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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:47 pm 
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OP, it's a good thing that you're taking all of these in stride. What happened, happened. Next time, whether you decide to be confrontational or passive-aggressive, always remember that at that point in any relationship, that's the point of no return. You will just be reacting.

Always be proactive. As men, the bar that society places on us is higher than women. It's almost always the man's fault. For instance, there are lots of laws that are grossly unfavorable to men when it comes to relationships between men and women.

Just suck it all in and man up from this point forward. Depending on the study, 70% to 80% of women are not having any orgasm (just ONE orgasm) with their men in relationships. Congratulations then if you firmly believe that you belong to the top 20% or 30% of men who can consistently give any woman at least one orgasm.

I have no doubts that you're a man since you want to fix things up instead of just whining and complaining. You have a very positive attitude bro. Good luck.

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These posts are so damn long. From the pieces I read from op, drop the girl. That does not make you insecure in my mind, the checking of her messages did. Now, your subconscious speculation is confirmed and you need to move on. You do not need some elaborate excuse to break it off. Grab your nuts and take them elsewhere, bro.

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I appreciate your responses. Yea this relationship was fucked for a while. We both are to blame and definitely no going back (not that I even want to at this point). I'm glad I posted because it clarified a few things for me so thanks for the somewhat brutal honesty. Take care fellas


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why did I look??
I'm not going to advocate your being a snoopy bastard, but I'll tell you why you looked.

Blame all the meds you want, your only lying to yourself.

You looked because you have a gut feeling she's being disloyal, 99.9% of the time your gut is correct.

Bitching that much at only 3 months in! It was headed for the toilet anyway.

It's now time to flush.
flush, flush, flush, flush, flush!

it's too bad we can't all gather around a toilet somewhere and chant this until you do it!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:21 am 
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Fuck these guys saying your insecure , you felt the need to check her shit and it was for good reason. The only thing you did wrong was try to hide the fact that you went through it , don't be passive aggressive... Be a Fucking man , you had every right to go through her phone as she's your girl and your intuition told you to look, and it was right. People saying its insecure to investigate whether your being cheated on or not are fools... They are the type to act like they don't care until its too pate and the bitch is getting drunk and gangbanged by several guys.

I had the same problem and I was never able to trust her from that point on. We broke up and i found someone even better ... Don't bring down your self worth .... The boarders of cheating is defined by you , if you made it clear your not comfortable with her talking to other guys , then just drop her and move on ... She's not even what you want and your lying to yourself at that point.

Game multiple girls and set your ground rules if things move forward, either they comply or move the fuck on.


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Fuck these guys saying your insecure , you felt the need to check her shit and it was for good reason. The only thing you did wrong was try to hide the fact that you went through it , don't be passive aggressive... Be a Fucking man , you had every right to go through her phone as she's your girl and your intuition told you to look, and it was right. People saying its insecure to investigate whether your being cheated on or not are fools... They are the type to act like they don't care until its too pate and the bitch is getting drunk and gangbanged by several guys.

I had the same problem and I was never able to trust her from that point on. We broke up and i found someone even better ... Don't bring down your self worth .... The boarders of cheating is defined by you , if you made it clear your not comfortable with her talking to other guys , then just drop her and move on ... She's not even what you want and your lying to yourself at that point.

Game multiple girls and set your ground rules if things move forward, either they comply or move the fuck on.
You had the same problem because you're insecure 8)

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Fuck these guys saying your insecure , you felt the need to check her shit and it was for good reason. The only thing you did wrong was try to hide the fact that you went through it , don't be passive aggressive... Be a Fucking man , you had every right to go through her phone as she's your girl and your intuition told you to look, and it was right. People saying its insecure to investigate whether your being cheated on or not are fools... They are the type to act like they don't care until its too pate and the bitch is getting drunk and gangbanged by several guys.

I had the same problem and I was never able to trust her from that point on. We broke up and i found someone even better ... Don't bring down your self worth .... The boarders of cheating is defined by you , if you made it clear your not comfortable with her talking to other guys , then just drop her and move on ... She's not even what you want and your lying to yourself at that point.

Game multiple girls and set your ground rules if things move forward, either they comply or move the fuck on.
You had the same problem because you're insecure 8)
Call it what your feeble mind wants to, but when your girlfriend is getting a train ran on her and your making out with all the dudes dicks the very same night, all for ignoring your intuition, your gonna wish you wernt pretending to be an alpha male because a real alpha doesnt repress his emotions and feelings. There you have it, Playgirl.


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Fuck these guys saying your insecure , you felt the need to check her shit and it was for good reason. The only thing you did wrong was try to hide the fact that you went through it , don't be passive aggressive... Be a Fucking man , you had every right to go through her phone as she's your girl and your intuition told you to look, and it was right. People saying its insecure to investigate whether your being cheated on or not are fools... They are the type to act like they don't care until its too pate and the bitch is getting drunk and gangbanged by several guys.

I had the same problem and I was never able to trust her from that point on. We broke up and i found someone even better ... Don't bring down your self worth .... The boarders of cheating is defined by you , if you made it clear your not comfortable with her talking to other guys , then just drop her and move on ... She's not even what you want and your lying to yourself at that point.

Game multiple girls and set your ground rules if things move forward, either they comply or move the fuck on.
You had the same problem because you're insecure 8)
Call it what your feeble mind wants to, but when your girlfriend is getting a train ran on her and your making out with all the dudes dicks the very same night, all for ignoring your intuition, your gonna wish you wernt pretending to be an alpha male because a real alpha doesnt repress his emotions and feelings. There you have it, Playgirl.

I agree with this line of thought. If you see warning signs, confirm. Insecurity would be digging through her shit with absolutely no reason to do so. But IMO you're fucking yourself over if you just sit back thinking "well if she cheats on me I'll find someone better" when she has more red flags than a commie.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:45 pm 
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Ok I'm 29 and my GF is 27 and we've been exclusively dating for three months now. We have our ups and downs like everyone else. We do however tend to get in petty arguments and sometimes they blow up bigger than they should. I put blame in our conflicting communication styles and most certainly some insecurities on both of our sides.

I advice you to checkout Marshall Rosenberg's Non-Violent Communication seminar on youtube. It speaks about getting in touch with one's needs as well as hearing the needs beneath another's words; extremely effective tool for any relationship, particularly for the one you have with yourself, first and foremost. The "insecurities" comes from an ambivalence in conveying your needs to each other and to see them as 'gift' opportunities rather than as criticisms or faults on the other.

But for the most part it's been pretty good so far with the potential for LTR. I'm a confident man that knows his boundaries when it comes to a relationship and privacy. With that being said, I had a total lapse in judgement this past weekend. I was sick and hopped up on meds and me and my girl were kinda on edge due to a little argument we had but we planned to spend the whole weekend together.

"Lapse in judgment" = intuition in this case. I wouldn't chastise yourself over this, your intuition is working perfectly fine, your concerns just weren't brought to consciousness so you rationalize it as you having done something wrong and likely feel guilt as a result, ironically. I'm not saying I agree with the behavior, but you did it for a reason.

We just planned on relaxing because she was a little under the weather as well. We had a good Friday night, cooked dinner and chilled. When it was time to go to bed I couldn't sleep because the meds had me all hopped up. She fell asleep and for some reason beyond my comprehension, I impulsively grabbed her phone uggggh. Honestly I've never done this before! She has given me no reason to suspect any cheating but I do have some trust issues from past relationships.

From what you've shared, I'm not entirely convinced of that, and I'm pretty sure you aren't either.

I was open about my insecurities and we both felt it wouldn't be an issue. So I go through her texts and lots of threads from guys and definitely some flirting. There was even a picture of a Martini and a caption saying "waiting for you" to some guy. That was from, I think, the day before where she never mentioned she was getting drinks. She didn't lie but I was unaware that she was at happy hour. There was another text to a pastry chef where he showed her a picture of a cake. She responds "I want that!" He responds "me or the cake?" and she says "both ;)" Like WTF! I have to say we did break up for about a week a few weeks back and I don't remember the timestamp of that conversation.

This looks like the case of a 27 y.o. (presumably grown) woman who doesn't know how to conduct herself appropriately/set her own boundaries with men. We don't know her intent, but it's not a good look. My last gf was doing something very similar, and in fact I'd peer into her FB and texts every once and again and often found what I was looking for. Not good, and I can guarantee your checking behavior will only increase. Bottom line, there's a lack of trust and safety in this relationship


I know she has a lot of guy friends (and gay friends) and is very sociable because she plays in multiple bands and needs to get people to shows. There were a few other texts that seemed off but I don't want to take things out of context (even with the two examples I've given). I finally check myself and stop looking but I'm obviously infuriated and hurt for two reasons.. 1. that I even violated her privacy in the first place and 2. what I found. She eventually wakes up and can tell I'm not happy. I try to play it off but we start talking. I never tell her that I looked through her phone but like a conniving person I became that night, I started asking her questions related to what I saw. It didn't get anywhere and I eventually dropped it. I truly try to let it go and we sleep close to each other.

You had immediate needs that couldn't be ignored (need for safety/security, and the need for trust both which you didn't have in that moment). You can convey that to her (and this is where Non-Violent Communication helps immensely) in a non-aggressive way. "I feel sad and anxious when my partner engages with guys who are flirting with them. I would feel more secure in this relationship if she have some stronger boundaries with the opp sex (define what those boundaries are, while being reasonable about it)", for example.

The next day we are cool but that is all I'm thinking about and it's just consuming my thoughts. She's around me so I can't truly process everything either. We don't fight but are definitely distant from one another. I blame it on that I'm sick and we just carry on through the day.

Obviously you're feeling unsafe around her.

That night I can't sleep again and like a freaking idiot I go through her phone again. I see she deleted those two conversations that I mentioned (I'm assuming she picked up I knew something was up). I was out on my porch doing this and while I'm still looking she comes out and asks where her phone is. I play dumb and say it's in my room even though she thought she had it in her backpack. I go in before her and place it on the ground by the bed and she eventually goes in and finds it. I continue to play dumb but doesn't seem like she believed me. She wants to leave and I'm just feeling odd emotions I've never felt before because of my immature and uncharacteristic behavior. I tell her we need to break up because of all this arguing and being uncomfortable. She says ok and leaves. I send her a couple petty texts and she says "hope you found what you're looking for in my phone" I deny again and that was that. I text her the next day to call me but she says there's nothing to discuss so I leave it alone.

Passive-aggression never deals with anything, it only perpetuates and gets further away from the root of the issue.So you're wanting her to mind read and figure out your needs and meet them; won't happen.

Now before I possibly get berated for invading her privacy.. I fully understand what I did and am ashamed. It was a total lapse in judgement and an isolated incident. I've never done it before and I will never do that again. And to anyone else reading, I urge you to not do it as well. You never find anything good and your mind will play tricks with what it sees. Sometimes there is shady things going on (which might be in my case) and sometimes a text from a friend or even a gay friend can be taken out of context and interpreted incorrectly. And if you suspect foul play in a relationship then odds are it's doomed. I didn't expect foul play and have pretty good intuition. That is what is confusing me about my behavior.. why did I look??
Is your mind really playing tricks on you? Or did you just find what your body was telling you all along? You're going through a lot of cognitive dissonance SPAM because on the hand you went with your intuition/gut, but on the other you feel you've done an injustice to the relationship by breaching the trust, which likely was never there to begin with or you wouldn't be in this situation.
Now I'm just not sure how to approach this. I don't know what to believe about the texts and I don't know if I should tell her I looked and confront her about it (that is if she will even talk to me and discuss it). Do I continue to deny? I feel if I come clean that will be the end because I invaded her privacy. If I deny, I'm not sure if she will believe me. I made such a stupid mess and at this point just want to make sense of it and move forward one way or another. I really do love this girl and don't know what to do. Any thoughts? Comments? Suggestions??
Have a frank discussion with her about your needs, and what those unmet needs are in the relationship from the frame of how the two of you can build this together as a team, not as a "you failed me, now you better fix it" mentality. I'd go listen to some NVC before anything.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:08 pm 
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Thank you all for posting your opinions, especially N2; I appreciate the thorough critique.

Just a quick update if anyone is interested: I have truly realized a great deal about myself these past couple weeks and getting subjective opinions on here has definitely helped. We have been NC for about a week now and have no intentions on breaking that anytime soon (if ever). I'm no longer concerned with her actions and behaviors or the overall outcome of this relationship. I have fully been focused on myself and what I contributed to make the dynamic turn hostile and unhealthy. Jealousy, neediness, and lack of judgement has been somewhat of a pattern in my LTR's in my life. I do very well single and in casual FWB relationships but something about letting go into the abyss has always backfired. My state of mind turns negative and anxious and the common factor in all of my relationships is me. I'm not beating myself up over this but merely acknowledging and accepting my part. I've noticed some of my tendencies have also been evident in my relationships with my friends and family. I have developed passive-aggressive tendencies, ignoring the boundaries I set and, as N2 pointed out, somewhat violent communication. In other words, I haven't developed into the Man I want to be within the confines of an intimate relationship. It is obvious to me that there are definitely some issues I need to tackle in order to have more sustaining, happy and healthy relationships with everyone in my life and most importantly with myself. Thanks again fellas.. much abliged


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Thank you all for posting your opinions, especially N2; I appreciate the thorough critique.

Just a quick update if anyone is interested: I have truly realized a great deal about myself these past couple weeks and getting subjective opinions on here has definitely helped. We have been NC for about a week now and have no intentions on breaking that anytime soon (if ever). I'm no longer concerned with her actions and behaviors or the overall outcome of this relationship. I have fully been focused on myself and what I contributed to make the dynamic turn hostile and unhealthy. Jealousy, neediness, and lack of judgement has been somewhat of a pattern in my LTR's in my life. I do very well single and in casual FWB relationships but something about letting go into the abyss has always backfired. My state of mind turns negative and anxious and the common factor in all of my relationships is me. I'm not beating myself up over this but merely acknowledging and accepting my part. I've noticed some of my tendencies have also been evident in my relationships with my friends and family. I have developed passive-aggressive tendencies, ignoring the boundaries I set and, as N2 pointed out, somewhat violent communication. In other words, I haven't developed into the Man I want to be within the confines of an intimate relationship. It is obvious to me that there are definitely some issues I need to tackle in order to have more sustaining, happy and healthy relationships with everyone in my life and most importantly with myself. Thanks again fellas.. much abliged

Good on you. Some gems w re to self awareness and your ability to expedite the process by going Nc and focusing on you. I d tip my hat to if I actually wore one.

Keep doing more of what you're doing your mos def on the right track.


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Alot of great posts on this subject.

One thing...A real cheater cleans his or her phone, texts and facebook messages before it's found.

Bottom line...Trust your gut and intuition. Because it will affect the rest of your life.

It's better to cut the ties before the kids, divorce and and $1,000 a month child support. Once a cheater always a cheater.

These issues that have far reaching consequences that can affect your life for many years.


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