'So FINNNNALLLLYYY I had a civilized conversation with "Summer"

Im sitting outside with my friend, he goes to class, Im about to leave, I stand up and turn and surprise Summer is walking out of the doors.

We lock eyes and for some odd reason I gave a head nod, she gave it back, both of us had a look on our face of attempting to gauge the situation so I said hey and this is how the conversation went.

ME- Hey, how are you?

Summer- Good, how have you been?

M- "Im okay is it cool if I walk with you for a minute?"

S - "Sure, I just took a test and I think I locked my keys in my car (digging through purse) YES! MY KEYS! I didnt lock them in my car. So how have you been?"

M - "I broke my collarbone"

S- "Really? How?"

M - Paused "Really long story"

S - "Yeah"

M- "Can we talk for a minute" I stopped us from walking "When I see you I want to talk to you but I feel like everytime Im around you theres this odd awkwardness and I just think your a cool person and I want to get to know you and be cool with you without any awkward moments and without being intrusive as well"

S- "I know, Its not like that though"

M - "Its like when we see each other Im just unsure if it cool to talk to you"

S - "From now on were cool its just last time we talked it was a while ago and I wasnt sure if you remembered me, and I didnt want to be the first to say HI"

M - "Hold on" I turned and took a few steps away then came back "Who are you?"

S - Laughing

M - "Yeah what are you about to do? Wanna go grab lunch?"

S - "I cant I have to go to work soon"

M- "I sent you a facebook msg not to long ago did you get it?"

S- "Well I did" (She was honest but debated about lying)

M - "Yeah I sent you that because I had extra superbowl tickets and I was going to see if you wanted to buy em or go with me and my friends but you never messaged me back"

(Shes from pittsburgh and is a huge steelers fan)

S - "REALLY??? NO WAY???"

M -"Anyways I guess Ill see you around soon and Ill hit you up just dont want to be to intrusive"

(Shes was waiting for me to ask for her number and I didnt)

S- "Okay ill talk to you later"

M- "Bye"



The conversation flowed well, I was calm, cool, collected, and felt really confident but not overconfident. She smiled, made contact, seemed interested and there was no awkwardness, its like we talk everyday. Her body language was completely on me and although I should feel good sadly I do not because I dont feel like anything was accomplished.

THOUGHTS?
NEXT STEP?
Should I reapproach or leave it alone b/c the ball is in her court?
WHY would she say she wasnt sure if I remembered her but she got my FB msg???
Also why didnt she want to say hi first???

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Attraction is not optional - Lucky

how well did you know her you sent her the fb message?

A year and a half ago we had kissed if that gives you a better depiction of how well I use to know her.

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Attraction is not optional - Lucky

Lol bro, you're doing it again, and now you're going too be in square one again, if you keep over-analyzing. Trust me man, I've done what you've done a shitload of times, and it doesn't get you anywhere. You're putting her on a pedestal, and in the end it will get you no where. I mean the conversation looks pretty normal . I'd say build more comfort, kino and talk to her more, then try to hang out with her, but seriously you have too stop over-thinking, and just go with it.

Sorry man its just hard dude this shit happens with no other girl but your right man, advice taken, you have a good point. I need to drop the shit and just see what happens clearly its more me than it is her.

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Attraction is not optional - Lucky

kissed still doesnt give an idea of how close you are to her.

the conversation ended a bit strange, what will you hit her up for?

Just to talk to say hi or whatever and I knew her well but not too well.

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Attraction is not optional - Lucky

my honest opinion- this is horrible... il try to explain why.

ME- Hey, how are you?

Summer- Good, how have you been?

M- "Im okay is it cool if I walk with you for a minute?" this is extremely gay. never ask a women for permission to do ANYTHING-- especially when it involved being romantic with HER.... sooo gay my friend, extremely gay.

S - "Sure, I just took a test and I think I locked my keys in my car (digging through purse) YES! MY KEYS! I didnt lock them in my car. So how have you been?"

M - "I broke my collarbone"

S- "Really? How?"

M - Paused "Really long story"

S - "Yeah"

M- "Can we talk for a minute" again, very gay- dont ask, JUST DO IT- I stopped us from walking "When I see you I want to talk to you but I feel like everytime Im around you theres this odd awkwardness and I just think your a cool person and I want to get to know you and be cool with you without any awkward moments and without being intrusive as well" this comment is extremely gay. it shows that you feel awkward around her, you are basically saying you are a fag around her. women dont like gay men, nor do they like fags. they like st8 men with hard cocks.

S- "I know, Its not like that though"

M - "Its like when we see each other Im just unsure if it cool to talk to you" JESUS HOW GAY CAN YOU GET?????????

S - "From now on were cool its just last time we talked it was a while ago and I wasnt sure if you remembered me, and I didnt want to be the first to say HI"

women will NEVER EVER EVER be the first ones to make a move. NEVER. the male must lead the situation, the interation, the initial contact, the male must lead EVERYTHIGN

M - "Hold on" I turned and took a few steps away then came back "Who are you?" more of this from now on- just have fun with her, tease her, talk about sex, talk about anything EXCEPT daily boring shit. girls just wanna have FUN

S - Laughing

M - "Yeah what are you about to do? Wanna go grab lunch?" probably not a good time to ask her out- you need to put in some ground work before asking a girl out. she needs to be ready and WANTING to go out with you.

S - "I cant I have to go to work soon"

M- "I sent you a facebook msg not to long ago did you get it?" You are killing me with this gay behaviour. NO MORE QUESTIONS

S- "Well I did" (She was honest but debated about lying) of course she got it , what are you trying to do here, make her feel bad about not replying?? best thing would be not to bring it up at all.

M - "Yeah I sent you that because I had extra superbowl tickets and I was going to see if you wanted to buy em or go with me and my friends but you never messaged me back"

(Shes from pittsburgh and is a huge steelers fan) you cannot buy a girls love. trying to impress her with your tix or anythign else is GAY.

S - "REALLY??? NO WAY???"

M -"Anyways I guess Ill see you around soon and Ill hit you up just dont want to be to intrusive" again, you are demonstrating that you feel that she is bothered by your presence, and you are carefully dismissing yourself. this is sooo incredibly gay, almost more gay than a gay porno with 4 cocks in it. you need to understand that once a woman feels that she is in control of how you feel about YOURSELF , then you are FUCKED FUCKED

(Shes was waiting for me to ask for her number and I didnt)

S- "Okay ill talk to you later"

M- "Bye"

Fair enough, I know I dont convey "gay" Behavior but I get the message.

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Attraction is not optional - Lucky

Yeah I'm with Juan on this one. You came across as awkward to me, always second guessing yourself and asking for permission to do things no-one would normally ask for. Try to not be so nervous.

I'm jumping on the bandwagon. You came across as unsure and submissive. You didn't lead, you didn't intrigue, you didn't entertain (except for one little joke). Ask yourself, would that convo sweep her off her feet? Answer: No, it makes her want to run for the hills!

Read up around this forum, you need to grasp the very elementary rules of PU. Here are the ones relevant to your thread:
1) Don't ask, tell.
2) Never apologize, justify, or explain. Speak your mind and stick to it.
3) Portray confidence and show that nothing rattles you. That also means nothing's awkward to you.

Good luck on your journey.