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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:07 am 
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Thanks for all the advise guys. What I am looking at most and I'm not sure if it is right or not, but she's telling me she needs more and that I am not meeting her needs in this 'relationship'. Anyway, I realize that I don't have the value in her eyes to stick to a pure fuck buddy frame, so the only opportunity to get this girl playing on the team is give her something more of what she wants. Maybe the rocks vs. diamonds conundrum that Neil first talked about in the game.

And I could be just setting myself of for further betaisation but I will learn from it. I followed up with this girl from where we left off from up above, I waited a day to text:

Me: Will you go out with me monday evening?

WTF?

Her: Sure :) what do you want to do?
Me: Well since you actually want to get to know me I'll take you to one of my favorite places downtown

Double WTF?

[here I want to reframe her bad behavior of bitching and complaining from before. My objective is to communicate to her I didn't really know what she was after and that she can do a better job of communicating that (I really didn't know she was looking to date me), but my hope is that this curves the negative behavior into positive behavior in the future. we'll see]

Her: Sounds great
Me: Could you meet me at my house at 6pm monday? Then we can leave from there

JESUS CHRIST!
Her: We're going downtown?
Me: Yes, I'll have more info for you on monday, what to where, dress etc. but would like to keep a surprise. Cool?
GREAT CAESARS GHOST!
Her: Yeah, that's fine.. But my apartment is pretty much on the way to downtown..Can you just pick me up?
Me: Sure I can meet at your place and you can drive us
Her: Um... Sure

I don't really like this final response, but my thoughts are this shit isn't free and she still has to work for it. In addition, setting the romantic date frame of I pick you up and drop you off, just isn't beneficial quite at this point. This girl is rather resistant to extreme dominance IE she doesn't like to feel controlled (each time I've told her what to do, where to go, she has given me shit. This may be something I won't put up with, or maybe something she will get over after she trusts me more. I don't know, but I am about to find out.).

My plan is to not text until monday and then just get her address and proceed like normal. She has a roommate so it's not ideal logistics and my concern is that we will go on the date and then no sex at the end. Could be a trap that I am walking into, but I'll learn.
HOLY COW WHAT A STRANGE CONVO!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:27 pm 
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This is way to much work.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:11 pm 
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***UPDATE***
Thanks for all the advise guys. What I am looking at most and I'm not sure if it is right or not, but she's telling me she needs more and that I am not meeting her needs in this 'relationship'. Anyway, I realize that I don't have the value in her eyes to stick to a pure fuck buddy frame, so the only opportunity to get this girl playing on the team is give her something more of what she wants. Maybe the rocks vs. diamonds conundrum that Neil first talked about in the game.

And I could be just setting myself of for further betaisation but I will learn from it. I followed up with this girl from where we left off from up above, I waited a day to text:

Me: Will you go out with me monday evening?
Her: Sure :) what do you want to do?
Me: Well since you actually want to get to know me I'll take you to one of my favorite places downtown

[here I want to reframe her bad behavior of bitching and complaining from before. My objective is to communicate to her I didn't really know what she was after and that she can do a better job of communicating that (I really didn't know she was looking to date me), but my hope is that this curves the negative behavior into positive behavior in the future. we'll see]

Her: Sounds great
Me: Could you meet me at my house at 6pm monday? Then we can leave from there
Her: We're going downtown?
Me: Yes, I'll have more info for you on monday, what to where, dress etc. but would like to keep a surprise. Cool?
Her: Yeah, that's fine.. But my apartment is pretty much on the way to downtown..Can you just pick me up?
Me: Sure I can meet at your place and you can drive us
Her: Um... Sure

I don't really like this final response, but my thoughts are this shit isn't free and she still has to work for it. In addition, setting the romantic date frame of I pick you up and drop you off, just isn't beneficial quite at this point. This girl is rather resistant to extreme dominance IE she doesn't like to feel controlled (each time I've told her what to do, where to go, she has given me shit. This may be something I won't put up with, or maybe something she will get over after she trusts me more. I don't know, but I am about to find out.).

My plan is to not text until monday and then just get her address and proceed like normal. She has a roommate so it's not ideal logistics and my concern is that we will go on the date and then no sex at the end. Could be a trap that I am walking into, but I'll learn.
Wow. PUA terminology has made you very strange. :shock:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:17 am 
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LOL


OP, man you drank wayyyyyyyyy to much of that narcissistic juice. This girl did not do any bad behaviors, you just failed to charm her panties off. She told you straight up that she doesn't just want to be your slam piece. She isn't stupid, maybe you even failed to mentioned what you wanted straight up from the gecko. It isn't her job to get to the point of what she wants. It is your job to lay it out on the table. You lead the relationship. She is following your lead. And cut the shit with extreme dominance. Where did you even get that from ?

Funny thing is this happened to me a week ago. My chick wanted me to charm her. To make her feel wanted, to make her not feel like a means to an end. To treat her as a person and not some girl that I call up at night to bang out and leave in the morning. Don't get me wrong, there are girls like that but there are the girls that I just mentioned. Your chick is the one I just mentioned. She wasn't feeling it. You were being a dick and kept on being a dick. Setting up the date to where lives close by ? She knows this. Making her drive ? Making her work for what exactly ? She shoulda dropped your ass long time ago. Count your blessings if she still sticks around.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:41 pm 
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ive read your posts and all responses and it gave me good laugh. Extreme dominance is not what 95% of the girls like in a guy, having confidence and being fun to be around are far greater traits you should focus on.

From your way of typing i can tell your the type of boyfriend who will not let her go to parties without you and ask her who is texting her when your with her, telling her what to wear and all this dominate talk spooks most girls but the low confidence ones are usually drawn to it.

If you want to get this girl to fuck you more do exactly this:

Tell her you were playing, il see you at x time at your place, cant wait to see you, il pick you up and bring you home safely. She will most likely be relieved you weren't serious with your first texts and take it from there, no extreme dominance bullshit hitler style, save that shit for the bedroom where most girls actually do want to be dominated.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:59 pm 
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Send her a photo of you with your dick in a watermelon giving the thumbs up captioned "This could be YOU!"

That's really the only way i can see you turning this thing around.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:33 am 
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great thread...


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