time with her and i dont want this to end its so hard i really have strong feelings for her and i dont know what to do i just want to be happy 2.

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no...be formal .. just be as short as possible and formal as possible. tell her a few times you don't have time and that you are bussy.

let her sit next to you... don't sit next to her... in other words: be indifferent....she's like being a friend that shows too much interest.. it confused you.

look for IOI... her flinging her hair.. leaning alot to your side.. touching her leg or moving her leg towards yours.. blushing.. quick glances..laughing alot..her biting on her lips. If she looks to you while you are looking forward or to your side ( away from her ) she is interested.

analyze her body language.. you need to know her motives .. is she interested or not ?dating or verbal stuff doesn't work right now. Read her body language...i know what a woman is thinking unconciously just because i observe her body language , if you have trouble reading signals just reply to me

your next reply...

yes... hanging out with friends is not a big deal... really...people can say whatever they want.. do not pay attention to her words.. pay attention to her actions and body language. her whole message doesn't make any sense...
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But she does mind hanging out with me because she keeps telling me that she's too busy with school, work, and other stuff but then she can hang out with her other friends outside from school, but she can't hang out with me
exactly... don't believe her words ... you aren't stupid... god gave you 2 eyes and one mouth.. word don't mean shit - only eyes can see the truth.

send her a message back .. '' what the fuck are you talking about'' ? use the F word as well.

because .. her message still doesn't make any sense and it sounds too emotional which is weird. why would a girl be emotional around you and at the same time avoids you ? Be prepared to abandon the idea of hooking up with her.. actually do it right now - if you do it right now you don't have to deal with it later on.

if you ask me .. this whole message of her is a shit test... do not comply.. use the F word.
Lodewijkp

YOU ARE FUCKING MAN DUDE sorry for my language but I'm HAPPY I expressed myself and let her know what was on my mind. I took your advice and used the F word and told her exactly what you asked me to do and this is what she wrote back to me! And she emailed me not once but twice OMG hhhahahahhhahaha WHAT SHOULD BE MY NEXT MOVE MAN?

HER FIRST REPLY (THIS WAS AT NIGHT)

"Hey,
I didn't mean it like that at all. You are reading into it way too much and misinterpreting it. You want to know the truth, I haven't hung out with a friend outside of school or work since mid summer. At this point in my life, I am focused 100% on my school work, my work at the gym, and my horse. I am sorry if you do not like that, but it has absolutely nothing to do with you. I consider you a friend and I have your back if you ever need anything (someone to talk to, help on homework, any emergency, etc...). I consider Rida my best friend at SJSU and she and I have only hung out a total of 3 times outside of school since we met last fall. My other two best friends don't even live in SF, so I only get to spend time with them when they visit the city. I am really sorry that you feel this is me not liking you, because that is not the case at all. I'm actually a very shy, private person and if you do not like me because of that, then I'm sorry. I have never lied to you, though. I told you from the beginning that I spend every weekend with my family and doing homework, that I don't go out, and that I wasn't interested in dating anyone, so you cannot be mad at me for who I am. Doesn't mean I don't care".

HER SECOND REPLY (AND THIS MORNING)

"Look, I am sorry. I felt bad last night and this morning. I know you think I am coming off like a bitch and that I do not care about our friendship. I can tell you that is not the truth and that this is who I am and where I am at in my life, but i know you will not believe me. So you can think whatever you want about me, but you have no right to judge me when you do not know that much about me and what has led me to be a very private person. I do not want to feel bad about myself and what I have chosen to do with my life just because you are mad at me for not having a social life outside of school. I don't want you to be mad or hurt, I do not want to "fight" with you, and I do not want to have "drama" in my life. So I am apologizing if I made you feel bad, but if you do not like the person that I am, then no one said you ever had to be friends with me. I will always be here for you if you do decide you want to be friends".

What should I do next man?

Thank you so much man I really appreciate all the advice you have given me DUDE YOU ARE A AWESOME PERSON


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