Oh shit I can't believe I didnt think of that earlier lol, that's a good idea bro! Too bad that everyone here is in their exam-week and I'm one of the few people in my circle that go out tonight.
Yeah as I stated earlier, she asked me to go out for drinks together tuesday but I didn't have time The problem though is, that last time I went out in private with her, it was a double-date, because my mate liked her friend. That's where I found out she wasnt very talkative, I had to drag the conversations out of them, I actually bailed out saying that I needed to open the door for my housemate because he was standing out in the cold lol. If I go out with her, just the 2 of us, I'm afraid the same thing might happen :s. If I play my cards right in a club where we dont need to talk that much, and take her home for an F-close, maybe she will feel more comfortable and open up or something.

I had to do so much talking/telling stories/asking them about themselves that I feel like I have nothing left to say to her actually. I just want her to open up more, and to do that I know I need to build comfort, but if I dont know what to talk about to her on a date, I can hardly build comfort lol.

Well said

Yeah that was spot on. That was a good reality check for me. I guess what I'm doing now is just building an 'army' of girls that all have qualities that I'm looking for, instead of looking for a girl with all those qualities...Anyway, I should be able to make a decision after this weekend I guess.

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cool, best of luck to you. Let us know how it goes.

Bone hb-X, it sounds like she may have got some more practice in bed. I am also certain you can go down on her. Just get her so horny, she will let u do everything. Quiet girls is usually a sign of low intelligence... not much you can do about that. Keep looking but maybe shes just shy.

Thanks bro but she was my girlfriend for 2,5 months and she still wouldnt let me go down on her, so im deffo gonna try again but i dont think she will let me

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A little update for those interested:

Last night I went to a concert with HB X and we kinda acted like a couple I guess, my friend was getting sick of us holding each other and hugging and kissing like a fresh couple would do. Can't really blame him though She went home with me where we just watched movies till 4 and talked because we were too tired to go out. She couldn't spend the night but told me she will stay this night, I hope she doesn't flake on me, she promised me to stay the night a few times but then couldn't for some bullshit reason. Anyway this time SHE brought it up so thats a little more positive. If she doesnt want to sleep at my place then I will work my ass off getting her hot enough to have sex, if she wants to leave after wards then its fine too

Today I went on a date with HBM, we went to a coffeeshop (the weed kind) where you can also have amazing dinner and good mocktails (non alcoholic cocktails). Really cozy place. Anyway, had a really good time with her; nice conversations and some flirting going on, but she had one sleeve rolled up and I saw cutters scars, like a shitload of white scars on her upper wrist. That really put me off and was another reality check for me that I was dealing with someone very unstable. It's really fucked up because she's absolutely stunning and really funny too, we got a lot in common. I dropped her off at the train station and when I wanted to kiss her cheeks for goodbye she sort of went for my lips and that was a little awkward because I didn't want to kiss her because now I still had her LJBF'd sort of, if I would have kissed her then I would still need to play my game really tight so that HBX doesnt find out.

So I'm typing this while waiting for HBX to come over again, we're gonna go out and I pray that she will spend the night with me, i'm really fucking horny lol.

HB Y bugged me all day texting me asking if she could spend the night, but i'm done with her, I just want to tell her in person.

Thursday I went out with HB S and it was a nice night, but we had a little talk about the cockblocking guy and it turns out she and him like eachother, but she likes me more. I asked her how come things between him and her didn't work out but she's just come out of a 4,5 year relationship and she's not looking for a new one. Well, I sort of am and I'm not going to just be her fuck buddy when I know I'll be sharing her with that douchebag.

So now it's down to HBX and HBM but I dont think I can (or actually want to) handle the baggage, so HB X is in the lead, but if she flakes on me again or pisses me off I think I'm going to just meet some more women

update done!

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I thought of a smart-ass answer to your question. Get two more and roll a die. haha.

I agree with this guy, I'd go for HBS, get around the cock block and see what happens because it seems you could have fun with her, and for her to be seeing you how she is, she's definitely interested din you. Forget the one that cheated on her bf with you, she isn't worthy and has already shown she's just a bang and forget your ex man, she's an ex for a reason, seek new blood.

Another little update, HBX indeed spent the night saturday, she even got her girlfriend to drop her off because she couldnt bike through the snow, she really put some effort into coming over, I was amazed (she didnt do that when we were a couple before we broke up).

She wanted it, she even told me, but the sex was..well..not really there? I think she was nervous (so was I btw, for some reason) because I couldnt possibly get in, I tried lubed condoms, lube, and without. That caused me to go limp every fucking time I tried and after a while we just gave up, I asked her if she was relaxed, fingered her for 30 minutes, massaged her, everything I could think of. We tried again at 6 in the morning and again at 11 in the morning, couldn't fucking get it in! I had trouble with that before with her because she's a really, really small/petite girl with an equally small vagina (she turns 18 next month don't know if that is a factor here). Pretty much a bummer, she was bummed out and I told her I liked her no matter what (I really do). We got out of bed, had breakfast, watched the football game and she went home. We haven't had that much contact since, some texting, but less than usual. I'm not gonna overthink things and just give her some space.

HBM just texted me, she wants to come over for wine and a movie fridaynight, and spend the night (she has to get up early on saturday to go dance near my place). I'll go for the kiss at my place and try to escalate into an F-close. I told her she could sleep on the couch if she behaves haha.

Oh yeah and I told HBY that I couldnt see her anymore because she felt so much more for me than I did for her and I felt guilty about it, I can still bootycall her though. At least now I got rid of the annoying 24/7 texts from HBY.

I've decided I'm just gonna take it slow with HBX and see how friday night goes with HBM.

Thanks all for the responses by the way.

And Chelios: in my last update I said that she has another fuckbuddy, and that she's not interested in a LTR (i am, im just not sure if she's the one i want to have a LTR with ;D), she told me she wants me, but I dont want to share her

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Oh my bad sorry Chillburg mate. Forget her man, or use her as a fuck buddy, don't fall for any mind games. Some women, well they all cannot be trusted,