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Oh and be slightly more distant than her! Make her wait and work a bit


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yes, this girls means a lot to me, and i am not in love (thank god). i could forgive her, but she has to work for it (otherwise she would not appreciate me). now she knows that i can dump her anytime she fucks up.

the revange thing... c'mon i woulndt waste my time on such things. and i am considerng getting back with her if she really works for it (meaning she wants it). otherwise, moving on.

gtdave, i see your point, you are thinking exactly like i do? i don't know if its good or bad though.

Rough Operator, can you be more exact on what you suggest i should do?

apocalyptica, i really dont know weather i am a rebound bf or not. could be. i would have to wait and see her reactions.



she has a really thight inner game.

she never said "i love you", and this text message...it was only "loved ya" in a text message.

besides there was this chat convo with her best friend where she said that i may not be the perfect for her, but she doesnt know yet.


just now she sent me a long email, some quotes:

"Hi my [my nickname]

I am not trying to change smng or “turn back”, yesterday was kind of telling a lot I guess for both of us, very sad.

“my slight lie to you” about meeting my ex…I could not tell you just because I didn’t meet you since than. Sorry!

why you don’t have pictures with me on FB? Why you didn’t ask me to change status as in relationships with you?

And if you have an idea that I still keep alive relationships with Ex, that just put fact in front of you; when possibly I could have time for this if I spent so much time of mine with you, all friends were secondary and very rarely I was prioritizing them instead of you. I spend all weekend in bed next to you being like in dream because of good feeling..[it is true BTW]

as conclusion want to let you know that I was really happy to know you, you are first person ever with whom I felt so free and myself…really, like in free flight, you made real me to become alive again after long time when my personality was “pushed down” with tries to change me. I saw in you so many positives and meaning full lines(for me) collected in one person, simply saw myself in you. I am really grateful I met you on the way of my life line, now I know that there exists somebody who is like “I was searching for long”, sadly destiny planned different. But I want to say thank you for all I learned from you, for all what made me better because of sharing 70% of my time with you in last ½ year. I got really deep feelings for you and feel like very much belonging to you, hope it will go away soon.

Please be more patient or talk to people before act. It will help to solve many cases before it is too late.

kisses to my [my nickname]."



WTF now?? What do I do now? Does she really want to forget me? Does she really want to get over me? Or is she just playing? What do I do now???
Mate she probably took a hour or 2 to think of what to write, its obvious that the girl likes you, but as i said on a previous comment, He has been in her life for 4 years, they might have had to meet to give things back to one another, or just to chat.
If you dont trust her 100% fuck her off, i wouldnt be with a girl if i didnt trust them BUT, if you claim you are not in love with her... 'forgive her' And just bang the shit outta her

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yeah, i did meet her and we discussed everything as i wrote a few comments above in detail. now the thing is that during that emotional turmoil and "discussion of things" she said said "i love you" but never again since.

i also told her that and i told her that i want her to repeat it the following day to make me beleive it.

but she never said it again since.

i also didnt say "i love you" since, even tho we spent the whole weekend together.


any advice? did she mean it? how do i make her say it more? do i just wait for her to say it again (meaning i wouldnt say it till she says it again)?

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yeah, i did meet her and we discussed everything as i wrote a few comments above in detail. now the thing is that during that emotional turmoil and "discussion of things" she said said "i love you" but never again since.

i also told her that and i told her that i want her to repeat it the following day to make me beleive it.

but she never said it again since.

i also didnt say "i love you" since, even tho we spent the whole weekend together.


any advice? did she mean it? how do i make her say it more? do i just wait for her to say it again (meaning i wouldnt say it till she says it again)?
It's not an easy thing for some people to make, I'm sure she did mean it. Don't try and make her say it again, it comes across as a bit needy. If it's hard for her to say it, then she probably did mean it.


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dude, kinda liked how you did it, atleast she knows she can't fuck with you any more.

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Since now you are more in relationship mode and less PUA...check out books like "Nonviolent communication". This is a good book for all aspects of life when it comes to communication with others such as the workplace, relationships, etc.

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ISSUE1: during that emotional turmoil (5 days ago) and "discussion of things" she said said "i love you" but never again since. i also told her that i want her to repeat it the following day to make me beleive it. but she never said it again since.

i also didnt say "i love you" since, even tho we spent the whole weekend together. i m not sure she ment it.

ISSUE2: after the breakup we agreed on that she wont meet her ex again, and that she will remove those photos of him from facebook. (i agreed that we ll talk more if anything comes up and that we ll be a facebook officail couple but i havent done it waiting for her to remove her ex's pics).

now she was at home yesterday all night fucking around on facebook, updating cover and profile pictures, ect. but she DID NOT remove the pics i asked her to. this says a lot. if she cannot do this small thing, i cannot expect that she keeps herself away from her ex (which is the main thing we agreed on).

now i can wether
a) wait
b) next time we meet, bring this topic up agian (super needy)
c) a friend of mine has a photo of me and my ex from 2010 kissing like crazy. its kinda buried so noone knows it exists. i can ask him to tag me on it so my GF would see it on my timeline (i find it a bit childish).
d) freezout?
e) anything else?


i know i was too fast on letting her back in my life. i know i shouldn't have told her "i love you" that fast right when she said it... but


HOW do i solve these 2 issues? please help


MagicCaveman: thanks a lot! its a masterpiece, i ve just finished the inner game section. i m trying to focus on that one, not the pickups for now.

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I might be wrong but I don't believe games should be played in relationships! I think it's actually more alpha to just be upfront and if stuff isn't resolved then walk again...! Remember your the prize...she's risking losing you but I sense you have the opposite mentality (which I totally understand).

I'd ask to meet (in a happy way)! Before you meet I'd change your Facebook status to in a relationship and upload a few photos of her. After all that was one of her concerns also!

Meet her and straight up ask has she removed the photos ect! Because you have done your bit she will have a hard time not living up to her side of the deal! I'm guessing she will say ohh I haven't had time yet (bullshit).

Don't bring up that you where checking...give it a few days and if she hasnt done it then freeze her the fuck out hard!!

Never ever forget that a girls actions speak louder than words! If she won't remove them then there is a big reason


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Try and add as many girls as you can.


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Ok, what I did today was basically a push, a freezout. Yes, a game in a relationship. I also added 3 girls on FB that I didnt add before but I know them. Then she texted me at night, which I ignored. I dont think she gets the hint tho. I want the issues to be solved.

So the issues still remain, please give me your hones advice:

ISSUE1: during that emotional turmoil (6 days ago) and "discussion of things" she said said "i love you" but never again since. i also told her that i want her to repeat it the following day to make me beleive it. but she never said it again since.

i also didnt say "i love you" since, even tho we spent the whole weekend together. i m not sure she ment it.

ISSUE2: after the breakup we agreed on that she wont meet her ex again, and that she will remove those photos of him from facebook. (i agreed that we ll talk more if anything comes up and that we ll be a facebook official couple but i havent done it waiting for her to remove her ex's pics).

now she was at home 2 days ago all night fucking around on facebook, updating cover and profile pictures, ect. (she also had the chance to do that today) BUT she DID NOT remove the pics i asked her to. this says a lot. if she cannot do this small thing, i cannot expect that she keeps herself away from her ex (which is the main thing we agreed on).

now i can wether
a) wait
b) next time we meet, bring this topic up agian (super needy)
c) a friend of mine has a photo of me and my ex from 2010 kissing like crazy. its kinda buried so noone knows it exists. i can ask him to tag me on it so my GF would see it on my timeline (i find it a bit childish).
d) freezout?
e) anything else?


i know i was too fast on letting her back in my life. i know i shouldn't have told her "i love you" that fast right when she said it... i was trying to fix this by ignoring her today... BUT


HOW do i solve these 2 issues?

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Personally I think the games are a bad move! I'd just straight up ask her about the photos! You get your answer without days of bullshit and second guessing! If she doesn't remove them then you walk and dont turn back!

This method your doing will cause you more pain than her especially if she is still thinking about her ex!

There's nothing beta about bringing up an issue head on!


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wow ur a fucking sucker for love man, ima be straight up with you, your being played by this girl lol and shes good at it. Its a simple trick i fucked up, get caught, act all emotional and tell you the things you want to here, you come back to me, and after knowing i got you i keep doing the same bullshit i was doing previously before.

The first red flag was the picture of her ex on her Facebook, obviously she still have feelings for the guy. i understand how you might not feel comfortable about her having her ex picture all over your Facebook, i mean your not gaming the girl your in a relationship with her. that's a clear sign of disrespect in my book.

Second shes still talking to this guy and seeing him behind your back once she did that i would already be planning a date or gaming another girl cause my relationship with her would be over. I have certain standards and rules i fellow when it come to relationship, they are Honesty, Trust, loyalty, and respect. Once one is cross the relationship is over.

Last you feel for her alligator tears, she only said she love you because she wants you back not that she really means it and the fact that you started crying with her that was weak bro lol but i feel you, sometimes you cant help it.

All im saying is just think about what your doing with this girl, is she worth the heartache(no shes not)
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ok, i wanted to know the truth... so i hacked into her facebook (dont judge this, at least i won't have sleepless nights, now i know things... don't have to guess so much). there was this conversation from yesterday, kinda summerizes all:

friend of hers:are you happy?
my GF: i am fine, we are still in touch with him (my ex)
friend of hers: thats good..
my GF: and who knows what tomorrow wil bring
friend of hers: thats a very good thing..
my GF: we were thinkig maybe one day we will try again, maybe not

this is bad enough on one side. also, you don't just suddenly start to think of "trying again", you have to meet (fuck?) that person a few times to come to that conclusion.

on the other hand, if i was an ex BF and this girl would be telling me "maybe one day we can try again, maybe not", i would immediately look for another girl. what does everyone suggest to guys like this on this forum? girl saying, maybe one day we can be together again? pfff

than there was this other message where she messaged some dude. this guy is from a neighboring country (2 hours aways from here) they met at an airport some months ago (he is single). my GF asked if they wanna could hang out, or she and her friends (NOT ME) could go and visit him. she asked if she was still together with some girl (but his profile clearly says that he is single).

direct communication does not work, she lies. we have to think outside the box.

i'm not going crazy or anything, i just don't think its a lost battle. also, all the girls are like this, she is probably not worse than any other.

all input is greatly appreciated!

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Come on bro, how could you think that it's not a lost battle? Not only does she fuck her ex, but she wants to fuck other guys. Is this really the type of girl you want to be in a relationship with? and you really think all girls are like this?

Do yourself a favour and get a reality check. REread this whole thread and then tell me that you still think you can build something sincere with her. Remember why you became a PUA in the first place...so you don't settle for less!! SHE IS LESS!!!

Start gaming other girls. Keep fucking her if you want. Don't jeopardize your character for this slut. I've been reading your relationship threads and I can tell you're an alpha and a fair person, if you keep trying to be with her, you are putting your inner game at risk and might end up weaker, hurt, and maybe even damaged for your next relationship.

Remember, she did not tell you I love you again, she did not delete those photos, she did not stop seeing her ex. She is still lieing to you and planning to fuck other guys. Don't lose your self respect by chasing her. Maybe consider an open relationship, FB, or just move on. Whatever you think will work for you best.


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