Heyy guys, this post is in fact pretty loaded in that i voice several of my concerns regarding a girl i've recently (last nite) become quite intimate with.

Ok so first off, i met her at uni last week, and we chilled and conversed for a while. Then i invited her out last nite as i was going out with some mates to several bars and clubs. She came out and through just enough use of push/pull and C&F, etc. I was able to seduce her to the point where by the end of the night, we were grinding away and hooking up frequently. Btw, she is actually a really good dirty dancer, lol like she should be a stripper or something, cos she gotz teh moves lol. Thought i'd throw that in there

Oh and a quick tip to ppl studying PUA: When i first started studying this, i almost lost my human conversation skills and relied almost exclusively on stories, routines, games, etc. This is BAD! lol, i know there are young PUAs out there who have or are experiencing similar problems. What ppl have to understand is that these techniques (eg: push/pull, C&F, etc.) are to be used in conjunction with a normal conversation. They are meant to add a lil spice to it all, not to dominate the conversation exclusively. I learnt that the hard way.

Anyways, after we left the venue, walking down the busy streets of the city she would be reaching for my hand (obviously wanting to hold hands while we walked) also another good sign, as if i needed anymore convincing that she was into me lol.

ok so we ended the night really well, but i dont know whether she wants to continue a relationship and if so, are we now bf gf status? Making 'it' 'official' is something i'm somewhat lost about.

Btw, i'm sure that many of us after a great nite out with a lovely girl would start getting doubts in our heads RE: whether she really likes us or not. Regardless of how pursuading the evidence is for either side, we cannot help but let doubts slip into our minds. I'm at that stage SPAM, and i'm feeling pretty down from it lol.

Anyways, so, Regarding Making it official - any thoughts/ideas? (also, words of comfort to help relieve some doubts from my mind re: her into me, are also welcome lol )

Regards,
Fr33stylez

P.S - i sound like an AFC at times in this post, please excuse that

Ah, the relationship transition. There are two main concepts that I recommend you familiarize yourself with.

First of, active testing: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread ... =squirrels

This is an amazing post and a real eye opener.

Second, AmanoJack proposed the idea that if you want to move to an exclusive LTR, the steps that inject affection and romance into the relationship have to be taken by the woman.

http://amanojack.your-japan.com/2008/10/

I'm talking about the second post in here, 'Romance vs. Horniness'

The basic idea of both is similar, and it's heavily emphasized by David DeAngelo. You have her attracted? Good. KEEP DOING WHAT WORKS. It's easy to play hard to get and use the vast arsenal of techniques available to the aspiring pickup artist when you have nothing to lose - shit, you'll try just about anything. But as soon as you get the girl (which is what most of PU focuses on), most of us (myself included) are born with the idea that once you have the girl, our strategy changes from 'storm the front' to 'hold the line at all costs'. Once we get there, we change the way we act - in other words, the 'inner wuss' comes out and... well, you've heard the story so many times I won't reiterate it here.

Read both posts above, if you have any questions afterwards, shoot me a PM in case I forget to check this thread again.

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thank you for posting that, it change my view on allot of things.

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I'm going to disagree with Ace's point, that we should make the women be the ones to insinuate a relationship.

The fact of the matter is women may send these signals, but in the end we have to pull the trigger. She's not going to be the one to say.....hey can we be a couple? It is great for her to say these things to us, because much like IOIs we must look for these signals in order to decide whether or not we go for a relationship.

The concept of "active-testing" is actually rather irrelevant for guys who practice game based on their personality (natural game). If you practice natural game your personality is your armory in the war of attraction. Thus, when it comes time to go for a relationship you are being congruent with who you are because the man she became attracted to is the man she will get in a relationship. The only difference between the man she met and the boyfriend shes has is the level of emotional connection and the "care" you show one another.

Fr33 in you specific case, you should spend some more time alone with her before you jump into the relationship. Go out with her to more laid-back settings and find out the OTHER facets of her personality. Once, you get a good feeling for who she is, and you see that she is showing you a level of care beyond "friends" be upfront with her.

Thanks guys, all helpful so far.
How do you recommend i be upfront, like come straight out about it and say, hey do u wana be more than just friends?.. or what..

Thanks again guys, keep it coming

Fr33stylez

Well being a natural is about saying something that reflects you. Say what comes to mind. When you get to the relationship zone, the concepts of "being AFC" really don't apply. Because, showing you care and that you have emotions is endearing to a woman.

Just litterally got into a relationship with this girl I liked for a while now, we started calling it official thursday night.

I turned round and said to her "We've been seeing each other a while now lets make 'us' offical" worked a treat.

And btw I'm in your age group

lol niice man i like it. I'll save that one for after i actually do see her afew more times lol.

Btw does anyone have any tips on how to arrange a 'meet'/date without sounding too much AFC?

"How to make it officail?" I think the best ways or one of the best way to do this... Look and her eye and say "I like you a lot (we have a lot things in common & we pretty hangout everyday) and we should take this relationship to another level." Something like that. It's very clear and simple. This is if you want to be together.