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 Post subject: Dont Know What to Do
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:08 am 
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Dear Mack,

I have been in a long term relationship for 11 months. I have had LTR's with other women before but, I have never been so close to anyone than I have with her. We both go to the same college and have multiple classes together. We met in another class we had together last year. During this time I was practicing pua and getting with lots of women however she stood out from them all. She was just different than all those other girls and had nearly everything I wanted in a significant other. Don't get me wrong she isn't perfect, no woman is, but she is just genuinely a great individual.

The first 9 months of our relationship was the most intimate experience ive ever had. I have grown up so much as a person being with her and ive had a deep impact on her life as well. The last couple of months however I have starting getting tired of her and I feel anxiety about the whole relationship. Several factors have put added stress on me. First my friends dont really like her and she doesnt like my friends. I've tried to keep these two aspects of my life separate but its becoming difficult. Second school has been really tough for her this year. It seems like most of the time now she is stressed and just in a bad mood. I try to be happy but its hard when youre with someone who complains about their life.

I am unhappy in my relationship but I cant make myself breakup with her. I know she is going through rough times but I cant deal with it much longer. I just want the old her. I am afraid of the future too. I'm afraid that I might change my mind after breaking up with her. Also I have three classes with her so I dont want things to be awkward if I end it. She has an amazing family as well, something I never had. The worst part is I know I would be hurting her by ending it. I am the love of her life and she always tells me im the best person she has ever met. I have a really good relationship with her brother too who looks up to me like a role model.

I have a severe case of one-itis and need some sense knocked into me

-Jc


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Dear Mack,

I have been in a long term relationship for 11 months. I have had LTR's with other women before but, I have never been so close to anyone than I have with her. We both go to the same college and have multiple classes together. We met in another class we had together last year. During this time I was practicing pua and getting with lots of women however she stood out from them all. She was just different than all those other girls and had nearly everything I wanted in a significant other. Don't get me wrong she isn't perfect, no woman is, but she is just genuinely a great individual.

The first 9 months of our relationship was the most intimate experience ive ever had. I have grown up so much as a person being with her and ive had a deep impact on her life as well. The last couple of months however I have starting getting tired of her and I feel anxiety about the whole relationship. Several factors have put added stress on me. First my friends dont really like her and she doesnt like my friends. I've tried to keep these two aspects of my life separate but its becoming difficult. Second school has been really tough for her this year. It seems like most of the time now she is stressed and just in a bad mood. I try to be happy but its hard when youre with someone who complains about their life.

I am unhappy in my relationship but I cant make myself breakup with her. I know she is going through rough times but I cant deal with it much longer. I just want the old her. I am afraid of the future too. I'm afraid that I might change my mind after breaking up with her. Also I have three classes with her so I dont want things to be awkward if I end it. She has an amazing family as well, something I never had. The worst part is I know I would be hurting her by ending it. I am the love of her life and she always tells me im the best person she has ever met. I have a really good relationship with her brother too who looks up to me like a role model.

I have a severe case of one-itis and need some sense knocked into me

-Jc
first of all, let me say "thanks" for the detailed and complete story!

ok, let's get down to business here.

(i read your story in detail)

you stated that "the last couple of months, however, i have started getting tired of her and i feel anxiety about the whole relationship"

... this is something that we need to examine closer.

are you getting tired of her BECAUSE you feel anxiety about the relationship?

or

are you feeling anxiety about the relationship BECAUSE you are tired of her?

which came first? (like the chicken and the egg) please think carefully about this before you answer.

tell me, why don't your friends like her?

also, why doesn't she like your friends?

(give me some details about this part of the situation as i believe it will add some important insights)

more questions...

- "why" has this year been really tough on her? (supposedly) give me her reasons, or whatever her issues are, list them as she would say them

- explain her "bad moods" a bit, what is she like? what does she do? say? or not do? say? etc.....

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Mac, I've got some pretty bad inner-game issues going on here and need to find a cure for this shit... I'm always putting this woman as a #1 in my life it sucks. She's my ex, she broke up with me over a year ago, I consider her my first girlfriend, hell she was, we dated for 6 months they hands down the best 6 months of my life.

Of course there were other women before her I hooked up with at parties, or some random girls I met at a ski resort or disneyland.. you get the picture. I like to think I'm fantastic with picking up girls, probably one of my many natural talents and people ask me for advice all the time. Also there were a handful of girls after her I tried dating, I got them dated them, felt absolutely nothing for the girls. Don't get me wrong they were wonderful women all going somewhere in life all beautiful, but not one kept me interested and I never fell for them you could say. I have always had something for my ex though, no matter what I loved her and still do.

Anyways back to this ex of mine, after 7 months of zero communication we see each other one night, she had just been broken up with that same morning and she comes over, simple movie and we talk for 5 straight hours on my bed, most we did was makeout for an hour or two until the morning came and she had to get off to work. Right off the bat we spend everyday together, first week we have sex.. best damn sex of my life too.. and I can assure you hers as well. We still spent everyday together just catching up and I realize I've fallen for her again, she's on my mind all the time, I'm thinking of "our future together" and shes all lovey dovie too. this lasts for a good two months, each day I become more and more in love with her. Then it starts going downhill, she starts becoming less interested. and me being a person blinded by love, I try to pull her back and she just gets pissed at every little thing I do.
We stop talking for a week because, she wants to be "friends that kiss and hug, but not friends with benefits, and doesn't want a relationship from me" She tells me, I'm not good boyfriend material pretty much, said I'm amazing at sex it's just I seem inexperienced regarding LTRs.
Well after a week of NC she hits me up saying, I'm a good person in her life, bla bla bla and she wont deny BEING FRIENDS.
Hell no, I can't settle for just being friends, I'll always have a desire for more with her. I don't tell her this.
So we hangout "as friends" she pretty much throws herself on me on my bed and we kiss. WTF I'm thinking to myself, she told me 10 min ago we can't kiss... So I'm like w/e and let this play out. It gets worse...
We see each other MAYBE once a week when its convenient for her, and you can just forget about texting or calling she wont reply to any of those with much enthusiasm or promptly like she did when we were fucking.. I took her to the movies about a week and a half ago had a good dinner... madeout with her, she tells me she had a wonderful time we should do it again.. and starts ignoring the shit out of me again.
Oh and facebook isn't even the list anymore she blocked me after I asked her about a post that seemed like it went with our situation, pretty much saying there's a reason you're not in my life. She swore it wasn't about me, but she can make it about me. Then goes and says you need to stop being self centered not everything I do is about you... You can just leave me alone right now I've been really busy with work.
So we haven't talked in a about a week now, cause I'm respecting her telling me she'll contact me and for me to not bug her.

I'm not asking on how to get her back, it's just some simple NC, reconnecting and being aloof and kino here and there until she wants me again.
I want to know how can I change myself into good boyfriend material? I'd say I get clingy and jealous towards her, but seriously it's cause she's on my 10 list making a lot of guys try and get with her.
Like I said before, when this happens I unintentionally make her #1 in my life. So how can I change my inner game so I'm more of a good boyfriend not just some guy good at a lay here and there. I also feel if she notices something with me has changed, I could end up with her for a long while, I just don't know what needs to change.


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Mac, I've got some pretty bad inner-game issues going on here and need to find a cure for this shit... I'm always putting this woman as a #1 in my life it sucks. She's my ex, she broke up with me over a year ago, I consider her my first girlfriend, hell she was, we dated for 6 months they hands down the best 6 months of my life.

Of course there were other women before her I hooked up with at parties, or some random girls I met at a ski resort or disneyland.. you get the picture. I like to think I'm fantastic with picking up girls, probably one of my many natural talents and people ask me for advice all the time. Also there were a handful of girls after her I tried dating, I got them dated them, felt absolutely nothing for the girls. Don't get me wrong they were wonderful women all going somewhere in life all beautiful, but not one kept me interested and I never fell for them you could say. I have always had something for my ex though, no matter what I loved her and still do.

Anyways back to this ex of mine, after 7 months of zero communication we see each other one night, she had just been broken up with that same morning and she comes over, simple movie and we talk for 5 straight hours on my bed, most we did was makeout for an hour or two until the morning came and she had to get off to work. Right off the bat we spend everyday together, first week we have sex.. best damn sex of my life too.. and I can assure you hers as well. We still spent everyday together just catching up and I realize I've fallen for her again, she's on my mind all the time, I'm thinking of "our future together" and shes all lovey dovie too. this lasts for a good two months, each day I become more and more in love with her. Then it starts going downhill, she starts becoming less interested. and me being a person blinded by love, I try to pull her back and she just gets pissed at every little thing I do.
We stop talking for a week because, she wants to be "friends that kiss and hug, but not friends with benefits, and doesn't want a relationship from me" She tells me, I'm not good boyfriend material pretty much, said I'm amazing at sex it's just I seem inexperienced regarding LTRs.
Well after a week of NC she hits me up saying, I'm a good person in her life, bla bla bla and she wont deny BEING FRIENDS.
Hell no, I can't settle for just being friends, I'll always have a desire for more with her. I don't tell her this.
So we hangout "as friends" she pretty much throws herself on me on my bed and we kiss. WTF I'm thinking to myself, she told me 10 min ago we can't kiss... So I'm like w/e and let this play out. It gets worse...
We see each other MAYBE once a week when its convenient for her, and you can just forget about texting or calling she wont reply to any of those with much enthusiasm or promptly like she did when we were fucking.. I took her to the movies about a week and a half ago had a good dinner... madeout with her, she tells me she had a wonderful time we should do it again.. and starts ignoring the shit out of me again.
Oh and facebook isn't even the list anymore she blocked me after I asked her about a post that seemed like it went with our situation, pretty much saying there's a reason you're not in my life. She swore it wasn't about me, but she can make it about me. Then goes and says you need to stop being self centered not everything I do is about you... You can just leave me alone right now I've been really busy with work.
So we haven't talked in a about a week now, cause I'm respecting her telling me she'll contact me and for me to not bug her.

I'm not asking on how to get her back, it's just some simple NC, reconnecting and being aloof and kino here and there until she wants me again.
I want to know how can I change myself into good boyfriend material? I'd say I get clingy and jealous towards her, but seriously it's cause she's on my 10 list making a lot of guys try and get with her.
Like I said before, when this happens I unintentionally make her #1 in my life. So how can I change my inner game so I'm more of a good boyfriend not just some guy good at a lay here and there. I also feel if she notices something with me has changed, I could end up with her for a long while, I just don't know what needs to change.
i read your post, in depth, three times.

and all i can say is three things:

- you have one of the worst cases of one-itis i've ever witnessed
- you have massive inner-game issues
- you have no self-respect

i'm serious. i'm not even trying to be an asshole. i don't want to say this to you, but it just is true. i challenge anyone else to read your post and NOT come to the same conclusion.

are you "aware" how fucked up your behavior is concerning this girl?

is it that you are not aware?
is it that you are aware and just don't care?
or, is it that you are aware and just can't stop yourself?


which of the three?

answer the bolded question(s) and then i can maybe offer some advice.

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and all i can say is three things:

- you have one of the worst cases of one-itis i've ever witnessed
- you have massive inner-game issues
- you have no self-respect
I agree with all three of these. I don't know were to begin with my issues.

I'm well aware my behavior is outright ridiculousness, it's why she running away as fast as she fucking can probably. I just have no clue how to stop this kind of behavior. So the third
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or, is it that you are aware and just can't stop yourself?


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elo mack!

been going out with my girlfriend a little while, just under a year. she rarely does things that get me pissed. tho 3-4 years ago back at high school she's got with a few of my friends. now this really doesnt bother me, everyone has pasts. i wouldnt be with her if it did bother me. anyway i told her i don't want to know about it when she bought it up in conversation once. however yestarday we were talking about something that happened a while ago and she bought up; "around the same time she was seeing [guy i know]".

now it doesnt bother me that this stuff ever happened it just annoys me that she brings it up pointlessly in conversation. this is the first time shes done it since i told her not to. she said it on the phone and i instantly said i had to go and ive been ignoring her since.

am i doing the right thing by ignoring her until she realises shes done somthing to piss me off then when she asks me whats up i tell her straight or should i have told her straight up again?


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Mac, I've got some pretty bad inner-game issues going on here and need to find a cure for this shit... I'm always putting this woman as a #1 in my life it sucks. She's my ex, she broke up with me over a year ago, I consider her my first girlfriend, hell she was, we dated for 6 months they hands down the best 6 months of my life.

Of course there were other women before her I hooked up with at parties, or some random girls I met at a ski resort or disneyland.. you get the picture. I like to think I'm fantastic with picking up girls, probably one of my many natural talents and people ask me for advice all the time. Also there were a handful of girls after her I tried dating, I got them dated them, felt absolutely nothing for the girls. Don't get me wrong they were wonderful women all going somewhere in life all beautiful, but not one kept me interested and I never fell for them you could say. I have always had something for my ex though, no matter what I loved her and still do.

Anyways back to this ex of mine, after 7 months of zero communication we see each other one night, she had just been broken up with that same morning and she comes over, simple movie and we talk for 5 straight hours on my bed, most we did was makeout for an hour or two until the morning came and she had to get off to work. Right off the bat we spend everyday together, first week we have sex.. best damn sex of my life too.. and I can assure you hers as well. We still spent everyday together just catching up and I realize I've fallen for her again, she's on my mind all the time, I'm thinking of "our future together" and shes all lovey dovie too. this lasts for a good two months, each day I become more and more in love with her. Then it starts going downhill, she starts becoming less interested. and me being a person blinded by love, I try to pull her back and she just gets pissed at every little thing I do.
We stop talking for a week because, she wants to be "friends that kiss and hug, but not friends with benefits, and doesn't want a relationship from me" She tells me, I'm not good boyfriend material pretty much, said I'm amazing at sex it's just I seem inexperienced regarding LTRs.
Well after a week of NC she hits me up saying, I'm a good person in her life, bla bla bla and she wont deny BEING FRIENDS.
Hell no, I can't settle for just being friends, I'll always have a desire for more with her. I don't tell her this.
So we hangout "as friends" she pretty much throws herself on me on my bed and we kiss. WTF I'm thinking to myself, she told me 10 min ago we can't kiss... So I'm like w/e and let this play out. It gets worse...
We see each other MAYBE once a week when its convenient for her, and you can just forget about texting or calling she wont reply to any of those with much enthusiasm or promptly like she did when we were fucking.. I took her to the movies about a week and a half ago had a good dinner... madeout with her, she tells me she had a wonderful time we should do it again.. and starts ignoring the shit out of me again.
Oh and facebook isn't even the list anymore she blocked me after I asked her about a post that seemed like it went with our situation, pretty much saying there's a reason you're not in my life. She swore it wasn't about me, but she can make it about me. Then goes and says you need to stop being self centered not everything I do is about you... You can just leave me alone right now I've been really busy with work.
So we haven't talked in a about a week now, cause I'm respecting her telling me she'll contact me and for me to not bug her.

I'm not asking on how to get her back, it's just some simple NC, reconnecting and being aloof and kino here and there until she wants me again.
I want to know how can I change myself into good boyfriend material? I'd say I get clingy and jealous towards her, but seriously it's cause she's on my 10 list making a lot of guys try and get with her.
Like I said before, when this happens I unintentionally make her #1 in my life. So how can I change my inner game so I'm more of a good boyfriend not just some guy good at a lay here and there. I also feel if she notices something with me has changed, I could end up with her for a long while, I just don't know what needs to change.
Dude, im in the exact same situation, but worse. You know.. shit.

I dated this girl for 8 months, all of the 8 months I thought of her constantly, while SHE WAS fucking other people. I am not kidding, she did it, I knew it, I told her about it, she said nothing about it, I got really chumpy about it but just wouldnt stop letting her in my life and knocking on her door in hers. After 8 months she broke up with me, and I started working on my inner game. After 2 months she gets back to me and then starts the story that looks exactly like yours. She's my friend one second, girlfirend the next, and like, worst enemy the third. It gets completely out of control and I wont get in too deep about what happened but she continued cheating on me and I lost my inner game, or forgot about it. I sort of thought that I could change her and started calling her like 1 time a day playing her therapist. I actually drew up pictures, like, minmaps of what she had told me to figure out what I needed to fix with her. (I know, this is insane)

She broke up again. I was devastated again. She went abroad, and I did too for some reason. Didnt like to think it was because of her, but oh, what do you know, after like 1 month of travveling she starts to mail me again telling me she wants to come with me. And here my friend, you'll get chills.

I meet her up in her new apartment abroad. We chat, hold hands and look for stuff to take with her on our travels. She wants to say goodbye to her friends "first" and we have a party. What do you know, suddenly a dude turns up and they are totally together. I mean, the hold hands, look at eachother sexy and in front of me they are telling eachother stuff that you know. Are totally sex-related in their own flirty way.

The last day, I sleep in her bed while she's at his house giving him a blowjob. How do I know? Because when I was at her apartment (she lived with a friend) her friend got a Text from the guy she dated who said something that I wont go in to detail, but it was obvious that he in his own PUA-way bragged about her totally pleasing him. Maybe not PUA, I didnt get to know him that well. Actually he was kind of a dickface. He talked to people in a way that made them feel sort of bad, but maybe it was just me. I dont knwo. It doesnt matter. She slept at his place anyway.

The next day, she sais she wants to stay, and I leave, alone.

The next couple of months theres not a lot of contact between us, besides from a couple of emails she sends to me. Until, like, a month ago. She sends me this weird mail where she sais she is sorry becuase obviously she has been "manipulating me" (thats what she said). I totally fell for her again, responded and what happenes next after my reply? She breaks up with me. We havent seen eachother for like 5 months, we had sex one time at her apartment abroad, and we kissed when we said goodbye. But after that no contact for like 5 months, and she tells me she is sorry, I reply, and she breaks up with me. I may have been forgotten about myself in my replys. Probably, I dont know. I sent her long emails and it felt right in the short term but after a couple of days of no answer I got the guilt and sended a new one, and a new one, and a new one and so on.

Ive been on a emotional rollercoaster since, and am pretty much fucked in the head about this. I dont know what to make of it, one second I feel one thing, the other some other thing. And the thoughts? They are the same. One second I think something was my fault, then the other something was her fault.

She didn't respond to me for like 2 months after she broke up, so I ended my frequent emailing her with telling her the same thing. I agreed with the break up. At first, I felt great. I thought that we were agreed and that felt a lot better than before where i had to try to figure out what she was thinking. But now, I am almost afraid of that she will get back to me again which seems logical when Ive agreed with her breakup. I can totally imagine her feeling guilty right now (I feel it) but I also feel very confused and I have been thinking alot about what someone said here. If "she feels it, you feel it" or if it was vice versa. If that is true, it is only a matter of time before she gets back to me again.

Theres only one solution I have found for this extremely anonying "disease" and it is focusing on other stuff. You cant think "I wont think about her" cause if you do that your mind will automaticlly think about her. You have to just let the thoughts and feelings about her come and go, and dedicate yourself to focus on stuff that makes you feel good right here and right now. Like, women that are sexier than her, or career, or money, or whatever. It is obvious that she is poision and you need to avoid her at all cost. This would probably attract her (if you do it right) but you need to have self respect and don't buy her bullshit again because she is in reality not good for you. Focus on other stuff and just, avoid her because she is poision.

Other stuff you can do is forgive yourself and her for whatever stupid shit that might invade your mind. Or be mindful about it. Think of it as what it is. Thoughts. Its not you that made her a sandwich the wrong way (or whatever she has been telling you that you do wrong). It is a thought. And it is the past. IF you think about it that way, that might help you get through this.

And about the self-respect. I think you need to step up. Either you break up with her because you obviously are being completely toyed around. Or you just erase her from your life and dedicate your time to focusing on other stuff. You cant keep on this game of letting her control your life. Think of it as a battlefield. You simply can not win the war by trying to "win" the relationship with her, in other words, sending her emails critizising her or whatever you do to "win her back". Neither can you surrender since that makes you depressed.

You have to just Let it be in some way. Im not sure, I havent learned enough already from my experience. Im strugling with this everyday.


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now it doesnt bother me that this stuff ever happened it just annoys me that she brings it up pointlessly in conversation. this is the first time shes done it since i told her not to. she said it on the phone and i instantly said i had to go and ive been ignoring her since.
She brings it up because she is testing you and informing you about it .. this is ok... you are responsible for your own experience.. if you get jealous then it's your issue. if you have a solid relationship you can bring this issue up .. just tell her it irritates you because you don't want to talk about that shit. again you need credible and sincere reasons in order to give someone some rules, if it's just a ego thing then do not do it.

again .. it's never pointless .. everything that is said does have a reason or meaning to it.. it's your job ( if you want to ) to find out what that meaning really is... The right thing ? when she brings it up again just tell her straight on you are not going to talk about that shit -suddenly you got important things to do and you need to leave... simple shit... woman will sense it and they will know you are unsatisfied and indifferent.

Ps read your message again .. it does have some mixed signals and contradiction - be objective

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Mac, I've got some pretty bad inner-game issues going on here and need to find a cure for this shit... I'm always putting this woman as a #1 in my life it sucks. She's my ex, she broke up with me over a year ago, I consider her my first girlfriend, hell she was, we dated for 6 months they hands down the best 6 months of my life.
forget about the woman .. focus a 100 % on your issues .. every thought about the past is a waste of time. Almost everything is a perspective issue - if it's not a perspective issue then it still is a perspective or inner game issue....

when i read guy their messages about their ex-girlfriends they give all these useless information about how long they have been together and how great it was...it's about your inner game - the future is influenced by the present moment.. the NOW is more important than the past.. '' im always putting someone #1 in my life''

guess what.. you should have put yourself number one from the say you were born. guys ask questions and at the same time they shoot themselfs in the foot by talking '' how great it was '' etc .. what do you want to solve here ? the past or the present ? Look maybe it was great .. but if you would met another person it would be '' her'' you see where im going ? it's always a perspective issue...

guys don't need solutions.. they just have lied to themself for so long just to get a girlfriend , attention or sex and now it's a consisten behaviour pattern which is stuck in their minds - its a ego thing and when you read their replies you immediatly see it they have been lying to themselfs for a long long time. Guys need the truth... Save yourself the over-analytical waste of time - just look where you are lying to yourself and where you are having reality / perspective issues.

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now it doesnt bother me that this stuff ever happened it just annoys me that she brings it up pointlessly in conversation. this is the first time shes done it since i told her not to. she said it on the phone and i instantly said i had to go and ive been ignoring her since.
She brings it up because she is testing you and informing you about it .. this is ok... you are responsible for your own experience.. if you get jealous then it's your issue. if you have a solid relationship you can bring this issue up .. just tell her it irritates you because you don't want to talk about that shit. again you need credible and sincere reasons in order to give someone some rules, if it's just a ego thing then do not do it.

again .. it's never pointless .. everything that is said does have a reason or meaning to it.. it's your job ( if you want to ) to find out what that meaning really is.

Ps read your message again .. it does have some mixed signals and contradiction - be objective
thanks for the reply. the reason why i dont want to hear it is because the people she has got with in the past are some of my close friends. i know what your thinking, you think im being insecure about it. but i knew this before i started going out with her it's just i asked her not to bring it up anymore as its pointless, u dont need to be discussing a past story and then say "oh that was around the time i was getting with [insert friends name here]". that's understandable right?


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i know what your thinking, you think im being insecure about it.
no .. i want you te be honest about it .. i want to make sure it's not a 90 or 100 % jealousy or insecurity.. ive been pissed in the past about girls talking about their exes or other guys in general.. i always cut off the topic, tell them to shut the fuck up... or i immediatly left..

it's a huge turn off in general when your GF talks about another '' guy''... tell her you are turned off by it, if she brings it up... and if she keeps doing it just capture her on not respecting your boundaries.

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You have to just Let it be in some way. Im not sure, I havent learned enough already from my experience. Im strugling with this everyday
one tip .. pay attention to your subconcious.. write down what you are dreaming occasionally.. write every dream or automatic thought down in a notebook. If you strugle with something you are missing the conciousness or awareness , it would be good for you to meditate. If you still miss out on the concious part pay attention to the subconcious. im not being new age here .. psychologist treat dreams as gold.. they contain alot of psychological messages and symptoms of issues. Be open to using new ways of solving or diagnosing issues...

i recommend you to read something about carl jung..

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i know what your thinking, you think im being insecure about it.
no .. i want you te be honest about it .. i want to make sure it's not a 90 or 100 % jealousy or insecurity.. ive been pissed in the past about girls talking about their exes or other guys in general.. i always cut off the topic, tell them to shut the fuck up... or i immediatly left..

it's a huge turn off in general when your GF talks about another '' guy''... tell her you are turned off by it, if she brings it up.
yeh thats basically what i do everytime she does. it really is a turn off i dont wanna hear it. but ive now ignored her for a day and shes txt me and stuff. would it be best to confront her about it or just let her earn my attention back telling her im busy and stuff


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did you tell her straight on you were turned of by it ?

do you literally told her this .. did you spelled it out ?

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did you tell her straight on you were turned of by it ?

do you literally told her this .. did you spelled it out ?
yeh couple months ago i told her it was a big turn off and i dont want to hear it.

last nite when we were on the phone when she mentioned "that was the time i got with ... " i straight away just said i gotta go now cya later


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and all i can say is three things:

- you have one of the worst cases of one-itis i've ever witnessed
- you have massive inner-game issues
- you have no self-respect
I agree with all three of these. I don't know were to begin with my issues.

I'm well aware my behavior is outright ridiculousness, it's why she running away as fast as she fucking can probably. I just have no clue how to stop this kind of behavior. So the third
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or, is it that you are aware and just can't stop yourself?
well, at least we have pinpointed your issue.

you don't have a relationship problem.

you have a "you" problem.

fix your life, and that will fix your relationship(s).

i hate to oversimplify, but beyond that i would just be holding your hand and telling you exactly what to do with yourself in life.

plain and simple, men who have found (and are pursuing) their path/passion in life, don't have time to fret and toil over a silly female.

so, my advice is, VERY CLEARLY, quit focusing on fixing your relationship, and focus on fixing yourself, because until you do the latter, the former is impossible.

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