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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:54 am 
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You're letting her dictate the pass of the relationship and hence you're being a follower.

Let's take it slow? Really? When has that ever worked for anyone?

She's exactly right. She's enjoying this "game" and you're playing it on her terms. Which is why you're gonna lose.
Ok good point, any suggestions?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:04 am 
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What exactly have you been doing while spending more and more time together?

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What exactly have you been doing while spending more and more time together?
If its a nice day we spend it in the nature beaches and parks, outdoor fests,etc. We go out to different places to eat and drink. Clubbing, boat cruises, walks in thebpark with her dog. Bowling, escape rooms. The girl like to drinks so half the time we are supper buzzed and end up making out wherever we are. Our dates are generally 6-12 hours long. So half a day to a whole day. She pays for most of the stuff like food and drinks, I pay for about 30%, not because I dont want to but because she insits on paying.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:25 am 
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And did you ever take her home to watch a movie after a day like that?

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I dont own TV bud, it has crossed my mind that maybe I should buy one jusr to chill with girls, but it hasnt been difficult only with this girl. And its not for the luck of funds, I just dont do TV.

She has been to my place once, I tried fooling around and still no sex. The girl is on a major lockdown. She saysbshe hasnt had sex for over a year, not sure if its true it seems far streached.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:40 am 
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Movies are not exclusive to TV's. Use your laptop.

I'm trying to get you to understand that sex or intimacy is not going to happen if you don't lead the interaction to a place where sex and/or intimacy can happen. Like the comfort of your home.

Get to your place, buy some wine or whatever, share a few drinks while watching cat videos on youtube and escalate.
Or invite her over, buy some groceries and cook something together.

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Makes sense, not sure why I am having a totaly brain freeze with this one.

Thanks for advise.


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What exactly have you been doing while spending more and more time together?
If its a nice day we spend it in the nature beaches and parks, outdoor fests,etc. We go out to different places to eat and drink. Clubbing, boat cruises, walks in thebpark with her dog. Bowling, escape rooms. The girl like to drinks so half the time we are supper buzzed and end up making out wherever we are. Our dates are generally 6-12 hours long. So half a day to a whole day. She pays for most of the stuff like food and drinks, I pay for about 30%, not because I dont want to but because she insits on paying.
Sounds like a girl who is on the fence. Usually a bold text can spin them off onto your side.

either that or you aren't leading properly, and she's feels your weakness and flakes.

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Update: I made an executive decision to abandon this project for now, mainly because I am getting pretty busy with other girls who actually want to be with me. So following natures ways of finding a path of least resistance I am going to concentrate my energy on other opportunities.

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So I am looking at this thread anew and I am wondering what's the quality of connection between this girl and the Op.

If after 4 weeks they've been hanging out extensively and its going nowhere then there's definitely something else going on. My suspicion is she's waiting for him to man-up, and she potentially just gave up out of frustration, or at least is on the verge of doing so. Still, its hard to really guage without more detail.

I come at this having just started dating a girl I met from POF who tells me she's "a bit old fashioned". 2 dates in the past week, I'd hardly made the slightest move to touch her. Something I've been discussing with Jackzero. Here's the thing, I've gone into wallflower mode before with women I've seen potential LTR with...sometimes for weeks and the attraction remained high as when things became sexual it'd get real, fast. So this whole needing to sexually escalate quickly, for LTR anyway - I am not convinced its really the rule.

In fact I'll argue that it can potentially be debilitating. A guy pushing himself to be sexual is creating all sorts of anxiety - its already there, its already awkward the fact two strangers who know relatively little about each other are hanging out, often for prolonged periods of time. And I am saying this out of experience, abliet MY experience. BUT I also know for these women I have a LOT of value - physically, mentally, psychologically and I have an extremely easy time connecting to them, and being vulnerable with them which is probably one of the ways the attraction maintains or possibly even builds. I am also a lot of fun, and they're always in antipication for the next hangout. Eventually I get under their skin like a fungus - even my last Ex can't stay away appearing every 2-5 months since we were done a year and a half ago "its so fucking annoying every morning I wakeup you're stuck in my head!".

I don't know, its definitely grey not black and white. That said, 4 weeks with multiple 6+ hour hangouts I'd expect something more than hot steamy make out sessions to have occurred. I am only a week and some change in, 2 dates ... I definitely don't expect a month to go by where there's no sex - at least that's never been the case with me.


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My suspicion is she's waiting for him to man-up, and she potentially just gave up out of frustration
I'd say that's accurate.

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So this whole needing to sexually escalate quickly, for LTR anyway - I am not convinced its really the rule.
I don't think it matters. Two people are either hot for each other, or not.

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In fact I'll argue that it can potentially be debilitating. A guy pushing himself to be sexual is creating all sorts of anxiety - its already there, its already awkward the fact two strangers who know relatively little about each other are hanging out,
This is exactly what I try to take advantage of. Anxiety is tension, and the situation can be really intense. Women love to be fucked by a new dick. This is part of it, the strangeness, the unknown.

And yes, it can certainly scare girls away. But they always come back. In one instance I had a girl in my bed the first night with crazy sex. She did not text me for two months, and the first text she sent me was a partial nude in a forest, then asked if she could come over. She later told me she'd never been with a dominant man in bed before, and it scared her off.

I feel, personally, that creating intense, exciting moments that either end weirdly or positively lay the seeds for future enticement. I would rather crash and burn on night one, then have a series of friend dates.

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My suspicion is she's waiting for him to man-up, and she potentially just gave up out of frustration
I'd say that's accurate.

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So this whole needing to sexually escalate quickly, for LTR anyway - I am not convinced its really the rule.
I don't think it matters. Two people are either hot for each other, or not.

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In fact I'll argue that it can potentially be debilitating. A guy pushing himself to be sexual is creating all sorts of anxiety - its already there, its already awkward the fact two strangers who know relatively little about each other are hanging out,
This is exactly what I try to take advantage of. Anxiety is tension, and the situation can be really intense. Women love to be fucked by a new dick. This is part of it, the strangeness, the unknown.

And yes, it can certainly scare girls away. But they always come back. In one instance I had a girl in my bed the first night with crazy sex. She did not text me for two months, and the first text she sent me was a partial nude in a forest, then asked if she could come over. She later told me she'd never been with a dominant man in bed before, and it scared her off.

I feel, personally, that creating intense, exciting moments that either end weirdly or positively lay the seeds for future enticement. I would rather crash and burn on night one, then have a series of friend dates.

That's not the same for a guy creating anxiety for himself, where the anxiety would actually contribute to a lack of confidence around women as he gauges how he's 'performing' moment-to-moment by how he perceives her responses to his overtures.


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Long over due update: I gave her oral and I decided not to see her again because she wasn't over her ex.


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