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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:21 pm 
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So i need advice. There is this stripper that i have been seeing for a week and i see something in the both of us (as in a relationship). I know for sure that she likes me because she came over to my house and madeout with me and gave me her real name and number and myspace/facebook yada yada. I didn't f*** close because she didn't want to. She said she doesn't sleep around like that even tho she is a stripper. Well i need advice. I see her about once a week at her work because our schedules conflict. Now she is telling me she doesn't want me to go to her strip club anymore because she feels uncomfortable. That she thinks its unfair that ive already seen her naked. and her just knowing that im there watching her as she rubs her tits all over guys it makes her uneasy. I see the IOI's that she gives me. well hearing stories from my friend that she has made out with someone else while i was seeing her. I kinda lost respect for her. now i honestly just wanna have sex with her and that's it. But i feel i have the one-itis. My buddy told me to just let her go and make her miss me. And that's what im going to be doing now because lately ive been chasing her like crazy. So what should i do? Pursue her thinking there will be a chance for another chance for us in the future, or just give it up?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:04 am 
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Let me preface this by saying that I have never dated a stripper. I've fucked strippers, but never dated them.

I once had a conversation with an ex-stripper about relationships in that industry. Based on that conversation, I would be very apprehensive about dating a stripper because there's something wrong with being in a relationship with someone who tries to sexually excite men for a living, and being ok with it. It is also bad to be in a relationship with someone whose job makes them uncomfortable. In fact, she said that she broke up with several guys because either 1. they were ok with her stripping or 2. they weren't ok with her job.

Its a catch 22, a paradox and a rock and a hard place. Relationships with strippers can't work over the long term and it does seem like a way to set yourself up for failure.

If you're not convinced, then I would suggest a high does of negging, as strippers are constantly complemented.

Strippers are generally appreciated only for their bodies, so you should try to pay as little attention to this as possible. If what you're interested in is a relationship, make sure that you talk more about her mind.

If all you want is to fuck her (probably the better way to be), then you might be out of luck. I have met strippers who occasionally give free "take-out". She may have come over with the intention of fucking and got scared out of it by something. My suggestion in this case is to go back to the strip club even though she says not to, buy several lap dances and drinks, furthering comfort, kino, etc. and try to invite her over again.

If the issue is one-itis, I'm afraid you'll have to try to wrap your head around the impossibility of the situation. I might even suggest going to another strip club where the women have bigger cans! I think you'll find that you'll receive genuine IOIs if you use the game that you learn from this site and the various books/programs on game. You'll defeinitely have to come to terms with the fact that relationships with strippers are generally doomed before they start.

Honestly, you probably want a girl who works a more traditional job. No matter how transient, she is a sex-worker, and isn't suitable. Hopefully this helps a little.

Good luck!


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Let me preface this by saying that I have never dated a stripper. I've fucked strippers, but never dated them.

I once had a conversation with an ex-stripper about relationships in that industry. Based on that conversation, I would be very apprehensive about dating a stripper because there's something wrong with being in a relationship with someone who tries to sexually excite men for a living, and being ok with it. It is also bad to be in a relationship with someone whose job makes them uncomfortable. In fact, she said that she broke up with several guys because either 1. they were ok with her stripping or 2. they weren't ok with her job.

Its a catch 22, a paradox and a rock and a hard place. Relationships with strippers can't work over the long term and it does seem like a way to set yourself up for failure.

If you're not convinced, then I would suggest a high does of negging, as strippers are constantly complemented.

Strippers are generally appreciated only for their bodies, so you should try to pay as little attention to this as possible. If what you're interested in is a relationship, make sure that you talk more about her mind.

If all you want is to fuck her (probably the better way to be), then you might be out of luck. I have met strippers who occasionally give free "take-out". She may have come over with the intention of fucking and got scared out of it by something. My suggestion in this case is to go back to the strip club even though she says not to, buy several lap dances and drinks, furthering comfort, kino, etc. and try to invite her over again.

If the issue is one-itis, I'm afraid you'll have to try to wrap your head around the impossibility of the situation. I might even suggest going to another strip club where the women have bigger cans! I think you'll find that you'll receive genuine IOIs if you use the game that you learn from this site and the various books/programs on game. You'll defeinitely have to come to terms with the fact that relationships with strippers are generally doomed before they start.

Honestly, you probably want a girl who works a more traditional job. No matter how transient, she is a sex-worker, and isn't suitable. Hopefully this helps a little.

Good luck!
Yeah it just turned to 'I just want to fuck her' state. For now im going to play the game and not contact her for 1 week. And then come out of the blue with a text. Any ideas on what kind of text i should send? Im more of a natural gamer so i was thinking " You really need to stop texting me, people will talk" and then i was going to go to her strip club and game on the other strippers. But not buy them drinks. Then i will talk to her later that night. Man this girl is a dimepiece too and its hard finding those girls out here.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:45 pm 
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In my completely outside opinion it still sounds to me as if she wanted to fuck you the first time she came over and got scared off by something. She might have left you her number/myspace because she's a woman, and they do these things after making out with guys to make them feel less slutty sometimes.

Texting her like that might elicit a reaction, but it won't necessarily be the one you want. She might text you back, but its so that she doesn't feel bad for making out with you.

Talking with the other girls is helpful for pre-selection and possibly to elicit some jealousness, but I don't think that either will necessarily help. She obviously liked you if she made out with you. Jealousy can work two ways. If she thinks you're hitting up her friends, then her dirtbag alert might go off in her head.

Strippers like money. I would say do whatever you did to get her over to your place in the first place.

If you text her a message like that, I think its more likely to get a "huh" response than a "hey! lets put on the sisko cd".

If you do text her, you could try the "I wanted to tell you that for some crazy reason you were in my dream last night, and I couldn't believe the shit that was coming out of your mouth!". (I take no credit for that, saw it elsewhere on the board) Whatever you write her should both play to her ego/challenge her and and pique her curiosity if you want her to get back to you.

Last thing I want to say on the subject. I don't know the situation very well obviously, and I apologize if this comes across as harsh, but it does seem very possible that she is no longer cool with the idea of you being a client. It may have nothing to do with her being attracted to you. You may have become the guy that's always at her workplace lurching. Girls are not attracted to lurchers, this might be especially true if you're the guy that's always waiting for her to finish with her lap dances. If that's the case, your only shot is by becoming a client, and even that might not work.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:55 pm 
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wow, you got it right on the money. Thx for the advice. I don't mind the harshness, id rather hear the truth than some soft bullshit. But i figured out a buddy of mine is fucking her. I am NOT down with sloppy seconds haha. My goal now is to fuck her other stripper friends :) Whether she likes it or not, im going to go after her friends. :lol:


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Nothing like finding out the girl you wanna sleep with is banging your friend. I'm sorry to hear it man. I'm sure you'll find plenty of warm-blooded strippers to bang if that's what you're after.

Good luck.


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Nothing like finding out the girl you wanna sleep with is banging your friend. I'm sorry to hear it man. I'm sure you'll find plenty of warm-blooded strippers to bang if that's what you're after.

Good luck.
Thx bro. good thing i didn't too attached right? Im dont with the shole oneitis deal unless its gonna be a relationship ya know.


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i'm currently seeing a stripper, (did not meet in a club) so I can really relate to your position. I can understand why she doesnt want you in her club and also the other things she's told you this far. Also being in a similar position as you I can understand your thoughts on jealousy as well as the need to fight any thoughts referring to one-itis. so heres my advice...

I'm not sure how deep you are into the game, or any other hobbies you might have but my first suggestion of advice is stay on the same path you were on in life before you met this girl. I've been going out 2-4 nights per week before i met her, and i know that i must at least go out 2 nights regardless of the feelings i share with this girl... for two reasons, 1: i dont necessarily agree with her lifestyle and think there might be better matches out there for me, but if i spend too much time with her i'll miss out on those oppurtunities. 2:until an official relationship is started, she needs to be treated like any other girl. (aka: with respect as always, but only recieves so much attention and time out my schedule because i'm in high demand.) If you have a lot of spare time, then you need to adopt this frame and pretend like you dont. maybe pick up some more hobbies so that you REALLY dont have all the time in the world for her.

It's important to never let a woman be the center of your world, no matter how amazing she is. she will respect you MUCH MUCH more, she will feel human (not like a godess, which is especially important as strippers see the worst of men's sexual desires.), and she will also realize that you are the prize... she COULD have any one of these dirtball guys that show up at her club, but what she really wants is a masculine man to treat her like a lady. if you can portray gentlemen like qualities to a stripper, the contrast between you and most the men she deals with will make you look AMAZING. she will be pursuing you.

a couple more mindsets:

dont even think about a relationship until you've AT LEAST slept with her. it's hard to do especially when there's chemistry involved, idk about you but chemistry is harder to deal with for me because i find it so much more rare than a beautiful woman.

i would not get upset if she madeout with someone, or even fucked someone else. you need to be able to allow her all the freedom in the world until you enter a relationship. if you get jealous now, what kind of BF are you going to be? super controlling and make her remove male friends from her life because you cant trust her for whatever reason, or lack of reasons?

I also encourage you to do that same. fuck whoever, makeout with whoever, continue to go out with girls or your guy friends, continue your life as normal! this is a MUST! squeeze her in here and there, and gradually more as the relationship progresses. as if the more time you spend with her, you've seen more and more qualities that qualify herself to you thus you will be willing to share more of your ever so limited amount of time.

remember, strippers work for their money. it's easy to get jealous. if you dont feel like you can handle it now, understand it will only be much much harder if real feelings evolve over time. It's best to be as understanding as possible. maybe encourage a more healthy lifestyle with vague hints, never criticize.

if you can adopt some of the mindsets i've given here, you will be much more attractive to this woman and you will have a lot less stress and be happier yourself. if you need to you can also tell yourself nothing is gonna happen with her, but she might make a chill friend. approaching from that angle might be easier on the mind and surprising in case anything does develop.

goodluck

edit: just realized i brought an old topic back from the dead. aw, fuckit.. maybe it'll help someone. peace


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