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 Post subject: Re: Is this reversible?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:06 pm 
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The thing is, the night she went out isn't the real issue. Dont get me wrong, it was needy as hell and smothering, but the issue is
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Things got very fast: kisses, sex, she knows my family, I met her friends, not family yet, we made plans, travel scheduled, public affection, I knew her job, friends, cooked to her, etc etc.
You 2 moved super fast, doing couple things and being way too invested too quickly. Your needy actions spring from not taking it slow, so any change is going to freak you out. For eg, this happens alot. Guy meets girl and they move too quickly. Talk everyday. See each other all the time. Start planning trips and introducing to family early in. Throwing the word "love" out. Things are "great." One day, chick thinks to herself, "wow, things are moving quickly." She gets scared, realizes she doesnt really know you and you her. "How can he act like this so soon?" Turns her off. Makes her second guess whether the "connection" is real. She decides she's going to pull back. Maybe not text as much. Guy, who is used to speaking everyday, realizes she didnt text good morning today. He gets needy and overtexts, searching for the affection that was there. Girl gets more turned off and says "you didnt give me space today, I was ok, but it was this thing you did today." NO. The WHOLE situation is NEEDY. Not just today. It's just that at some point, she realized you were needy. And it probably was before you texted her last night.

I say this, because you're thinking it was just one mistake. No, you made several mistakes, this was just the one she chose to pull back. When after 2 weeks of sex and 4 months of dating, you're planning the future with a chick, she's going to come out of the trance and realize "he likes me way too much." Last night was just another sign of that. If she texts you tomorrow, youre thinking "ok now things can go back to the everyday talking/lets pick out our kids names" thing. THAT's the problem. The only way this COULD work out for you, is if you realize both of you over invested, and you both need to step back. If youre thinking "wow, I shouldnt be planning trips with a chick so soon" Good. If you're thinking "wow, I wish she came back so we can go on that trip" BAD. YOU have to do as she did and realize things are at an unrealistic/crazy place. YOU have to realize this girl is not your wife. If you continue thinking that things are great/healthy and this fuckup was the only thing to fix, then youve already lost.

She was "scared" from you calling, because she already wanted space. A chick who hasnt realized things are moving too fast, wouldve continued to text you even when she's out because she's still in puppy dog love mode. And she's right, you too should step back. The issue is, you shouldve realized it first. Now, you're in the worse position.
Yeah, as n2thevoid said, it's a matter of seeing the forest for the trees. I didn't realize the whole situation scenario...

She sent me a message yesterday, asking if we could talk today. I suggested a Cafe, she said "Anywhere" very smily, kind of friendly and cute.
Then she asked me how I was going, I said I had better times, but I was ok. She said she also had been better, but she was ok too.
Then she said she was at a party with a friend (who's gay) who decided to take her out of her "sad day". She's not the party type, but we met at this club on the first date. I said he did well, said her to have fun, that I wanted to go there but I would wait until tomorrow, and said "Enjoy the mojitos!" which is her favorite drink. Smile emojis, kisses emojis and that's it..

Let's see how this talk is gonna be. I'm thinking about asking her to come here (home) instead of the Cafe, as long as she said "anywhere". What do you guys think?

PS: Besides it, I'm calm and aware of all the things posted here. Whatever happens in this talk, I think I will be a better man after it. Many thanks again.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this reversible?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:43 pm 
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The thing is, the night she went out isn't the real issue. Dont get me wrong, it was needy as hell and smothering, but the issue is
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Things got very fast: kisses, sex, she knows my family, I met her friends, not family yet, we made plans, travel scheduled, public affection, I knew her job, friends, cooked to her, etc etc.
You 2 moved super fast, doing couple things and being way too invested too quickly. Your needy actions spring from not taking it slow, so any change is going to freak you out. For eg, this happens alot. Guy meets girl and they move too quickly. Talk everyday. See each other all the time. Start planning trips and introducing to family early in. Throwing the word "love" out. Things are "great." One day, chick thinks to herself, "wow, things are moving quickly." She gets scared, realizes she doesnt really know you and you her. "How can he act like this so soon?" Turns her off. Makes her second guess whether the "connection" is real. She decides she's going to pull back. Maybe not text as much. Guy, who is used to speaking everyday, realizes she didnt text good morning today. He gets needy and overtexts, searching for the affection that was there. Girl gets more turned off and says "you didnt give me space today, I was ok, but it was this thing you did today." NO. The WHOLE situation is NEEDY. Not just today. It's just that at some point, she realized you were needy. And it probably was before you texted her last night.

I say this, because you're thinking it was just one mistake. No, you made several mistakes, this was just the one she chose to pull back. When after 2 weeks of sex and 4 months of dating, you're planning the future with a chick, she's going to come out of the trance and realize "he likes me way too much." Last night was just another sign of that. If she texts you tomorrow, youre thinking "ok now things can go back to the everyday talking/lets pick out our kids names" thing. THAT's the problem. The only way this COULD work out for you, is if you realize both of you over invested, and you both need to step back. If youre thinking "wow, I shouldnt be planning trips with a chick so soon" Good. If you're thinking "wow, I wish she came back so we can go on that trip" BAD. YOU have to do as she did and realize things are at an unrealistic/crazy place. YOU have to realize this girl is not your wife. If you continue thinking that things are great/healthy and this fuckup was the only thing to fix, then youve already lost.

She was "scared" from you calling, because she already wanted space. A chick who hasnt realized things are moving too fast, wouldve continued to text you even when she's out because she's still in puppy dog love mode. And she's right, you too should step back. The issue is, you shouldve realized it first. Now, you're in the worse position.
Yeah, as n2thevoid said, it's a matter of seeing the forest for the trees. I didn't realize the whole situation scenario...

She sent me a message yesterday, asking if we could talk today. I suggested a Cafe, she said "Anywhere" very smily, kind of friendly and cute.
Then she asked me how I was going, I said I had better times, but I was ok. She said she also had been better, but she was ok too.
Then she said she was at a party with a friend (who's gay) who decided to take her out of her "sad day". She's not the party type, but we met at this club on the first date. I said he did well, said her to have fun, that I wanted to go there but I would wait until tomorrow, and said "Enjoy the mojitos!" which is her favorite drink. Smile emojis, kisses emojis and that's it..

Let's see how this talk is gonna be. I'm thinking about asking her to come here (home) instead of the Cafe, as long as she said "anywhere". What do you guys think?

PS: Besides it, I'm calm and aware of all the things posted here. Whatever happens in this talk, I think I will be a better man after it. Many thanks again.

You are nourishing this overly serious tone that she's focusing on. If she asks how you're doing, no need for this "Ive had better days" shit. "I'm great, just did xyz" Same with her talking about her "sad day" and you saying "he did well." '

You 2 are just 2 people who are dating for a month and fucking for 2 weeks. Keep the shit light and casual. All this "enjoy the mojitoes!" like you're one of her gal pals is cringeworthy. When you allow her to bring this overly serious vibe, you're just making things seem too much of a big deal which reinforces that things are a big deal. For eg, having a "sad day" over a few text messages is way too much. Its not like you insulted the chick...she needs a sad day?If she tries to make things overly serious, ignore. If she doesnt want to date you, cool, but dont let it be this melodramatic soap opera thing. When you respond to shit like that, you reinforce in her mind and the dynamic that things are more serious than they are. When you act like her having a sad day is a weird thing, she then second guesses whether she's being too emotional. When you act like you're sad and you understand she's sad...its just way too serious. You're not in a rs with this chick, so act accordingly.


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 Post subject: Re: Is this reversible?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:06 pm 
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What does she want to talk about? Women that you're going out with don't want to meet up to have a "talk". They want to meet up and enjoy spending time with you. You're seeing what you want to see here when you're more likely to be walking into a situation that you will be defending yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Is this reversible?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:13 am 
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I met her at a Cafe. It was kind of awkward.
She explained what she did that day and said that would like to hear it from me.

I recognized my error, said it was something isolated, that I never lose, or I win or I learn. Apologized, etc

She said she didn't want to think about it, that was too early, said ok, she liked me but she is still scared and afraid of my behaviour. This meeting had easy parts and hard parts.

She said she was going to take a walk by the beach, by herself. She was not upset, bu she still needed the space. I said ok. She remembered me something that we had scheduled for next weekend, she said she would like to go, a Carnival party (very common here in Brazil).

We split the bill, I took her to her car, we talked a little.
She said I was acting like we wouldn't talk or see each other again, to don't be dramatic. I laughed because I remembered this very own forum and your advices.

Tonight I sent her an audio, said that there is a movie I want to watch tomorrow and asked if she would like to join me. She said "May it be... But tomorrow I give you an answer.."

She still isn't talking to me like before, things are strange.
What should I do? Conversation isn't going like before, so I stopped send her messages and I'm waiting her to show some attitude.

I like her, she said she still likes me.
But I'm already thinking about going after other girls. Don't like to depend on only a single "stream".
What do you guys think about this mindset?


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 Post subject: Re: Is this reversible?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:25 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Is this reversible?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:59 am 
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You did your part. Now this girl is being overly dramatic about it.

Stop contacting her. If she wants it, let her come to you.
Either way start talking to other women and downgrade her.

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 Post subject: Re: Is this reversible?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:01 am 
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Yep, she didn't send me an answer.
I'm facing this shit as a breakup already, and for some fuckin' reason I'm feeling devastated.

Any hints? What do you guys do to put your shit together and don't feel this bad?


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 Post subject: Re: Is this reversible?
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Any hints? What do you guys do to put your shit together and don't feel this bad?
Have other options.

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 Post subject: Re: Is this reversible?
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Have other options.


OP, the goal is to improve yourself to the point you have abundance mentality.

These things will still sting, of course. But they won't sting as bad with that hot brunette hanging off the end of your dick.

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