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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:56 pm 
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Go if you wanna go, stay if you wanna stay. Your a grown ass man. Act like one.

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Look, if she would've replaced the event you were invited at in favor of girls' night, I'd get that. No issue.
If she had scheduled GNO and a party with guys afterwards, without inviting you to begin with, again, fine, it's her social circle.
But if she invited you and then retracted that invitation while her initial plans are largely the same, then that's weird and I don't get why.

Maybe I'm understanding your issue wrong, because it's a bit all over the place, but if I'm getting it right then talk to your girlfriend and clarify.
It sounds like you follow. Invited, then retracted. So now...: how to handle?


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I get that but then can you explain your thoughts on why we are getting away from the whole indifference/lose leverage when you show you care mindframe here?


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I get that but then can you explain your thoughts on why we are getting away from the whole indifference/lose leverage when you show you care mindframe here?
You cannot see you're way over thinking this? Excessive thinking about a problem, while losing focus on the big picture. The result is an overly complicated analysis, and any solution coming out of this will also be complicated. And probably a fruitless waste of time.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:27 pm 
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She's your girlfriend. A relationship is not a power struggle and "frames" are not something you hold actively. It's something enforced by who you are.

If something feels off to you communicate first. If she has nothing to hide she'll happily clarify the situation. If she gets defensive and starts acting out then you'll know something's off.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:18 pm 
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There's nothing wrong with your girlfriend having nights out that don't include you. You should also have nights out that don't include her. A relationship can't be successful if you don't have a life outside of it.

And honestly it doesn't matter if she's out with guy friends, girl friends, or clubbing. If you trust your girlfriend, and above that trust that you're her best option, whichever guys lurk around her should be utterly irrelevant.

That said, the underlying tone of your post is that you don't entirely trust her. Did she give you any reason for being suspicious?
R.C. would this also mean its ok for guys to touch your girlfriend/flirt back at them (light touching) laughing etc? Not in general but would you be ok with this if you girlfriend did this? I understand the fact to always try to be her best option/ your best self and let your girl be loose but how loose is to lose for you?

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Look, if she would've replaced the event you were invited at in favor of girls' night, I'd get that. No issue.
If she had scheduled GNO and a party with guys afterwards, without inviting you to begin with, again, fine, it's her social circle.
But if she invited you and then retracted that invitation while her initial plans are largely the same, then that's weird and I don't get why.

Maybe I'm understanding your issue wrong, because it's a bit all over the place, but if I'm getting it right then talk to your girlfriend and clarify.
Yeah thats how I feel...its not an issue...its just a retraction for a weird non sensical reason.

For eg, today some friends from work were joking around and I set up this plan to watch the new Fast and Furious next week. So I sent out invites and we were joking on the work chat thing. So my friend suggests we invite this other kinda friend. So I say ok. Now, I didnt want to forward the invite to the guy because I didnt want him to feel left out, so I cancelled the original invite and sent a new one with everyone including the new guy. So my friend who suggested I invite him, asked me why'd you do a new invite. I told him, so I could add X (new guy). He looked at me weirdly and said, but you couldve just forwarded him the invite. I then tell him yeah, but I didnt want it to look like we were inviting him last. So, see I gave my friend a half true explanation, he found it weird and probed me on it. No big deal, I gave him a weird answer and he questioned it. Same way in this case as OP, I wouldve just questioned the logic if its not GNO.

But honestly, seems now like there's more here. This lose leverage talk is signs you're not confident in your rs. So whats really going on?


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So we talked, she actually brought it up. The situation is her girlfriend is in town from Europe and her other girlfriend committed them to a girls night and wanted to also go to this party. She said she knows it is kind of weird but that she feels bad bailing on her friend that is in town from out of the country. I asked a few wuestions about how they are having a girls night with guys and she said her other friend that lives here didn't want to bring her own bf and got mad at my girl when she said she wanted to bring me.

She asked if I trusted her and I said yes, which I do. I am/was more caught up in the principle of the matter (making plans with me then bailing) and was stuck on if I really want to be investing time and resources into a girl that can be disrespectul of my schedule.

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So we talked, she actually brought it up. The situation is her girlfriend is in town from Europe and her other girlfriend committed them to a girls night and wanted to also go to this party. She said she knows it is kind of weird but that she feels bad bailing on her friend that is in town from out of the country. I asked a few wuestions about how they are having a girls night with guys and she said her other friend that lives here didn't want to bring her own bf and got mad at my girl when she said she wanted to bring me.

She asked if I trusted her and I said yes, which I do. I am/was more caught up in the principle of the matter (making plans with me then bailing) and was stuck on if I really want to be investing time and resources into a girl that can be disrespectul of my schedule.

Welcoming anyone's thoughts and further advice
So is the correct version of events:

Gf wants you to meet her guy friends
Gf invites you to her guy friends party
Gfs friend tells gf not to invite you to party because of her own business
Gf complies

just want to get the events right

Of everything, the essential part is she uninvited you because of a friend. Now Im not saying you should start a fight, or even bring it up...whats done is done...but if you're a man who CHOOSES, this is a strike against her for letting her friend decide where YOU go. If your gf is over 16 yrs old, she needs to grow up.


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So we talked, she actually brought it up. The situation is her girlfriend is in town from Europe and her other girlfriend committed them to a girls night and wanted to also go to this party. She said she knows it is kind of weird but that she feels bad bailing on her friend that is in town from out of the country. I asked a few wuestions about how they are having a girls night with guys and she said her other friend that lives here didn't want to bring her own bf and got mad at my girl when she said she wanted to bring me.

She asked if I trusted her and I said yes, which I do. I am/was more caught up in the principle of the matter (making plans with me then bailing) and was stuck on if I really want to be investing time and resources into a girl that can be disrespectul of my schedule.

Welcoming anyone's thoughts and further advice
So is the correct version of events:

Gf wants you to meet her guy friends
Gf invites you to her guy friends party
Gfs friend tells gf not to invite you to party because of her own business
Gf complies

just want to get the events right

Of everything, the essential part is she uninvited you because of a friend. Now Im not saying you should start a fight, or even bring it up...whats done is done...but if you're a man who CHOOSES, this is a strike against her for letting her friend decide where YOU go. If your gf is over 16 yrs old, she needs to grow up.
Yes I agree 100 pct and you have it. Now how to handle? We have only been together 2 months so i guess I should have shared that


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R.C. would this also mean its ok for guys to touch your girlfriend/flirt back at them (light touching) laughing etc? Not in general but would you be ok with this if you girlfriend did this? I understand the fact to always try to be her best option/ your best self and let your girl be loose but how loose is to lose for you?
There is no "too loose". If a woman is your girlfriend she should've earned that title. It's her job to handle guys hitting on her and it's her job to draw lines.
Enjoying light attention is perfectly fine. Eye fucking a guy across the room within two feet of you is not. But if she does that the implications are she does not value the relationship, takes no pride in being your girl and is likely undeserving of that role.

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Yes I agree 100 pct and you have it. Now how to handle? We have only been together 2 months so i guess I should have shared that
If I invite my girl somewhere I'm not going to cancel that invite without a proper reason. Let me exemplify.

If my friends invite me out, I invite my girl, and then they say it was actually supposed to be poker night or drinks with just guys, then I'll tell my girlfriend I got it wrong and it's actually a bros night out. And that's perfectly fine.

If however it's a regular night out with guys and girls, but one of my friends for some reason doesn't bring his girl and then gets mad at me for bringing mine, I will not be retracting her invite. Moreso I'd be questioning his mental sanity or why I'm calling this guy my friend.

I'd tread carefully in your shoes OP. A relationship involves strictly two people. Not your parents, not your friends and not hers. People who don't have a firm grasp of that concept don't usually form healthy couples.
In my opinion letting a friend dictate her relationship is in bad taste, but more importantly immature an lacks integrity.

It's not a huge deal, yet. But it may very well prove to be if she's so susceptible to influence.

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R.C. would this also mean its ok for guys to touch your girlfriend/flirt back at them (light touching) laughing etc? Not in general but would you be ok with this if you girlfriend did this? I understand the fact to always try to be her best option/ your best self and let your girl be loose but how loose is to lose for you?
There is no "too loose". If a woman is your girlfriend she should've earned that title. It's her job to handle guys hitting on her and it's her job to draw lines.
Enjoying light attention is perfectly fine. Eye fucking a guy across the room within two feet of you is not. But if she does that the implications are she does not value the relationship, takes no pride in being your girl and is likely undeserving of that role.
Thanks for clearing that up.

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