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 Post subject: Conflicting stories?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:37 am 
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Hey, you guys, nice to be here and meet most of you.

Anyway, I've been following seduction for awhile now, almost two years, but never really found much use for it as I am pretty damn natural. I can't even remember feeling pressure walking up to any girl and opening or at any point in any relationships.

I do tend to have a nasty habit of having my relationships end bad(ie, this one girl who I flew out to Texas to see so I could break up with her), but other than that, I'm really solid as far as what to say to push what button, when to, and how to say it.

Anyway, I've been dating this girl I met back in January since February over a bet I made with a friend who said I could never get with her(I ended up falling head over heels, hardcore) and everything is going great(and I may be a little late on asking for advice, so bear with me). She's telling me she loves me... basically will do anything I want, though I never make her. Well, eventually, she starts "feeling like she needs to be single"(which is probably the point I should have asked for some more experienced veteran help). Anyway, she ASKS me if it would be alright if she did that and I told her to go do it, but I'm not making any guarantee to my availability(and the sign that she didn't jump back on my dick is probably an obvious sign that she wasn't as in to me as I thought).

So, she goes off to do her own thing and kisses her ex-boyfriend at the movies twice. I don't sweat it, that much. I show that I'm angry and that I disapprove, she begs for my forgiveness, tells me it's me she wants, etc, etc, etc. Well, the day after, we have a date arranged at a friends graduation ceremony so she swings by to pick me up and literally ASKS me if I wanted to date(like asking out status). I calmly told her no and she was quiet(she later denies the existence of any serious tone being placed on the comments and mandates that it was merely a joke). Whatever.

So, we do the whole graduation thing, end up kissing and making up(maybe I let her have it too easy, but she was crying saying she thought she lost me, etc). But we're still not dating.

Eventually, she talks to her dad about the whole thing and her dad is puzzled by us and quizzes her about why she kisses me, etc, if we're not together. Shocked by the realization that we're still together, she ends the physical part of the relationship.

Time passes and she's telling me that she wants me, but she's wants to be single right now and can't explain it(meaning: I don't want to explain it because I'm afraid of seeming like a bitch). She spends the Fourth of July with some guy named David and doesn't leave his place till 1 am, the back of her head is bruised, which in my experience has only happened when I was humping her in her car and her head was rubbing against the door), but whatever, that's just a mind game I won't read into. I tell her that I don't want to be her friends right now on account of everything that's been going on.

She goes to Europe(Holland, to be exact) and spends a couple months there. She messages me from Holland on Facebook and asks why I deleted her from it, etc, and I tell her because we're not friends. She proceeds to slander my opinion on the matter and make sarcastic and telling remarks about how it was a stupid decision. I asked who was it stupid to and why was it stupid, to which she responded, "Well, I guess it's mutual, then."

Anyway, recently she talked to me and told me she didn't wanna see me like that, anymore, just as a friend and she doesn't understand why I don't wanna be her friend. Well, I've done some digging around, and she's telling EVERYONE a different story as to the truth. I've heard that it's school from her best male friend, I've heard it's that she got scared and had alarms ringing in her head from her best female friend(both of which are great friend of mine), and I myself have heard that even though I have all the qualities she looks for, she can see marrying me, she just needs someone she feels she can "look up to."

Now, I don't drive, yet. I've been trying to get over an immense fear of driving. Borderline phobia. I hate going near cars. I also don't go to school. I don't have the money and my family's fortune is in the shitter, too. I'm currently trying to find a way to go through schooling that's cost effective(which she's known). I do work, though she says her job as maid of two or three houses is way more of a job than mine(I work as a camera-man and film events like weddings, sermons, music events, etc).

I am going to find a way through all of that, though, and shortly. And it would be a shame if I couldn't bring her along as I really do love her.

So, so far, we have three stories, that I'm not "serious about life", that she "got scared", and that she's "trying to focus on school."

I would like some advice as to which of these stories it could be, if any of them at all, what she's feeling and what she wants, and what I should do in any given situation, because she says that there's no chance we'll be together in the future(and then immediately afterwards said that she hates saying that because she can't see the future, fate, blah, blah, blah).

Oh, yeah, that David guy is a valid outlier from what I have heard, also. I'm not worried about it too much, though.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:10 pm 
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Hey, sorry to hear you in this situation but to me it sounds like One-Itis. To be frank with you if she wanted to break up with you than let er go and never look back. Go on living your own life and don't do anything out of your way to accommodate her. Go back to whatever you feel you need more if its just a bunch of ONS than go for em if you want a serious relationship than go for it but not with her. She obviously can't be trusted. I dunno about the rest of you but from the start I told my gf I will not stay with her if she cheats on me and I will never go back to her if she breaks up with me, I dont do the whole friends thing cause thats just unfair to me I refuse to be anyones emotional tampon anymore, been there done that it fucking sucks.

Once the trust has been broken like this there is really no way to get it back. The only thing you can do to save yourself a shitton of trouble and emotional misery is to just cut her the hell out of your life and move on. Otherwise you're always going to be her emotional tampon. You can probably get her to fuck you once or twice again if you play your cards right but really do you want to waste your time playing games on somebody that obviously isn't worth your time or do you want to spend your energy on writing a new chapter of your life. Like I said the best way to handle a situation like this is to use it a lesson, now you know what to watch out for so it doesn't happen to you again.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:45 am 
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Hey, sorry to hear you in this situation but to me it sounds like One-Itis. To be frank with you if she wanted to break up with you than let er go and never look back. Go on living your own life and don't do anything out of your way to accommodate her. Go back to whatever you feel you need more if its just a bunch of ONS than go for em if you want a serious relationship than go for it but not with her. She obviously can't be trusted. I dunno about the rest of you but from the start I told my gf I will not stay with her if she cheats on me and I will never go back to her if she breaks up with me, I dont do the whole friends thing cause thats just unfair to me I refuse to be anyones emotional tampon anymore, been there done that it fucking sucks.

Once the trust has been broken like this there is really no way to get it back. The only thing you can do to save yourself a shitton of trouble and emotional misery is to just cut her the hell out of your life and move on. Otherwise you're always going to be her emotional tampon. You can probably get her to fuck you once or twice again if you play your cards right but really do you want to waste your time playing games on somebody that obviously isn't worth your time or do you want to spend your energy on writing a new chapter of your life. Like I said the best way to handle a situation like this is to use it a lesson, now you know what to watch out for so it doesn't happen to you again.
Appreciate it, bro.

As far as it being obvious she can't be trusted... what woman can you trust? At the base of everything, it's just OUR nature as people, in most cases as it could be in this one.

Fact of the matter is, I don't want to cut her out of my life, so I'm not going to do that. I'm not actually losing sleep over the matter and it's not too bad emotionally that I'm ripping my hair out.

I'm not gonna be an emotional tampon, so to speak, but I at least want to prove that I'm better than what she did. Exponentially.

I guess that's the extent of my feelings right now.

Anyway, thanks for the advice. It's not one-itis, I don't think. I can look at other girls and get off or do things with other girls and she's not dominating my thoughts. But then again, when I do sit down and have some time to myself, I can't help but think "she'll be back." And apparently, I'm quite alright with that scenario.

Thanks again, man.


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