Hey all - here's my collection of MLTR tactics that I wanted to pass on. My own approach to MLTRs is different, but certainly borrows from some of these.
In any case, it's a big file, so I've divided it into 3 posts.
Enjoy.
Post 1
Zan's powerful technique (Designed for MLTR's)
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Zan writes:
I don't know if this has been suggested before. I have read most of
TFM and lots of the archive and don't remember seeing anything like
it, so I'm sorry if this is not new.
(Subconscious interjection: Move through life without apology, Zan!)
Wait a minute! I take that apology back.
I haven't heard anyone mention something like this but IME, it is a
very powerful technique. Here is the essence of it: Profess your
undying affection and devotion to the girl - and then NEXT her.
When to use this? When you have seen her several times, you have had
great rapport, but now it feels like she is starting to flake. If your
thing with a girl was hot at one time (she tongued you down, lots of
EV and talking, etc), but now you sense the whole thing is starting to
drift towards LJBF land, and you have nothing else to lose, try this.
It just might help to resurrect a moribund relationship with a girl.
Or if you really like a girl but you have done some stupid AFC moves
(and who among us haven't?) and she is starting to lose interest, try
this.
I have used this before to devastating effect. It sounds very AFC at
first blush, but hear me out. Notice the difference between these two
paragraphs (which I just made up and are cheesy, but it's just to
illustrate what I mean):
AFC: I think about you day and night. You are so beautiful and I adore
you. I can't wait to see you again.
PUA: I think about you day and night. You are so beautiful and I adore
you. But now I must go. You have touched me on a very deep level and
it is more than I can bear. I am helpless before other women and I
will only hurt you and myself. I can't see you anymore.
Say the first phrase to a girl and she thinks "Ha ha, I have a yappy
new lapdog. Buy me dinner!" Zero challenge; she has already won.
Say the second phrase and it throws her into a whirlwind of emotions.
Her whole world becomes the cover of a romance novel. Her nurturing
instinct kicks into high gear (after all, you are a victim of your
desires and she must save you). She knows she is about to lose you.
And she senses that you are about to run to the arms of ten other
women for comfort.
It is very powerful. But the key is that she has to know that you
really mean it. It has to be believable. You are *really* not going to
see her anymore. And you should believe it too. After all, it was
going cold already anyway and she was probably going to LJBF you.
And this is important - say it and then split. Get the hell out of
Dodge. What I have found is that in a lot of cases, she will become
obsessed with you. You will be bombarded with emails and phone calls
from her. It is almost impossible for her to resist this challenge.
She almost certainly will try to coax you back. But only if you do
this move while your rapport is still fairly strong and things are
still going reasonably well between you two when you ditch her.
And when she contacts you, you must remain congruent and never let her
feel she has you. From this point on. And the beauty is that you *can*
go back to seeing her, but now you are the one with value. You are the
prize. And you are the one that appears ready to leave at any moment.
She WILL work to keep you.
And you have established the fact that you see other women and you
can't help it. And she can't complain about this because you told her
the way you are and that she might get hurt. But she still wants you
anyway.
I pulled this on a girl recently. We were making out and I was kissing
her neck and stuff and we were both feeling really good.
Using a poem from the manual (and slightly altering it), I said
something like:
ME: (kissing her neck and talking very slowly) You know what I am, HB?
I am your teardrop... I was conceived in your heart... I was born in
your eyes... I live on your cheeks... and I will die on your lips.
Then while lightly kissing her lips, I said some variation of the
adoration / Nexting phrase I mentioned earlier. And then I got up and
took off.
This girl was almost certainly going to flake out on me, but now she
calls me every night, wants to see me, understands that she is not
exclusive, wants to save me, etc.
In fact, I have used this as a way to establish almost every one of my
MLTRs.
Try it...
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ENTROPY4's Fuck-Buddy Creating Tactic
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Entropy4: She let on that she had just come out of over three years of
relationships and had honestly never actually "dated". This explained
a lot about her behavior during the night,including her prudish behavior.
Me: "You seem like a very 'all or nothing' kind of girl."
HB: "Yeah, I guess that's how I've always been."
Me: "I used to be like that. I dated a girl for three years, but since
we broke up, I've just been living in the grey-area."
HB: "What's that?"
Learn this routine fellas. I've used it 3-4 times now and it's money:
Me: *Raises hand at about neck level* "If you think about
relationships, and you say up here is a long-term relationship, with
full commitment." *Puts other hand about a foot below the top hand*
"...and down here is just a one night stand, absolutely no emotional
involvement at all. Well, this area in between the two..." *pointing
to area between hands* "...is a grey-area full of all sorts of
interactions and relationships that two people can have. They can be
just as fun or as fulfilling as either of the extremes, both people
just have to be honest about their expectations."
HB: (they always say something like this) "I've never thought of it
that way."
Me: "Yeah, and you can even move back and forth in this area as the
relationship evolves."
HB: "I like it."
Me: "I do too. I think it's perfect for people our age, and in our
position."
HB: "I guess I'll just have to be honest with you."
This sets expectations -- she knows you'll care about her even if you
aren't fully committed to her. It will ease her as to what you expect
from her, and it'll even DHV you because it's such a fucking clever
way to look at the whole damn mess
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Heartwork's Anti-Relationship (But still keep the girl) Script
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People that know me know that one of the last things I currently want
in my life is a serious relationships.
Also being a younger guy I've dated a large age group of girls and all
the girls my age are always dying to get in a relationship.
Maybe this just happens to me a lot, but I can think of numerous
occasions when me and a girl will be having a fantastic time, but all
of a sudden, things seem to halt because she wants to know "where this
is going?" or "if we are actually boyfriend and girlfriend"
Truth is, I love girls and don't want to loose one from my life
because of forced relationship non-sense, so I have developed a script
I say EVERY single time to keep the girl around, but stay out of
relationships.
Here it is:
"Listen _(Girls Name)_, I love the time we spend together, we always
have a great time. However you need to know that I am not the kind of
person that jumps into a relationship. I feel like too many people do
that and they end up ruining everything and that is the last thing I
want to happen with us. The main reason I feel this way is because
when I commit to a relationship, I go all in and I don't half ass it.
So until I feel that I can give the full commitment and give us what
our relationship deserves, I just want to continue to have a great
time together. Okay? (Small kiss on the lips, pull back, make eye
contact, and smile)"
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This shit fuckin works, I have given it to tons of my friends and we
all remain happy singles with a huge social circle of girls that want
to fuck us.
What is special about it, it makes it seem like by not being in a
relationship, you are actually making the relationship between the two
of you stronger!
Everyone wins.
Especially you Wink
Good luck!
Love,
Heartwork