I don't understand why I read about guys wanting to "get back at" girls for things like this. You're just stooping to their level by trying to seek revenge. I'd call her back, explain that you know she cheated (don't even say how). Be quick and to the point. The less you say the better. Just tell her that she's been dishonest with you. That you require respect from your significant other and that she's lost your trust. Bid her farewell and hang up. Don't wait to see her again. Don't try to fuck her again. Just drop her and start your healing process.

Well, look at Mr.Noble here.

Dude, it's PUA, it's about getting laid. Winning the game is finding that one girl. He obviously didn't find her so he may aswell get laid while he still can. Getting revenge is completely different to getting fucked. Getting revenge would be some crazy shit like deliberately having a threesome with her two best friends, taping it and sending it to her, then calling her a fat slag and really get at her mental state.

All the guy is doing is fucking her then dumping her and not speaking to her again. Both get something out of it, he gets the ride, she gets it too and she rightfully gets dumped and used just as she used him. Nothing wrong with that! The only problem is going above and beyond. This is just taking what you want and making the best of a situation.

That's what I use to think too. But PUA is about growing yourself into the best person you can be. Which inadvertently will make you more attractive. This attraction can then be used when you find a girl who is perfect for you by making her yours. It should not, in my eyes, be used to whore yourself out. All that really does is take your own value away.

He would indeed be acting out of revenge by getting her to drive four hours to meet him, acting as if nothing is wrong, sleeping with her, and then telling her he's breaking it off because she is a liar. Call me Nobel (as if that's a bad thing ). But he's doing more than "making the best of a bad situation". He's premeditating a plan to get back at her for hurting him. That is just not a good reaction to have to any situation in your life.

1. Let's be realistic. She's coming next weekend. So OP most likely is going to have to talk to her as normal during the week. That's one week he's missing from meeting other women. That time he spends talking to her could be spent meeting/fucking other chicks.

2. Inner game: Don't know about you, but walking away from pussy gets me more pussy than doing whatever to get it.

3. Closure: a week of talking to this girl is a week lost that he could be healing. Seeing her next weekend will mess with his head. It's one thing to be pissed for the week at her, but seeing her at his place, pleading and crying is going to set him back with respect to moving on.

So he could walk away now, spend the week healing and be off to something new sooner. One piece of pussy aint worth it IMO. Plus, he might backslide when he actually sees her. Rationalize it was just fooling around, no sex, she deleted the guy....we should try again. Then 4 months later same thing and he's more invested and more hurt. So, one piece of pussy just isn't worth all that. If it is and he can't sleep with someone new by next weekend anyway, he might as well stay with her.

OP: If you're a dog, be a dog. Fuck her dump her and move on. If you're not don't stoop to her level or change from the guy you were to hurt her or use her. Ive been a dog and while it's fun to do shit, it's a slippery slope to becoming a liar yourself. If you're a person who is out for vengence, you'll attract chicks/people like that. Its your choice dude.

You guys really dont realise how serious she has been when we have talked about cheating.
Even just writing flirty things with other people over FB or sms, she considers cheating.
She has told me that if such a thing happened, the relationship would be over in an INSTANT.
We really have awsome conversations so it is not that she has been saying it to threaten me or anything..

For about 6 months ago, she broke up with her BF of 3,5 years.
(Her ex is NOT the guy we're talking about)

Looking through her messages with the guy(not ex), I have become aware that she and her ex just needs some time apart and would probably get together again later. And in the mean time she is just "taking off some pressure".

The EXTRA wierd part is that she had her dad over to spend the night the other day, and I heard her referring to me as her "new boyfriend" and how she doesnt miss her ex...

We both agreed that there was a great chemistry between us. We can talk for hours, we really ping-pong each other very vell, and not just sugar-sweet talk all the time..

So I am still so fucking confused.. She shows a lot of interest in actually having a meaningful relationship with me, but then she does this shit?? A part of me wants to sit down and talk with her and make this work..

I am going to have her come over and then talk to her.. I really really really NEED an explanation, face to face.. So its not so much to actually take any kind of revenge..

1. Who says he can't be meeting other women? As far as i'd be concerned the relationship is over, just haven't gone ahead and told her that. She's been doing the dirt on the guy, why can't he? Or at least why can't he just pave the way in the meantime? Get a few girls numbers, call them up, meet up and f-close after you dump the chick.

2. Completely situational. Maybe you feel better walking away from pussy but you can't automatically apply that to everyone else as fact of matter. May aswell talk about how relevant the Oedipus Complex is to every single human being on the planet(It's not!).

3. Refer to point 1.

No, he should be a Pick Up Artist and not a Seduction Artist. He shouldn't have oneitise and if he rationalises that she wasn't really cheating or whatever then he's going to do it without fucking her and make it much worse. Get it out of your system, fuck the chick and dump her. If you want to have her as a fuck buddy fine, revert to that, no problem there. Just don't think highly over her, you shouldn't be thinking that of women anyway, don't place them on a pedestal.

I'm just going to disregard the "OP" bullshit. This isn't karma. If you're happy, you're a PUA and you enjoy picking up women then just don't give a shit about how you treat her if she's been the one to fool around with you. Take advantage of the situation, fuck her, dump her and whatever.

Oh man, biggest AFC shit you could EVER do.

You've lost the plot. You don't need closure, women never give closure, at least not the closure you want/need. Just move the fuck on. If it's so bad for you right now you need to cut all ties and forget about fucking her or meeting up. You've only been with her for four weeks, don't do this to yourself man.

Trust me on this, get away from her. You will end up listening to any bullshit she throws at your face and believe it because you want to believe it. The facts are there, she's cheating, she'll continue to cheat and she's going to walk all over you like the average frustrated chump that you are.

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Read over your own posts.

You.
Have.
A.
Problem.

You're needy, you're an AFC.

Accept.
Learn.
Move On.

Listen here and listen carefully: You're a chump. What are you going to do about it? Are you going to fix this shit or continue being a needy AFC? Just go ahead, read the threads you've started, read over it and then read over this thread. Notice anything carrying over???

Listen to me, fuck the shit everyone else says about being nice. Be there for yourself, stop giving a shit and be normal... fuck normal, be a player. Be awesome. Being awesome is being great and you ARE great, you just don't act great or show that you're great. You need to show that and then you'll be awesome. Stop placing so much emotions on the one girl and just play the field a bit.

Seriously, have you only slept with two or three women or something? You sound like someone with very little experience here!

Not to derail guys thread here. But just from reading your posts. You need to work on this mindset. It is highly destructive to your inner game.
I completely agree with you here.

OP, if you haven't done it, pick up the phone, call the girl and end it. Don't even go into it with her about the cheating or why she did it. Just end it and move on!

This is why I told the OP to dump now. He isn't going to meet other girls if he stays with her this week and when she gives her "explanation" about her being insecure, being hurt by other guys in the past and being afraid of love or whatever, he is going to cave and take her back. If he doesn't cut clean now one of 2 things are going to happen:
a) he gets her to come over, gets his explanation and takes her back
b) he gets his explanation, goes AFC and she dumps him that day or the next week.

If he can't dump her today, over the phone or text when the wound is fresh, he aint going to next weekend with her in his face crying.

I know it looks that way but I don't treat women like being holes to stick my dick in. I'm even with them. That whole "Be above them" crap is just AFC shit. The only way you should walk away and not bother with it is if it actually requires effort. If it's like the OPs situation(If you were a normal guy and not needy as fuck) it requires zero effort to wait before breaking up with her. After that you go your merry way and just don't give a fuck, she already has someone else to take the reigns so she's not going to be overly hurt by the fact that her boyfriend broke up with her when she has someone else to be with.

Too much AFC mentality around here and that's a problem.

PUA mentality: Don't put a woman or any woman on a perch. She won't respect you if you worship the ground she walks on.

AFC mentality: Be fair, even and kind to women and they won't take you for granted. They'll see the inner you and respect and love that.

Which mentality is proven here? PUA of fucking course!

Given the light of the situation this is true. However, if he's supposed to be a PUA or learning the way of Pick Up he needs to grow up and change his mentality. He needs to reinforce his mental state when he has the proper frame and grow up. He'll need to be challenged and work on it, not give into his needy AFC thoughts.

The guy has huge problems, he's an extreme of neediness. He needs to accept how he is and see it's not okay. It's going to be tough for him either way no matter how he goes about it. As you said, he needs to cut off from her and I agree(I said so when I read his latest reply which indicated how AFC and needy the guy is) but normally, as a PUA, he should take advantage of the situation, use the time to lay the foundation of another encounter or relationship, break up with the girl mentally then fuck her and break up with her in person after he fucks her and just call it a day.

I think you need to look at what I'm saying form a different point of view. I am telling him to have some respect for himself. Be the better person in this situation. Take the high road. Don't be a person who takes advantage. Be a person who values themselves and can walk away from someone who is obviously toxic, not because they are hurtful, but because their values aren't to his high standards. Don't be AFC... meaning have high standards, expect respect. But know it takes giving respect to receive respect. That is why so much of PUA tactics result in women only sticking around for a few weeks. Most of it is disrespectful and will net you no respect from the girl you're pursuing. By being a man, realizing she's toxic to your life and nipping this in the butt. You are being alpha and stepping out of your chump shoes.

Stop trying to be a Pick up Artist and start trying to be an attractive man who is on the prowl for someone worthy. You are right is saying "don't put her on a pedestal". You are wrong in saying that the OP should slump his moral code just because she did.

See what I'm getting at here?

I don't agree with this. It was clear they were a young couple and that this girl was flirtin with another guy before they were a couple. Since the moment they were a couple she did kept texting him but hold the guy on the leash. Now i dont approve that but hey they are young girls. But there was not really a clear threath that she would cheat on him.

Anyways for OP, i agree to just fuck her and dump her ass after. She deserved that for cheatin on ya!

Yes, and it's a completely AFC mentality.

Sorry dude but there's a massive difference between treating women like shit day in, day out, having no regard for them and just being normal and respectful of yourself. The number one guy in any situation is you. If it's you or your friend and one of you is going to die no matter what who are you going to choose?

Your perception of "being a better person" is completely different to what being a better and more attractive person is. You need to change that frame of mind completely.

"I am telling him to have some respect for himself. Be the better person in this situation. Take the high road."
What, exactly is having respect for himself? Is it just walking away and doing nothing at all? That's subject to some debate as it is an automatic thought based on the idealisms that modern day society has forced on you.

Having respect for yourself is not letting others walk all over you but taking advantage of life as a whole. If life hands you a swanky apartment with a six figure job are you going to turn around and say "No, I respect myself too much. I won't take advantage of this." or are you going to say "Happy days!!" and accept it? Yeah, fuck that AFC bullshit of not taking advantage of situations. There's a difference between actually being a scumbag and just taking advantage of something. If the situation presents itself you should take it, if you have to do some seedy and dark, nasty shit to get it then that's the dark side of it. Know the difference.

For himself, as he should be thinking, he should be okay with fucking her then dumping and not giving a damn about her. If a girl treats you with respect don't treat her with disrespect, that's just being a dick. If a girl disrespects you then fair game but it will work against you to be a spiteful bastard, don't be that guy, just don't put effort into it and move on.

You're on PUA forums. You're presumably learning how to be a pick up artist. You need to reframe yourself mentally and physically to be one, otherwise you're going against the way of pick up. Don't be a dick, sure but don't be a pussy. You need to get rid of all those AFC thoughts and learn to think for yourself, about yourself and what's best for you within social acceptance.