This is true. Something given and not earned, has no or little value intrinsically no matter what background or circumstance a woman comes from. This is an error I think I made. Man. I shouldn't have bought my gf an Xbox. Should have said it was for both of us cos right now she has it.

I've lost a gf but most importantly I have lost an Xbox

Sorry but,

Doesnt really mesh with:
Also, I've given advice in your other threads. You have a habit of saying "this chick has X social media thing and I didnt look but I noticed Y" or "I saw this on X chick's phone one day." I'm just saying man, seems like you're a snoop. And things like "I need to have revenge" coupled with the prying, led me to assuming that a chick's 2 day notice and changing bank cards like that, was more a way to stop you.
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Other poster: Other poster: All of this, a similar theme called out by others of being controlling and clingy. Your gf before, if this wasn't the same chick, you found out she was cheating. Are you really gonna say that 4 months after that, you dropped the snooping after being cheating on and the efforts to control the next relationship? Even if a girl is cheating, she only changes her stuff like that if she thinks you'd go snooping. I hear "less fighting towards the end" then "there was no fighting." I hear "I'm not controlling" but from her actions and your past it looks like you would be. I see you say its her friend, then its not. I see you say there were no signs recently to there were a ton of signs. I see you say you're in the plus, and she did more for you, but now its she didnt even earn a simple xbox. That all just leads me to not trust that you wouldnt be controlling or at the very least denying or hiding details some more. Nothing personal, but on page 1 of this you werent being honest with yourself. On page 2, same thing. On page 3...4...5...And now all the way on page 8, you aren't.

Neo.

Previous girl only was like that. It's not the same.
I knew she was no good from the start and I saw her for a while and she was shitty in general. Glad to be rid of it.

I don't snoop. Some things are there and painfully obvious.
I've never been controlling and I'm being honest. None of my practises are like that.

But from her PERCEPTION I can understand the actions. I perhaps let on I was more intelligent than I should have. Kept dumb. But women pick this part up of the intelligence and it's tough to hide. This woman that I've been in a relationship since last June isn't like that. She was what I would call a proper woman.

Don't get me wrong. I've only felt vindictive as the first girl was a complete idiot. I was able to let that go and move on quickly. I called her out on her idiocy as it didn't coInside with what she said to me. Dishonesty.

I have all to gain by being honest and only the wrong information to gather from you all being dishonest. The last thing I would do is piss on the people (you all here) rather than take heed. I'm a sincere honest guy who works hard and trains hard in sport.

That's the thing though...you haven't been honest here. If you think you have you're mistaken. Honesty would have been here's the story with her moving out, here are the signs i've seen lately ie less fighting and the whole list you posted. You didn't do that. You denied when people said she was going to break up, because according to you things were the same. You only revealed that there were these signs after the supposed break up but excused them when Jack called it out with, well that was only the past couple weeks. Well honesty would be saying everything that happened up to when you first posted. I cant go to a doctor's office and say I've had a headache for 2 weeks, when he asks me any other symptoms I say no, I deny his prescription because the other symptoms arent there, and then when it becomes serious say, well yeah I started having a fever and sore throar right before I first saw you but that only started around the time of the headache. Thats not be being honest.

I'm looking at it simply, the current idea of events is your now ex, lost feelings or wasn't sure if she should continue the relationship at some pt, and planned to move out without telling you in advance. Her not telling was shitty. But I have to ask myself, was she really wrong? I mean, what would you have done if she had told you months ago, I dont feel the same way, maybe we should break up. That would have been the right thing for her to do. Communicate with you. Would you have taken that maturely? Would you not taken it personally? Because you did here. Would you have tried to change her mind with how much xbox you play together or your value. Because those were brought up here. Or would you have done what you did, freeze her out. Try to use punishment to change her mind. Would you have told her she has to leave now, as a way of changing her mind, and she'd be left with no place? Would you have acted maturely and said, you know what, that's sad you dont want to be together but I understand. Broken up, and let her arrange herself to leave.

Funny enough, I have a HH today for a friend who works for another company and is leaving for a new one. His current company requires 2 weeks notice, but he didnt give it. He's just leaving Friday. It's shitty to the old company, but he had to do it that way because his current company has a history of treating leaving employees like shit before they leave and making it harder for them to. So in situations like this, move on, its over now, but think on how to improve your actions for the next girl. You DON'T communicate maturely. You didnt here. You DENY whats really going on. You did here. You blame other people. You did here. Not really an environment where any girl is gonna give you warning when her feelings are changing.

They say women are emotional, well its logic I see here. Both of you have different long term goals. She hasnt been single. Things had become boring. These were all things you knew. It's logical for her to make the choice to not continue. What you learn from this is, next time, find a woman who thinks like you do long term, or at the least who is ok with different views. Find a woman who has been through relationships and single life, so you know she's ready for something long term. Dating a woman who just got out of a 6 year relationship, 4 months later? Yeah, not a good choice. Make things fun, and dont date seriously someone whose schedule is like hers. Or if you work alot, find someone who is ok with that. You can change to a new gf, but if you pick with these variables still in place, a break up is gonna come. The error you made wasnt a silly xbox lol. There are like 10 errors in the set up of this relationship that are bound to cause something that goes no where. I could name off the top, getting serious with a chick after a 6 year relationship that soon, and having her move in with you that soon.

It was really bad choice like Neo said here. Personally i do not take serious to think seriously with damaged goods. Probably she needed time to fix the wounds from pre. relationship. Bad choices cause bad results.

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I'm going through a lot here mentally in terms of examining things and I'm a mature guy. I don't retaliate or react. I read what is being said and analyse things.

I acknowledge that I made errors. There were for sure things I could have done better. Once I changed work I focussed so much on it and less with her. We did so many fun things like travel 5 times/vacation etc. we went to Thailand for 3 weeks, Egypt, and some others so she knows I'm fun and can travel.

She got the impression things were more serious than they were I think. I brought up plans I had later for buying some real estate or a bigger place but not that I don't need her to do it. It sucks that I made some mistakes that in hindsight I didn't need to talk about to her. She started working in a school near me and it was pure coincidence and I let her stay at mine as her work was so close. She had to endure some shitty building works for 2 months with me also. She said she didn't mind but the "I love you"s started to become less frequent as Jan/Feb rolled around.

I sincerely hope, however , that you guys don't think that I was trying to be deceptive to you all. I've stared to work on me more right now. I do want this girl back and the only way I can do this is to become more attractive and to demonstrate later after a period of no contact all of the reasons why she fell in love with me.

That's my next plan. This one is worth pursuing. I know you guys will say something else but I'm willing to take responsibility for my own fuck ups and not repeat them. At the same time I know that a possibility is not ever getting back.

She however unblocked me from SPAM today. Why would a girl do that if she didn't want anymore contact?

I'm going through a lot here mentally in terms of examining things and I'm a mature guy. I don't retaliate or react. I read what is being said and analyse things.

I acknowledge that I made errors. There were for sure things I could have done better. Once I changed work I focussed so much on it and less with her. We did so many fun things like travel 5 times/vacation etc. we went to Thailand for 3 weeks, Egypt, and some others so she knows I'm fun and can travel.

She got the impression things were more serious than they were I think. I brought up plans I had later for buying some real estate or a bigger place but not that I don't need her to do it. It sucks that I made some mistakes that in hindsight I didn't need to talk about to her. She started working in a school near me and it was pure coincidence and I let her stay at mine as her work was so close. She had to endure some shitty building works for 2 months with me also. She said she didn't mind but the "I love you"s started to become less frequent as Jan/Feb rolled around.

I sincerely hope, however , that you guys don't think that I was trying to be deceptive to you all. I've stared to work on me more right now. I do want this girl back and the only way I can do this is to become more attractive and to demonstrate later after a period of no contact all of the reasons why she fell in love with me.

That's my next plan. This one is worth pursuing. I know you guys will say something else but I'm willing to take responsibility for my own fuck ups and not repeat them. At the same time I know that a possibility is not ever getting back.

She however unblocked me from SPAM today. Why would a girl do that if she didn't want anymore contact?

I just realized that I can't post about this any longer as she now technically isn't my gf anymore. I don't wanna get banned

Now that we know that you really don't want a new and better one, what is it that you think you need to do to become more attractive to the woman who betrayed your trust? More importantly, with all of the claims of how great and desirable that you are...why is it that you're not good enough for this girl?

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Boy oh boy you've got a whole chorus of Jackals in your head telling you how you are. how you've failed her, and how you've failed yourself. It's not to anyone's amazement how this sort of destructive, imposed thinking prevents you from moving on.

The question isn't whether you should reach-out to her because she's unblocked you from a texting app, rather the question is should you, and how would doing so be life-serving?

Again...be honest with yourself.... Leaving after she said I dont know is reacting. Ignoring her storm of messages IS reacting. A strong freezeout IS reacting.
If things weren't that serious you won't be trying to win her back. That means its serious. You know what you'd do with a girl that it wasnt that serious with, move on. No, it was that serious.

Again...be honest with YOURSELF. Everything you've said so far has been downright denial.

Its her female friend!
It's not

There are no other signs!
There were a ton of signs

I dont react!
I ignored her calls/vmails and dropped her stuff off = reaction

It was not as serious as she thought!
Its worth pursuing and I'm gonna work on myself to get her back.

I'm in the plus with expediture!
Damn...she got an xbox

We have so much fun together!
Ive been too busy for her

I'm a mature guy!
Should I ask her after she cries for better sex?

I will be asking her open ended questions tomorrow!
She said something, I just left when she was in the bathroom and never spoke again

There's been less fighting!
We never fought

Thats why I think you were controlling, because so far everything you've said has been the opposite.

And the worse part, is you'll still call yourself mature and level headed. Be honest with yourself first.

I want a take a look from another perspective. What if is she really histerical bitch? If all we r speaking while we are considering that she is mentaly healthy person?

I knew in my life dosens of histerical women, they could act in many various diffent shitty actions. Inc. everything that OP said here to us. So Op, forget her, make invesment to yourself, even if we say thousand things here, you are the one who knows the truth. So be respectful yourself, learn from your mistakes be a better man. Not for us, Just for yourself.

Peace

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