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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:20 am 
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Ive been in this relationship now for 2 weeks and as the title says, there is something
missing. Being this a Pua forum and being in this kind of situation would be for the
most people here hilariusly disturbing i assume, but i would appriciate any advice.
And for the background: she is going to collage, 22years old, virgin, likes porn.

Appart of sex-or-gtfo-move, any thoughts?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:22 pm 
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you're an idiot! I'm saying this to help you btw. 2 weeks! That's nothing. It took me 6 months to have sex with my virgin girlfriend, and I am not ashamed. They do not understand sex since they are virgins. Be patient.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:48 pm 
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She is waiting for a good moment to have that sex with you. I would end up making out with her. Leave go check email. come back escalate on her. Tell she says i can't do that. go grab a drink from the kitchen. let her come to you. your not in a hurry. go back watch a movie in bed escalate her. get her pantys off. She isn't thinking at this point it is all just happening. Which is what she wants. go down on her put a condom on. go back up and kiss her as you go into her.
Disclaimer if she says no stop totally. You don't want to get into anything that can get you in trouble. if she is just putting up token resistance will work.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:16 pm 
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One of the approaches that you can take. Approximate time to D-Day = 2-4 weeks. Very high chance of continuing relationship using this method.

• At a time that you are not doing anything sexual with her, tell her that you want to fuck her. Make sure you describe what you want to do to her so she can imagine it. She will remember what you said.
• After that, stop talking about sex completely. Never mention it, pretend like it doesn't exist. Still keep eating her our / fingering her / kissing her , all that good stuff.
• She will know that she can have sex with you, and your fingering and kissing won't be enough for her.
• She will bring up sex. When she does, she will shit test you to see if you're fucking with her. Tell her that you don't want to do it yet, tell her you need more time.
• The fact that she brought it up indicates that she wants it. Keep a condom handy, you'll be having sex within a week.
• Keep going down on her and kissing her, and she will just break and say that she wants sex. Put on some music and fuck her good.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:53 pm 
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no-name: thank you for this advice.

Things are going more or less very slowly; i do have some thoughts about the whole relationship and her contribution to it- the lack of it is disturbing, but having lots of things to do, doesn't have such a effect on me as would otherwise.

Any more way to engage such a situation?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:39 pm 
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I've recently found myself in a similar situation. Been seeing a girl for the past 3 weeks and been on at least 4 or 5 dates. We hooked up on the first date and had sex on the second (took a lot of work/convincing). However, every time we get back to my place its pretty much just undressing and a lot of kissing. Whenever I try to escalate it she smiles and basically says nope.

I know she likes me a lot... but I just don't understand where she's coming from. Does she think this will get me into a relationship? Any tips on how to break down that wall will be greatly appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:52 am 
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You are forgetting that this girl has never had sex. She probably wants her first time to be something special, so make it special. You know: rose petals, candles, going out for diner, that sort of thing. Also, do not emphasize sexual acts, but the enjoyment you will give her.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:30 pm 
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You are forgetting that this girl has never had sex. She probably wants her first time to be something special, so make it special. You know: rose petals, candles, going out for diner, that sort of thing. Also, do not emphasize sexual acts, but the enjoyment you will give her.

This might be good advice.... I would add find out what her objections are DIRECTLY! Then break them down. The overall idea is to turn a woman on so much that she cant help it. I know youre young but read some book on arousal. Turn her on and push her little by little.

I met a girl once who was a virgin.... friend of a friend type thing. She had a bf of six months. Haha, my friend and I fought over her until I bowed out so he would back off another. LSS, took him 6 days! more than likely your girl is ready for sex. Wants to be part of the group her friends are in. In the case I just mentioned she needed a man to lead her, seduce her, make her feel sexy, and close the deal!

In conclusion, Dial in the right frequency and she will beg for you to fuck her! :-)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:29 pm 
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You are forgetting that this girl has never had sex. She probably wants her first time to be something special, so make it special. You know: rose petals, candles, going out for diner, that sort of thing. Also, do not emphasize sexual acts, but the enjoyment you will give her.

This might be good advice.... I would add find out what her objections are DIRECTLY! Then break them down. The overall idea is to turn a woman on so much that she cant help it. I know youre young but read some book on arousal. Turn her on and push her little by little.

I met a girl once who was a virgin.... friend of a friend type thing. She had a bf of six months. Haha, my friend and I fought over her until I bowed out so he would back off another. LSS, took him 6 days! more than likely your girl is ready for sex. Wants to be part of the group her friends are in. In the case I just mentioned she needed a man to lead her, seduce her, make her feel sexy, and close the deal!

In conclusion, Dial in the right frequency and she will beg for you to fuck her! :-)
So basicly with "dialing the right frequency" you ment "mentioning she needed a man to lead her, seduce her, make her feel sexy".

My plan is to make her want it, and after that taking a step back and observe her actions.
The thing is she isnt a touchy person (other girls- younger than her, touch me more and im not even in relationship with them. With touching i ment conversational moves- like touch arm, elbow, ect...).
And im anticipating her actions to be escalational ones.

This virgin thingy is kind of a mess.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:12 pm 
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Highly recommend against de-flowering virgins, for several reasons:

1. The sex won't be good for you

2. The sex won't be good for her (it's going to hurt, a lot)

3. She is going to unload an entire childhood's worth of Disney fantasies onto the first man she sleeps with.

Are you sure you want to be that guy?

Can you handle the kind of emotions that she's going to throw at you afterward?

Do you want to?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:48 pm 
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Highly recommend against de-flowering virgins, for several reasons:

1. The sex won't be good for you

2. The sex won't be good for her (it's going to hurt, a lot)

3. She is going to unload an entire childhood's worth of Disney fantasies onto the first man she sleeps with.
1. Why ? i can still teach her
2. She already uses dildos
3. well,we shall see.

Im having more of a problem of making her want me. We openly talk about sex ect, but she wants to take it slowly.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:08 pm 
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1. If you'd rather spend time and energy "teaching" a girl how to fuck, rather than find someone who already knows how to please you and understands her own body, that's a choice you're making.

2. Does her dildo yank her head back and slap her ass while it jackhammers her? If not, it's going to be a slightly different experience. If it does...link to product page please :D

3. "We shall see" is a really poor choice of response. You are essentially saying "yeah it might come with shit tons of problems and drama, but I'm willing to take that risk because I need to work on foresight and learning how to plan for success. What if the sex is awful, and you decide you don't want to see her again? Then the guy that took her virginity pump-and-dumped her, which will mess her up and make her despise you (and possibly throw a false rape accusation your way).

I'm not trying to scare you here, I'm just saying....use your head.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:59 pm 
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1. If you'd rather spend time and energy "teaching" a girl how to fuck, rather than find someone who already knows how to please you and understands her own body, that's a choice you're making.

2. Does her dildo yank her head back and slap her ass while it jackhammers her? If not, it's going to be a slightly different experience. If it does...link to product page please :D

3. "We shall see" is a really poor choice of response. You are essentially saying "yeah it might come with shit tons of problems and drama, but I'm willing to take that risk because I need to work on foresight and learning how to plan for success. What if the sex is awful, and you decide you don't want to see her again? Then the guy that took her virginity pump-and-dumped her, which will mess her up and make her despise you (and possibly throw a false rape accusation your way).

I'm not trying to scare you here, I'm just saying....use your head.
Im not asking for an argument against it, but thank you regardless. I might be too hasty, but do take into consideration that she is a 22 years old virgin. I dont know how many of those have you met.


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