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i'm gonna get flamed for this...

but men and women can't be friends, without eventually one wanting to fuck the other, if not both.

it's just the way it works.

if my girl wanted to hang around with dudes, i would break up with her and move on.

lol, let the flaming begin...
Even when it IS true (i don't believe it is, cause i had many girl-friends which i didn't want to bang neither they wanted to bang me)

Can you, being in a LTR, prevent your GF from hanging out with other guys?

This will always be the case. Just to give an example. Imagine your girl is volunteering in a political party where a bunch of male guys are. Sometimes they go to recruit people together. Sometimes they have a drink. Etc.


I think you should draw the line between hanging out with guys and going to parties and get wasted with them.
What you are describing are acquaintances. Obviously women are going to have men in their life, that's not what mack 2.0 was talking about. He was talking about close male friends. The kind that talk on the phone, and text, and hang out, and discuss life, and other semi-intimate shit like that.

You have to look at the intention behind the relationship. If there is a reason why they are friends and hangout, like due to work or family or if they are part of a larger social group (like a fiend or relative of a friend); that's different. But I'd classify these as acquaintances, due to the lack of intimacy.

On the other hand, if it's just a guy and a girl, and they are close and have a history and trust each other and hangout with each other, and have fun together; they are eventually going to bang. They just need the right opportunity and moment. It's human nature. Eventually, one or both of them, are going to misinterpret the good feelings they get from hanging out together, and they are going to misinterpret the intimacy they share, and sexual attraction is going to kick in, and they are going to bang. And there is nothing wrong with that, it's human nature.

The question isn't "Why must they bang, if they are just friends?"
The question is "Why would two young attractive straight people, who like and trust each other, not have sex?" For what reason would they not want to? Obviously if one is ugly and there is no attraction, or if one or the other is in a committed relationship which they value, they might refrain. But other than that, isn't logical that if they are both horny or lonely, that they might turn to each other for sex?
So what about the so famous "FRIEND-ZONE"?
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there is no attraction, they might refrain
... it's quite OFTEN there is no MUTUAL attraction between a male and a female, EVEN with close friends.


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So what about the so famous "FRIEND-ZONE"?
Of course that still stands, but that does not defeat my point. The guy still wants to fuck your girlfriend, even if it's not mutual. He is still trying to bang her, even though he lacks the skill to close the deal.
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... it's quite OFTEN there is no MUTUAL attraction between a male and a female, EVEN with close friends.
Like my above response, just because your girl doesn't want to fuck her friend, doesn't mean the guy doesn't want to fuck her. If you have a hot girlfriend and she has male friends, they want to fuck her. Maybe they lack the skill or confidence to do it, or there are other reasons why they don't go through with it. But given the chance, under the right scenario with the right amount of liquid courage, they would try to bang her.

Hot girls always have a bunch of guys orbiting around them "being friendly", hoping they can weasel their way into their pants. Think about it realistically, not emotionally. You see a HOT GIRL, do you think to yourself "she seems like a nice person who would make a good friend" or do you think "I want to get into her pants"? That initial thought doesn't just go away because you get to know her. It continues. Women put guys into the friendzone, but guys don't do the same. Guys don't have a friendzone, they have mans rules which may stop them from sleeping with their friends girlfriends or family, but that doesn't affect their attraction. Guys are always attracted to sexy women, regardless of friendship status.

You may not like this fact of life, but that doesn't change it's validity. Also, you may know a handful of exceptions to this rule, but that doesn't negate the rule. There is an exception to every rule, but that doesn't disprove it. It actually reinforces because of how rare these exceptions are. If they were the norm, they wouldn't be the exception.


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over the years, i have had many female acquaintances. i didn't want to fuck them. well, wait, yes i did. i am a man.

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over the yers, i have had a "few" female friends. i wanted to fuck each and every one of them. did i move on it? no. would i have done it if given the chance? hell yes!

but that is when i am single.

when i am in a relationship, i don't want or need female "friends".

just because i get my female companionship from my significant other. so i have no need for further female companionship. that doesn't mean that i am not "friendly" with women while i am in a relationship, just that i am not "friends" with women at that time.

come to think of it, i don't think i've ever had a female "friend". mostly just chicks that i hung out with and wanted to bang.

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So what about the so famous "FRIEND-ZONE"?
Of course that still stands, but that does not defeat my point. The guy still wants to fuck your girlfriend, even if it's not mutual. He is still trying to bang her, even though he lacks the skill to close the deal.
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... it's quite OFTEN there is no MUTUAL attraction between a male and a female, EVEN with close friends.
Like my above response, just because your girl doesn't want to fuck her friend, doesn't mean the guy doesn't want to fuck her. If you have a hot girlfriend and she has male friends, they want to fuck her. Maybe they lack the skill or confidence to do it, or there are other reasons why they don't go through with it. But given the chance, under the right scenario with the right amount of liquid courage, they would try to bang her.

Hot girls always have a bunch of guys orbiting around them "being friendly", hoping they can weasel their way into their pants. Think about it realistically, not emotionally. You see a HOT GIRL, do you think to yourself "she seems like a nice person who would make a good friend" or do you think "I want to get into her pants"? That initial thought doesn't just go away because you get to know her. It continues. Women put guys into the friendzone, but guys don't do the same. Guys don't have a friendzone, they have mans rules which may stop them from sleeping with their friends girlfriends or family, but that doesn't affect their attraction. Guys are always attracted to sexy women, regardless of friendship status.

You may not like this fact of life, but that doesn't change it's validity. Also, you may know a handful of exceptions to this rule, but that doesn't negate the rule. There is an exception to every rule, but that doesn't disprove it. It actually reinforces because of how rare these exceptions are. If they were the norm, they wouldn't be the exception.
I know that guys don't have a friendzone. But as a BF you really shouldn't care about thsoe guys who want to fuck your GF.

If things are going well, your GF should automatically drop those guys. Not in one week, but in months.

But i will never ask my GF to cut every contact with 1 or 2 male friends she had for over 10 years.
And the fact that those 1 or 2 guys would like to bang her doesn't influence this decision, cause they are friend-zoned, their attraction to her is not mutual, and most importantly I AM fucking her.


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I have to say all you can do is worry about yourself and monitor your own actions and make sure you are acting through your own intentions and the way you think is best. Just because we know there are guys tryin to fuck our chics doesent mean we should REACT to that situation. We roll with it laugh at it and be the best men we can. If it becomes a problem you can give an ultimatum and it is a thin line, however personal boundaries/value are something you should not stretch to fit a chic in.


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I can't add anything else that hasn't already been said...we should keep some of this info handy...the subject will come up again soon...Good shit you guys! Im keeping this as a fav!

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I know that guys don't have a friendzone. But as a BF you really shouldn't care about thsoe guys who want to fuck your GF.

If things are going well, your GF should automatically drop those guys. Not in one week, but in months.

But i will never ask my GF to cut every contact with 1 or 2 male friends she had for over 10 years.
And the fact that those 1 or 2 guys would like to bang her doesn't influence this decision, cause they are friend-zoned, their attraction to her is not mutual, and most importantly I AM fucking her.


I believe I already said, "This is that grey area, where conquering one's insecurities meets upholding one's boundaries."

If you'd rather see this as being insecure, that's fine, maybe that's the way to go based upon your specific situation. But just as likely is the other side, where you could just as easily view this as disrespectful behavior on her part.

It depends entirely upon the woman, the male friends, and the context. Maybe your girlfriend does have a purely platonic relationship with her male friends and there is no mutual attraction. Perhaps she is an exception to this rule.

But now pretend for one second that that was not the case. What if she didn't drop those guys? And what if the attraction was mutual, just not acted upon? You're telling me, you would be fine with your gf being surrounded by guys who want to fuck her, and whom she may want to fuck back, and let them continue seeing each other? And you'd be fine with that?

The problem is that you are using your current woman as a reference point for this scenario, and perhaps she is an exception to this and you've built up enough trust with her, that you don't have to worry.

But the average girl on the street is a different story. Women don't like to leave relationships, until they have something else lined up. So they either make a friend or turn to an existing friend they're interested in, build up a basis for a relationship, leave their boyfriends, and pursue something new with the new friend. Or they go back to someone, they've been with before because it's safe. Either way, they test the waters first to see if what they could have with the new guy, would be better or worse than what they have with their boyfriends. Women are constantly chasing that "butterfly feeling" in their stomach, and the "newness" and excitement of a new relationship. And there are a lot of guys out there who know this and exploit this, in order to steal other guys girls.

Think about this, what happens when you and your girlfriend have a fight? Then she turns to one of her close guy friends to confide in and console her. Do you want her being around another guy when she's mad at you and vulnerable and lost. What happens when she realizes how bad you made her feel, and how much her friend is cheering her up. It's very easy in this emotional state for a woman to lose sight of what she values.
And that's just one scenario. What happens when they all go out and you can't make it. And they are having a blast and she gets drunk, and she's lonely because you're not there. But her guy friends are their cheering her up and taking care of her. How easily would it be for this situation to go wrong?

I have seen these things happen all the time.

Yeah, you are fucking her. But that means nothing. One of the first things you learn when you start pua, is that women are much more scandalous than you would assume. Read "Red Queen". You can never possess or completely control another human being. Even if you are "fucking her", she still may cheat or leave you.

Don't believe that's fine. But how many times do you hear about a girl leaving her man for his best friend? Why because the guy thought she would be safe with his best friend, and allowed them to get close.


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I have to say all you can do is worry about yourself and monitor your own actions and make sure you are acting through your own intentions and the way you think is best. Just because we know there are guys tryin to fuck our chics doesent mean we should REACT to that situation. We roll with it laugh at it and be the best men we can. If it becomes a problem you can give an ultimatum and it is a thin line, however personal boundaries/value are something you should not stretch to fit a chic in.
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I would act confident and show her, that I trust her. But that doesn't mean, that she would get rid of my cocky funny comments. Just make fun of the situation and forget about it. If you become jealous and become to act weird, you will lose her. Show her, that you are the best option, she can have and everything will be ok. For more information about dating and improving your inner-game, visit http://seduceandattract.blogspot.com/

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over the years, i have had many female acquaintances. i didn't want to fuck them. well, wait, yes i did. i am a man.
Maybe it's just me, but I think that's fucked up on so many levels. I've been friends with alot of girls, some of them I've wanted to bang but most of them I was friends with them simply because I liked them. I dunno man, maybe I'm just weird but I have no problem getting to be close friends with a girl that I have absolutly no attraction to.

Something tells me this might get a negative response from some people...


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Other guys from GFs past are blowing up her phone. Some are old BFs some are old flings. They come in in the middle of the night, and on our dates. She ignores them during those times but I don't know what she does when I am not around.

How do alphas handle this situation? Thank you

I told my girl no facebook exes, no exes calling, none of that, if that happens, is over, period end of story... I have my rules and my boundaries she wants to cross them, i am done next... My girl and i had that problem at the beginning guys calling and shit, she started to try to act sneaky, i dumped her ass, she ask for forgiveness i told her how it is... It has to happen early in the relationship, if too many boundaries cross you set the relationship for failure.

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I admitidly have alot more male friends than female. However, when ever I have entered into a serious relationship with someone I would openly answer the phone to any males in my life, be it the chaser, friend, ex, and clearly state in the conversation that I have a BF now. This makes them aware that they need to respect certain boundry's that are now in place(ie consistant calling). . . . . Sign of respect for the level of commitment that has been made. :?


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buddy everyone would keep fucking your head here. Its so easy but here you guys made it the issue of 9,11
look. Be practical.
She can change her number. Why the hell she does not change if she really wants to get rid of those guys?
And if she doesn want to change the number then she doesnt want to get rid of those guys. She gets the ego boost from those calls and texts.
Fuck the theories, fuck the long discussions, be practical and get the shit out.
Do this
1. Tell her to change her number and if doesnt and still tell you about those texts and calls
2. Tell her,"don't tell me about all this. I told you to change the number and if you dont want to do that then just deal with it."

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Fuck the theories, fuck the long discussions, be practical and get the shit out.
Nobody gave out any theories, just our own personal advice. Also me and mack 2.0 posted quick practical advice, which is almost identical to yours, initially. The only reason there was long discussions on this thread, was because people disagreed with our advice.


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i think you should talk it with your girlfriend and tell her how you feel
maybe it's not that serious
than you can see how to deal with

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