alright guys ive been gaming this girl from day 1.. we are in the same class that meets twice a week. i talked to her once when she came into class. she was sweaty and breathing hard i said" u alright" she says"yea i ran here". that weekend i go to my friends house and she is there and says "hey he is in my class" ME. i try to act cool acknowledge her and say " oh yea well i g2g ttyl" playing it cool. after that she sat next to me in class and i started gaming HARD. negs sexual jokes, teasing, push pull, some light arm ouching rubbing arms in class (its hard to escalate in a auditorium fukk of college students).

So i go to my friends party and she is there. SO from there i kepp convo with her very brief and start dancing with other girls Flirting making it very obvious and being the life of the party. the next day she sees me in class she tells me im awsome and asked me how drunk i was cus i seemed pretty drunk. i say. "to be honest i wasnt hammered or even drunk i had like 2-3 drinks but i like to have fun and just dont give a fuck, i can have a blast without being hammered" she remarks by saying im awsome.

so i see her hanging out with my friend dusty, jack, devon, and jors. they are all roomates and AFCS. she is originally friends wit jack and these guys are all roomates. she has not hooked up with them and doesnt plan to. at this point she asked for my number in class i gave it to her. then she proceeds to ad me on facebook i accept. she also invited me to dusty's house for a pregame for the club i told her i cudnt. the next week she invites me to her place to pregame i agian told her i had a huge exam the next day.

so my mates and i buy tix to a dj concert and she finds out im going which happens so that she is going with jack. she wants us to ride together and in the end it was better if we all drove in one car so we did. at the concert we are all having a good time and pretty drunk my two mates are off to get girls so im there in the front with lisa and jack. jack at this point is completley in love with her because of his body language. he tells me to get infront of him "because it will create more space for the crowd" he really didnt want lisa next to me. but lise holds my hand while in the air and touches my abdomen and whispers in my ear but her mouth is next my cheek. i would of k-closed but jake was behing me and he drove. we were 2 hours away. I was not gonna be left there.

during the concert my mate was told by jack that if he though lisa was a cool girl because jack thought so. so on the way to the car i told my mate to call the front seat so i can kino with lisa. he calls the fron seat but jack telle him if lisa can have the front seat. my mate says out loud jack wont let me have it lisa says its ok he can have it. i tactically sit in the middle so she is on one side of me. she puts her legs on top of mine. i wanted to hold hands but i though it would be toooooo strong. i know jack was looking through the rearview mirror the entire time.

she offered for us to sleep over if we couldnt drive back home mind you it we got back at 5 am. then jack goes off to offer his place we decline both and leave. she asks for my mates numbers to hang out. HERE IS WHERE IM CONFUSED

during the car ride back we talk about how i qwouldnt for my gf to have all friend guys because i know what guys are like. she goes on to say but as long as she picks you, u r not cool with that. i go on to say idk i never been in that sitation. then she asks me to massage her head. HERE i am thinking to myself.. K CLOSE KCLOSE... but jack was there and i knew he would of stopped the car.

she told me she grew up a tomboy and has some lesbian tendencies because she says guys treated her bad in the past. she has alot of guy friends cus she knows that having female friends include alot of drama. I SWEAR TO GOD I LIKE THIS GIRL ALOT. but it looks im just one of the other dude friends. or becoming one at least. she has told me im fun and awsome which i found as an IOI. she asked for my number which seemed as an IOI but when she asked for my mate's thats ( even though they barley talked and he didnot covey sexual interest in her) i got confused.

we have a big exam coming up in the next couple of days. we were supposed to study together tonite but she said she might today. we will def study tomorrow. we will study and after we are done ima just grab her arm, not too forcefully bring her to the wall and just tell her straight up... something like this...

"alright i had lizzy, u know when ur around a person and feel comletley comfortable and joyful? (w/e her answer is) well yea thats the way i feel about you, now i dont have those feelings much because they are very rare but god damnit you tell me know how u feel about me because if just like me a friend, then u tell me NOW because i dont want to become the dude that never gets the girl (or become like jack, a guy that will go all the way to make sure no one gets it in if he cant). I like you lisa and if you dont like me like that TELL ME now. we can still be friends and it dont have to be awkward in class. but as long as u tell me now i wont invest anymore time in you, we can be friends and you can help me get other girls"

or do u guys have anyother suggestions. i would of escalated earlier but now that i see her IOIs were just as any other dudes im confused. should i go direct like this? she is going to a dance techno concert with her guys friends but i know what they are all thinking. some of her friends have more social proof than me but i guess i gamed hard and she openley tells me that she doesnt find many guys she meets cute.

guys your comments hints and tips ARE GREATLY appreciated. i would li9ke to hear some responses due to the fact that this will happen HOPEFULLY PRAY TO GOD TOMORROW....

PS also me jack and liasa took a picture at the conert that showed up at the website. she cropped jack off and her profile pic is of me and her.. even though jack was there...is this an IOI? THANKS MATES!!!!!

First off dude admitting to her that you dont allow your girlfriends ot have all guys friends? Um if she cheats on you its not the guys fault man. she made the choice to cheat on you. Second a guy in my book who doesnt allow a girl to have all guy friends or any guys for that matter to be friends has trust issues. You said you knew what guys are like. Well yeah thats true, but if you girl cares about you enough she will stop there advances sort of raping her. Which lets hope to god that doesnt happen


Second FUCK JACK FUCK HIM FUCK HIM FUCK Him...you say jack was stopping you all night the only one who was stopping you from advancing was you man. Man up this is life if jack cant handle losing a girl then tell him to go suck on his moms tit because life isnt fair. and if jack really would of left you at the concernt because you kissed "his girl" then im guessing she would of stayed with you....seems to me rejection is stopping you my friend not jack.. jack is only the scapegoat here.

before i go any further let me reasure you im not trying to be rude i just like giving it to people straight and not beating around the bush

Now every situation is different but ill give you a few things you can do and for god sakes please please please dont use that crap you said you were going to use Once again all that message says to me is fear of rejection which is normal but that message is basically saying bitch do you like me or not let me know because i dont have the balls to make a move..

So what am i telling you to do make a move my man......kiss her kiss her kiss her....shit maybe she slaps you atleast youll know lol.....

one routine ive done which really isnt a routine but anyways..

you ever watch wedding crashers? there on the beach playing that hand slapping game . basically her hands go on top of yours and you try and slap hers......

well i sit next to them and play that game but move alittle closer everytime i try and slap there hands basically im trying to get within kissing distance without there radar popping up saying he is getting to close.

so anyways when you slap you get in a little closer because there focues on dodging your hands and not you getting closer. if she says somehting think your getting to close well dead giveaway she is not interested.

but moving closer im not saying move a foot im talking inches here your body moves inches, but you lean in ever so slightly everytime.

. and your going to have to do this quick and grow balls because this game gets old quick. so no you dont have time to muscle up the courage to kiss her its a now or never scenaro bud

so now your within kissing distanc im talking your leg is touching hers and your leaned in rather close.

usually i move alittle closer, lean in alittle closer while still playing the game and then just look up into there eyes for a second and kiss them which is really a make out at that point in time.....

i probably didnt describe that perfectly because its hard to put into words plus ive done it numerous times so its my own thing that i do that works for me, plus i do this with girls that im not sure how they would respond to my advance so me getting closer and them not saying your getting to close tells me something....


if your not comfortable with it or not sure if you do it then dont


dude just kiss her i guess i should be saying..........find a way to get close to her...tickle her as a joke and use it to get close and kiss her.....have her go to the kitchen to get you a drink and go to the kitchen as well tickle her around her arm she'll turn around and you'll be right there and then lean in and kiss her

now im not talking first grade quick peck on the cheek or quick kiss. im talking about kissing her unless she pulls away


to me in these situations its almost like i can sense the attraction, i can see the look in her eye and i just know through experience what is gonig on between the two of us and the chemistry we are sharing..

once i was walking with this girl and it was night and the stars were out and i stopped to look up at the sky and she stopped and it was cold out so looked like she was shivering so i said something like a little cold for you and she said year it freezing out and at this point in time we were like a foot apart and i just put my arms around her and she held on to stay warm and then we started kissing....

i guess what im trying to say is find yoru oppurtunity and take it.....dont be afriad to get alittle to close and take some chances......

i could of been shot down when i put my arms around her to warm her up, but i took a chance...becaue the batter who swings in misses has a better chance at hitting the ball then the batter who just stands there and watches his change go by my friend

find your oppurtunity to get close and go in for the kiss......maybe you will get rejected but atleast then you'll know.....

hopefully through experience you will know when she is playing games, when she is wanting you and when she doesnt

repond back and let me know how it went


lol just had a thought and had to edit my post


dude dude dude dude dude dude lol...


tell her you want to do the trust test...

look it up for yourself..

but it basically goes have her put her palms on your palms and move your hands up and down a few times and then say on a scale of 1 - 10 how good of a kisser are you?

and whatever she says then you say well lets find out

example

you do trust test and say 1 - 10 how good a kisser are you?

she says 8

you say well lets find out and you go to kiss her




choice is up to you man on how to want to do this...but make a move my friend

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ur right... that shit i was gonna say is completley fucking AFC. and yes.. i should of made my move and said fuck jack... im going for the k close tonight while studying at the lab....ill let u know how it goes.. time to grow some motherfucking balls