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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:12 pm 
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My oneitis - Gamed girl (Julie) in club. Thought she was just a horny rave chick. Turned out to be fascinating, hugely intelligent, and talented person. We have so much in common likes, dislikes, perspectives, future plans, opinions. Never got on with a girl so much in my life. She tells me early on she loves me. I feel something very strong but am not sure it is love. I fuck things up due to my sexual insecurities (was a virgin at the time) and my lies make her loose trust in me. Meeting up becomes tricky. Feel resistance. She tends to agree but then flakes. Spend last weekend with her before going travelling. We say an intense good bye and I tell her she is the first girl I've ever loved. I later follow up with a letter explaining how I feel towards her and telling her my regrets for lies etc. I say I don't want a response I just wanted her to know how I feel. Perhaps AFC but this is not a normal girl/situation. I am in love.

Two days after saying good bye to Julie - Meet and game new girl Abbey. We get on great, very sexual relationship (we don't go out we just go straight to each other's place). I am aware Abbey is / was probably a rebound. She even asked me that. I was honest. With Abbey everything is straightforward. No flaking. We both make each other a priority. So I extend my time in the country by another month before going travelling. We hook up every weekend and she starts coming to my place during the week (about 1.5 hours out of town). The power of giving girl great sex :) We spend the whole of my final weekend together, meet each others friends. Very cool, never awkward, never a dull moment, great fun.

So what's the problem? Well I haven't been able to get Julie off my mind. When i first went to bed with Abbey I was seeing images of Julie (they seemed to look similar with the lights down). There was this gig we went to where I was wishing Julie was with me instead of my new girl. I've been taking Abbey to the same places we went together. Literally repeating days out. I got a 'I miss you' message from Julie and we agreed to go to a festival together in town. She flaked. I'd just spent a wicked night with Abbey but on leaving her place on Sunday I kind of forgot all of that and was just annoyed that I wasn't going to meet up with Julie.

It's so messed up. I have a perfectly great girl who is so good to me and I get the feeling is falling in love (if she hasn't already). But I don't get that same feeling as I did for Julie. I don't know if I'm never going to feel 'it' for the new girl whilst I am still clinging on to an old girl. I just don't seem to want to accept that we won't be together. It's been 2 months since I last saw her. I still can't get her off my mind. It's like an obsession. I hate it. I hate that someone can have so much power over me. Maybe this is because she was my first love? Everything between us was amazing except for sex (was having erectile dysfunction which I have since solved). I am back in town in 1 month. I have told myself I am going to give it one more shot and if it doesn't happen I'll call it quits.

How do I solve my oneitis?

* Have you had an oneitis?
* Has it prevented or messed with your future relationships?
* How have you got over it? Getting with another girl hasn't really taken my mind off it like I was expecting. If anything it's made things harder.
* How long did it take?

Love - that's one hell of a powerful emotion / chemical.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:29 pm 
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Give it time is the only answer I can give you, I’m experience some of the things you said, with my ex girlfriend, had plenty of girls, but for some fuck reason, after sometime I get bored, and start comparing them with my ex, I had hotter girls, that treated me much better, but she until now is the one, she put me completely afc. Believe me it was worst, but time heals, try to meet girls , love is something that comes and goes. Probably abbey is not enough for you at this point you will find someone, no one is irreplaceable. And I agree with you when you say it things become harder because we start comparing them one is “FANTASY” perfect in any way, and the other is the real one, and she can never reach that pedestal.
-Yes it fucked one relationship with a girl; I was hooking at that time.
-What helped me was deleting her number, facebook , cutting contact so I wouldn’t go to my afc ways.
- Still on the process of forgetting my oneitis, but recently knew a girl that captive my attention more than other girls, don’t know if its because of the challenge she gives but its hell a lot better since im not comparing, they are so different that impossible
GL mate.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:20 pm 
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There is no such thing as "Love". Don't get me wrong. What I mean is that there is no singular concept of love like there is "Truth". So what would you define as "love"? What I would define as love is what I see you have, more or less, with Abbey. Julie? You don't have anything with her, but the residual chemicals from some strong pheromones. You say you're not going to feel "it" for a "new girl", but you met them practically at the same time. "It" is a very fluid concept.

That's how I see it. But ultimately, YOU'RE the one in the situation. If you keep dwelling on Julie instead of Abbey, Abbey will eventually be gone.

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I had hotter girls, that treated me much better, but she until now is the one, she put me completely afc.
It's nuts right? I'm totally aware it's crazy to act like this but it's so hard to overcome. As you say totally AFC.
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Believe me it was worst, but time heals, try to meet girls , love is something that comes and goes.
Good old time. The solver of so many problems :)
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Probably abbey is not enough for you at this point you will find someone, no one is irreplaceable.
True. Abbey is wicked but I don't see a future. I view my life as one long trip. If our trips joined it would be fun but I don't think it would be exceptional.
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And I agree with you when you say it things become harder because we start comparing them one is “FANTASY” perfect in any way, and the other is the real one, and she can never reach that pedestal.
That's an interesting thought.
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What helped me was deleting her number, facebook , cutting contact so I wouldn’t go to my afc ways.
I came so close to doing this recently. Couldn't quite manage to cut loose though :(
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That's a great link thanks.
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So what would you define as "love"? What I would define as love is what I see you have, more or less, with Abbey.
My list - High levels of attraction, a great friendship, an intellectual connection, respect, complete trust, a crazy bond, fascination, and caring.

Funnily enough I would say I have all these things with Abbey but I just don't feel that extra something. It's like I would look forward to doing things with Julie. Everything with her was hightened. A simple day out wandering the city was a fascinating experience. I plan things like a festival and want her to be there as I know it will make it amazing. I would honestly say my days spent with her were some of the best of my life. I don't get this with Abbey. It's more a feeling of 'take it or leave it'. I'm not fussed. I meet up with her as I know it will be fun and there will be great sex. I wouldn't bust a gut to make a meeting happen though. I'm sure this attitude makes her so much more into me. It also makes the relationship so damm easy for me. She travels to see me, cook me meals, doesn't mind me turning up to her place drunk. I feel I can kind of get away with murder. That's cool but doesn't make me happy in the same way.
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Julie? You don't have anything with her, but the residual chemicals from some strong pheromones.
I completely agree. I'm clinging on because I don't want to give up on the idea of a future of us together. I really could see us sharing a life together. I would even go as far as to say I can see her as the mother of my children. I've never met someone like her before. My mates agreed, she is truly unique. I would change plans and make sacrifices (in fact I did) to make a relationship between us happen.
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You say you're not going to feel "it" for a "new girl", but you met them practically at the same time. "It" is a very fluid concept.
A misunderstanding here. Was seeing Julie for 3 months. I met Abbey 2 days after saying good bye to Julie.
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That's how I see it. But ultimately, YOU'RE the one in the situation. If you keep dwelling on Julie instead of Abbey, Abbey will eventually be gone.
Too true bro.

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What the person don't know is that he already said the answer: he wants her too much. He has become needy, insecure and confused. Three desastrous elements in pick up. No girl ever wants a guy who is needy, insecure and confused.
Yep :)
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And that's why you have to strongly understand that, if you would ever want a chance with her, you have to get over your oneitis and break contact with her.
Kind of realised this. I cut contact for 1 month. Will be 3 months by the time I suggest a meet up again (back from travels).
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Oneitis is a sort of obsession or addiction. Often people with oneitis are addicted to the feeling of love or their oneitis hormones, and that's why it's damn hard to get over some girls.When you red the word "addiction", there was probably a bell ringing. Yes that's right! You hear the word "addiction" a lot when learning about drugs and alcohol. And guess what? Getting over oneitis is similar as getting over a drugs or alcohol addiction.
That's an interesting thought. It definitely feels like withdrawal syndromes.
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- Why do I like this girl so much?
Hugely talented, so intelligent, thoughtful, expressive, caring, athletic, good looking, funny, artistic, generous, sexy, optimistic, driven, genuine, enthusiastic, friendly, open minded, cute. Should I go on?
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- Why did I allow myself to have oneitis/ such a huge crush on her?
Everything was great until we hit the bedroom. I've potentially lost a girl because of an impotence problem caused by porn addiction which I didn't understand at the time - see yourbainonporn.com . So I am left with this feeling of regret. Had I known the cause of the problem at the time (now solved things) I wouldn't of spun lies which lost her trust. Now that I don't have this problem I feel the final piece of the puzzle is in place but perhaps things between us will now never work because of what took place. If so I have learnt from this experience and will be more prepared for next time.
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- Why should she be any different of other girls?
I've just never met someone who I had this kind of bond with before. We are so similar, finish each other sentences. I just love the way she interacts and perceives the world. She's just so different to anyone else I've ever met. My mates said she is truly unique. Other girls I meet just feel so bland in comparison. It's like she has set the benchmark of what I look for in a girl.
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Often, oneitis occurs when you are confused or when you have a confidence issue and low inner game. You will never see a player getting oneitis of girls he easily got. Yet, when the player meets an equal, that means a very hot, intelligent pushpull girl with whom the player flirts, but who seems very hard to get, the player might get obsessed by the girl because he never had this experience before and is very confused.
So we are saying we should only have a relationship with a girl who is 'underneath' us. If we go for a girl that is 'better' then we will be AFC? So the only way to get the better girl and keep alpha is to improve yourself first. Interesting :)
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Chances are thus big that you have oneitis over this girl because she seems perfect and she is very hard to reach and you are confused.
Spot on.
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If you had a lot of confidence or a high self esteem, you wouldn´t think of her as perfect. You wouldn´t put her way above yourself. Because that´s what oneitis often actualy is: putting her above you.
It's not so much putting her above me. It's that I know we could be doing some great things together. Not having her feels like we are both missing out on these experiences.
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Now you might think: “so now I just got to game as many girls, so that I will be the confident player who doesn’t need her anymore.”
This is quite comparable to what many other people say: “just get over her and fuck other girls”. But before you get over enthusiastic by the idea, I say “STOP!”. Because this is horribly wrong and one of the most overlooked aspects of the game.
Yeah a quick rebound girl hasn't seemed to of helped me.
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This is where many men go wrong. This is where you possibly sometimes go wrong. This is where I even sometimes go wrong.
And this is: you NEVER should look validiation in pick up by other women. Or in other words: you should never look for women to make you feel good about yourself.
It's not about validation. It's about having a great time. Imagine you have a awesome friend. You don't want to hang out with them to get validation. You hang out because you know you will have a wicked time.
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In fact, it’s you who should be able, have the power, to make other people feel good (by themself), and you can do this by being confident.
This is how it started out. She said I made her feel amazing. I showed her new things, places, experiences. She thanked me for all of this and said you had become so happy. But things slipped when I realised how much I was into her and a real fear of loosing her developed. I guess that's a personal insecurity caused by a lack of relationship experience.


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Close to 2 months later and Abbey is now my girlfriend. She's told me she's never felt this way about anyone else before. Her attraction levels are very high. Lots of great sex. Talking about going away together, plans to meet family etc.

The problem? Julie is still in my head. I've stopped initiating contact. I sent a couple of one word replies 'yes' when she asked me if I was back in town (have been away travelling). I guess she wouldn't ask me that if I was totally out of her mind. Deep down I really want to see her again. I'm not even sure if it's a sexual thing anymore. I just have this strong desire to spend some time with her.

The advice I read was 'Give it time' and 'date other girls' and 'change your environment'. Well it's been 5 months, I've been regularly fucking another girl, gamed girls in bars, had some day 2's, and been away travelling for a couple of months. It's not really helped. Stumped...


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Maybe you should go see Julie once. Take her to coffee or something simple. See how you feel about her then. Compare her to the experiences you're having with Abbey and see which one makes you happier. That's the ultimate goal anyway, to find the one that makes you the happiest.

You never know, once you see her again you might forget why you liked her so much in the first place, and lose your attraction for her. You may notice something annoying about her that you didn't notice before. It could be that you just need some closure.

Whatever the reason, you need to do something before your obsession with Julie becomes a problem between you and Abbey.

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Maybe you should go see Julie once. Take her to coffee or something simple. See how you feel about her then. Compare her to the experiences you're having with Abbey and see which one makes you happier. That's the ultimate goal anyway, to find the one that makes you the happiest.

You never know, once you see her again you might forget why you liked her so much in the first place, and lose your attraction for her. You may notice something annoying about her that you didn't notice before. It could be that you just need some closure.

Whatever the reason, you need to do something before your obsession with Julie becomes a problem between you and Abbey.
Thanks Ethan. Your right, I definitely need some closure. The last time I saw Julie (5 months ago) we had a great weekend together and I told her she was the first girl I had ever loved. That's not how relationships normally end.

And yes I agree there is potential for this to mess things up with Abbey. I would actually like to find out Julie has a boyfriend. That would rule it out; perfect!

The situation sucks because I don't want to hurt Julie. I know it will be a complete surprise for her if I broke up now. I hate this feeling of restriction within relationships. Maybe I'm simply not ready for one.


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