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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:10 am 
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MODS: please move this to relationship section -

I know i reek of afc guys, im fully aware...I used to be really good at this, but ive had severe issues in my life lately (death of a close one) and have lost full confidence of myself.

Ok guys here it goes:
The girl
I dated this girl from uni for a few months, HB8, great looks, down to earth and whatnot, i thought we were headed for a great relationship until i took her virginity that is...she goes home for the holidays and returns with i cant be with u anymore (she hasnt been seeing anyone back home, shes kept on lockdown) Truth is i reckon i was too much of a nice guy....and the power shifted over to her.

my unsuccessful efforts
So i tried the no contact rule but over did it i suppose - 8 weeks. I initiate contact and invite her back to mine where we make out and whatnot...so everything goes well...until she shit tests me ...and i failed miserably - she slept with another guy. I was pissed off and she could tell, it was evident...

her response
Anyway the few times i call her its like ' i dont want a relationship...not now its the end of the year and im returning home (another country) so theres no point....but i am returning in september...so id rather you didnt get into relationships but you can sleep around if you want'...

Recently
She comes over a few days ago and i play it pua HARD, passing all the shit tests, showing i dont care and whatnot...we get into conversation and i mention a girl that ive slept with the other night (i did..and i brought it up to shit test her) she immediately gets jealous and wants to leave saying ' we were about to get together again and then you do this' to which i reply 'every time i bring up the relationship you get all quiet...you said yourself u dont mind me sleeping around and here it is, did u think i was gonna wait around?...30 MINS DOWN THE LINE WERE MAKING OUT and havin sex! (women r crazy).

us/now
This girl has a lot of guy friends...is 19 and is all about validation and whatnot...all i ever get from her is...'i want some contact with you...you did take my virginity...i want you in my life...' when i say thats not enough shell say ' theres no point in anything now im returning home' The only time i got anything positive was the moment i slept with someone else. Everytime she comes over we make out then she wont talk to me for a few days.

My question is this: What do i do right now? Shes ignoring me these past couple of days (upset about me sleeping with someone else)

Should i stop all contact and just cut her loose?
How do i get my power back?

I know shes still interested, ive done compliance tests and she accepts...she looks at me for prolonged periods of time, still keeps my picture, still wants to hold my hand....but....


This girl is a mad player, shes used to guys chasing her and kissing her ass, but i want her chasing me...and i see this as a challenge... Remember she is returning to her home country in like a month for the whole summer....So what do i do now? And what do i do then?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:34 am 
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Re - read what you wrote.. wake up son..

move on.. she's not worth it


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:59 am 
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the "saying you fucked someone else" test = bad relationship

whats her personality like. compatible with yours?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:51 pm 
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shes crazy cut her loose


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:25 pm 
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Ouch man. Personally I dont think her "shit test" was a typical shit test, considering she was a virgin before and you two had more of a relationship interaction. I totally understand the urge to get upset, so don't beat yourself up over that.

The second thing to remember is that PUA will only take you so far, and sometimes a person just has desires that extend beyond attraction techniques. Maybe she is just taking a different path in her life. She could already know she wants to go a different direction but likes the comfort of having you in her life on some level. Not saying this is the case, but be aware that this happens to everyone and you will do yourself a favor by accepting this simple fact now (it'l help your interaction with her too).

So what to do? Since shes being distant and you dont know how to proceed, i think you should relay that emotionally u are still connected to her to reassure her you two have that bond. Acknowledge that first over text or whatever you prefer in a non-AFC way. Ex: I want you to know Im thinking about you. Miss your smile!! :)

This will make her feel just safe enough to let herself be open with you without pushing her away. this on its own wont cure the situation but its the best start.

Hopefully this starts a casual dialogue, build some threads about something relevant. Bridge this to getting her over to your place somehow that doesnt imply anything sexual, like a movie you both discussed and want to see.

Be calm, friendly, confident.. basically the guy you were before you got emotionally invested in her. Build that friendship but use kino techniques so you dont get put in the friend zone, such as a light arm around her shoulder AFTER you've built some good rapport again while on the couch.

When the moment is right, start a casual dialogue (i.e. dont talk AT her) about how you two vibe well. Come to the conclusion (almost as if just occured to you from your time together) that you value her friendship, and its better for both of you not to put labels on what you two share.

This will help reserve all the over thinking both of you are doing, and open up a new "safe zone" for the girl to explore herself with you.

The goal is to be that guy she can talk to and desire physically at the same time. You dont want to address hooking up with other people unless she asks you directly what the rules are. If that does happen, just say, "I know we are both individuals with our own lives to live, and i think thats normal. Lets just enjoy the moments we do get to share."

Since youre on a time crunch you can probably fit in a date a week, but it can't be preplanned and pressured. It has to come off slightly spontaneous and within the "safe zone".

Bottom line is she's curious as to whats out there. Shes not attracted to other guys as much as she is drawn to the mystery of what she can possibly have is my guess. Your job is to show her youre the complete package without saying it bluntly. Once she deals with a few chumps who only possess one or two good qualities she will value you so much more. You keep in touch with her during her time away... keep it friendly but keep the chemistry at least a little alive so you dont get put into the friend zone. By the time she returns she will probably have missed you quite a bit, and things will fall into place.

Again, this isnt fool proof but i think its your best shot. Good luck!


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:02 am 
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Drop her, she's a dirty slut, and playing you like crazy, can't believe you don't see it.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:06 am 
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Drop her and run. Please.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:34 pm 
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I appreciate the feedback guys, its crazy, when ur own emotions are involved everything goes out the window....but I agree I should just drop it.
Cypher its as if uve experienced something similar....lol. But I don't see the point in putting all that effort in just for me to get hurt again....I truly know I can do better than her and the best she can get is me....her loss....majorly.20 years down the line I'm always gonna be her first....2 months down the line it'll be summer and shell be just another number.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:42 pm 
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Sounds like she's got partial affection for you, she obviously cares, but not enough to stop the bullshit. So are we just going to go with the logic of, "I'm gonna be the mature one and stop the games" I don't know what to say man, but it just doesn't work that way because we got our self respect too, we're not gonna let some bitch fuck around while we're there for her. Sometimes you have to play the game and use jealousy and all that other shit but then she'll throw it back at you. I swear man, even I don't have a fucking clue. I'm going through the same shit.

Maybe you need a really high dose of something that's high impact. Just get away with her far so you can both develop the trust which will turn into purity (I fuck you only, you fuck me only.)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:05 pm 
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Do like I'm doing with a similar situation.

DROP IT LIKE IT'S HOT.

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:25 pm 
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RUN FORREST RUN!! :D, no worth the mental strain. in a few years you´ll look back on this and see that leaving her was a good thing. Sure you where her first and always will be but hey get a GF that better suits you start over and perhaps if the tension has passed and she to has managed to get over you you two could be friends :)


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Let her go bro, you can do better...


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