So.. I'm 21 years old and I've had sex with girl number 20 yesterday. (With an average of HB8.) I started gaming when I was about 19 years old, lost my virginity when I was 18 so I think I'm doing quite alright.

My problem is though.. I have little to no experience with LTR. Once I had a girlfriend for 4 months but the rest were just ONS's and short lived sex relationships.

It always seems that the girls I actually like to keep are the ones I can't get and it's pissing me off a little bit.


I know what I'm doing wrong though. When I just want to sleep with a girl my game is great since I don't really care if she comes with me or not, but if I want to girl to come and stay with me I start to overthink and it shows in my game.

Also I'm easily bored so if a girl I actually like does come home with me easily I'll lose my interest..



Has anyone had the same problems but overcame them? I'd actually like to have a serious girlfriend so any help would be appreciated!

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Quantity. For someday, you will find quality. And you gotta do something in the meantime.

In that case it's your inner game that is lacking. If when "gaming" you are putting on a front and being someone you are not then when you are in any situation that you have little experience in your game will suffer. You just gotta relax man, and you shouldn't really be looking for a relationship based on your game, if you are constantly trying to game your girlfriend into being with you, as you will if this is the basis of the relationship, you will face a very difficult, uphill struggle to keep her. Trust me, I've done this.
Then you haven't found a decent girl. If she's not interesting enough to keep your attention, investment and affections then you shouldn't bother trying to force it.


Yeah i used to be constantly loving the chase and then getting bored and then doing it again. It's a waste of effort man. Enjoy the chase but don't look for a relationship. Any healthy relationship is NOT pre-meditated. If you're looking for a girlfriend the whole time you will latch onto the wrong one and one of you WILL get hurt. Either because you'll lose interest or one of you wont be right for the other.

My current gf is a girl who i had a long term friendship with before hand, then we hooked up once we realised we both had strong feelings etc. At no point until we decided to be boyfriend and girlfriend did I think I needed a girlfriend.

If it's gonna happen with a girl it will happen FOR that girl. Not for the sake of just getting a girlfriend.