This is the best answer so far, but man i know all this stuff, and my plan is to try to f close her again, and if i get LMR again ill just tell her that i cant give her the status of my gf, Because : " xxxx " xxxx are the arguments i was looking for. Ill say that she having a coffe with her ex once a month still has a purpose cause i have exs too and i know how things work out, and ill just say im glad i helped, and ill return her things she gave to me...

This is so bullshitty. Your original statement is that you and your girlfriend LOVE each other but your problem is her seeing her ex once a month and you're not okay with that and you wanted to know how to deal with it. The post spoke nothing of LMR or what it takes to have the status of girlfriend. You're way too invested and that's why you're in this position. You have to realize that she isn't worried about losing you but she is afraid to lose her ex. You're her second option and the reason you are is because she knows she has you wrapped around her finger and tricked you into thinking that she was wrapped around yours. Walk away. Drop your plans on fucking her and walk away.

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Why don't you just be honest?

If her talking to her ex bothers you, why don't you tell her it makes you feel jealous and you are not comfortable with it.

If you want to have sex with her, why don't you start demonstrating that more through action, treat her like it. You don't want her to sleep with her ex, you want her to sleep with you. You want her to experience the best you have to give, you want her to feel like she can trust you and let you know and have all of her and she can trust that will be just between the two of you. Let her know the truth and that you won't judge her for wanting to have sex with you, it will only make your connection stronger because you can share more, and you obviously you seem to be ok with her seeing her ex on the surface level and don't want to mess up her social life, but it makes you feel uncomfortable because you get jealous because of it and want to her to be able to share everything with you, and feel like maybe she would prefer to share things with him that she is not comfortable sharing with you, and that makes you feel confused and frustrated.

How about you talk to this girl and actually go on about it, turn this into a relationship you actually want to be in. If it can't happen and she doesn't want to put in what you want to put in, maybe this romance is a one sided affair and you should maybe start weening yourself off this. If that's the case look for a girl that actually wants to put in some effort who doesn't have baggage, there are plenty of those around that would love a caring considerate guy like you and you should be afraid to discuss this either if you are truly feeling this way.

It's not LMR Mr. Cranky, she's just jerkin your chain rover.

Have you even gotten a BJ?

I can however understand the hair trigger, 3 months of waxy buildup will do that.

What Peter Pan land do you live in where there is a 90 day chill before you can bump ugly's?

As long as you show her you'll do anything for her, with out reward, she won't.

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Ok guys now you are getting to feel me deeper, i did invest alot, and she did too, today we had our date, and i just told her that i have value and i if im going to have a GF im looking for a partner to have good time with and fun, i have my own problems and i cant handle another one, as i refer to her seeing her ex, and i told her we should part ways, she can do what she wants. She didnt take me serious at first but when i spoke about her seeing her ex, she got kinda sad, i also told her i had the same experience and im returning from where she is going to and through, and i had fun. After a few seconds she replied with : we wont part ways, i will clear out things with my ex, he cant ruin what i have started, and im sorry for the dates we have are in hurry, as we got past my problems i will start telling my parrents bit by bit, and we will start seeing each other whenever we want, and how much we want" . I cant describe the personal problems she had its private, but a part of it is that her parrents somehow got word that i had a criminal past, which is partly true.

How do i react from here to find out if she truly clears out things with him, or just starts hiding from me ?

FUCK

HER

Invite her over, have the latest episode of GoT downloaded, buy a couple of Old Moot Ciders, and FUCK HER. IT'S BEEN 90 GOD DAMN DAYS.

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hahaha thanks mate, we alredy have a movie listed we have to watch, and idk how much time will we have, because she has a high school show later that day and other days we have exams and we both have to study, than in 6 days her pms will end, which means no sex in the next 6-7 days :S . Should i take charge on the next date, she is on pms or arrange a more solid date in 10-12 days after i finish with all exams and her ms passes?

Why is this in the relationship section?

Not to mention you haven't even slept with this girl yet. You're getting far too invested far too quickly bro. Slow down a bit before you get all oneitis on us; although it sounds like you're already 75% of the way there.

You have to draw the lines for your own life and decide what you're willing to deal with and what you're not. No one else can do that for you. I know that when I'm actually seeing a girl (not after 3 dates and no sex) I'm not at all for her meeting up, contacting, or seeing any ex. Thats just how I get down. People you had sexual relationships with have to remain in the past if we're moving forward. Other guys may not care, but thats them.

When a womans in love with you, she's not going to do anything that will disrespect your boundaries. Whatever they may be. It is only when they are unsure of you(mostly because you are unsure of yourself) that they will test your boundaries. So set your boundaries and walk away if they're crossed,

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Thanks alot now ! but the guy who said 90 days, idk if i can see to this as any other case because we didnt exactly go out 90 days we had breaks or brakes and i escalated slowly, but every other date i escalated (making out, grabbing, rubbing, shirts, bra) but our every date we were short on time because of her personal problems that were pretty serious, on theese problems depended her future, and now i wonder, because our next date is in her town on a coffee (no chance of sex because of the logistics) should i go out with her or just wait and arrange a solid date ? Because on an unconconscious level i increase my number of dates with her and still no sex, will that ruin my atrraction ?

Why is it that you asked a thousand questions before even telling her how you feel? You obviously want sex and want the ex out of the picture. If you had waited, say, 30 days in to see if you even wanted this, you could have solved this long ago. The big question is why you didn't express yourself from the get go? Did you expect her to say no? If the ex is actually out of the picture, then great. However, I see a different picture here. Her parents disapprove, she doesn't want to get invested with someone her parents don't like, keeps ex on the hook until she decides what to do, but she clearly is into you. If you can't communicate and stay on the same page, get out of the relationship because you two can't read minds. Get to the bottom of the LMR and realize she is not willing to commit to this relationship in this way probably because she doesn't want to invest in something she knows her parents won't approve of. Giving all the details upfront is important. We can't connect the dots otherwise. Your problem is much worse than I originally thought because your criminal record could go sideways with the most important people in her life. That's worse than an ex, or anything else. Make sure you make it clear that it isn't who you are and that your life isn't severely limited by it (can't travel, get jobs, etc.). You need to figure out her mentality, rather than guilt trip her into sex. There's a big difference between you not trying to fuck her to just keep the purity and then losing her to someone who will fuck her, and her not being comfortable being with you because of legitimate reasons not to be serious

Mate chill, i didnt want to go into details im not a real criminal, i had some small crimes in the past but ive changed and i dont hangout with the same friends i did, her problems at home are that her parents got divorced and she was under big pressure, but she told me she wants me and loves me, so i find this girl inteligent and fun, i wont dump her, but im new to this stuff thats why i ask will waiting a bit for her to get to herself kill my atrraction ?? At first i couldnt told her i love her because we werent that close, we went out on dates i was getting LMR but she was calling me texting me, even dirty talking to me to keep me intrested. But she seems like she wants more time, i can give her that but im looking for your opinion.

because every1 here is like " you didnt f close on the first date ? , she is using you, you are emotional tampoon, your dumb, she is in control bla bla" i pressured myself on the atrraction game, and some "pua rules" but everyone is individual and this case was even more different..

Nope. It's not different. The reason a lot of the qualified advice sounds so similar, is because we've been there, done that, and have seen it a bizillion times before you, and the bizillion more that will follow.

You just gotta ask yourself, is three months of gritty effort, worth the payoff, it's just a bang.

I get it, bruised ego, feeling stupid.

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I don't think that you not fucking her on the first date is a problem with the exception that you are already calling yourselves boyfriend and girlfriend. The problem is that you were the one complaining about the LMR, complaining about the ex, and being so secretive about saying what her issues are as if it was life threatening.

I still have doubts about how serious she is, but I'm going to give you some life advice. Don't bring people in your life when they have issues that they are going through. They are off balance and use your emotional support to help regain their balance. The problem comes when they start getting themselves back together and realize that the relationship was built on them going through a bad time with whacked out emotions.

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