*This post is really long, so try to relax, get a cup of coffe, lean back, take your shoes off and enjoy. (This is a resumed version). I will also divide it into various posts.


Hey there, I've decided to post my women testing method. Almost everyone has had bad experiences. If you are one of these people, this will come in handy to you.

This method is based on my own experiences, and by observing a lot. I always asked myself: "why did she do that?" , "why is she like this?" "Do I have a lazy-shallow-cheater-slut (what ever her problem is) magnet?" until I got to the root, and developed a series of tests for testing women. If you are dating a girl, in a relationship with a girl, seeing a girl, hanging out with a girl, etc, this will be very usefull for you.

*By the way, english Is not my first language, so I apologize for that.

Ok, first of all, I supose you are reading this because you want a healthy, stable and long relationship with a woman worth the time. Maybe you want to marry soon, or maybe you are just looking for a girlfriend to give you affection, or just a NORMAL GIRL PLEASE!

I will give you the necesary tools so that you DONT WASTE YOUR TIME with cheater, arrogant, shallow, liar, lazy, interested in money girls.

If you just want a fuck buddy, then press the "back" button in your browser.

If you have any PUA knowledge, It will be very usefull. If you dont, dont worry, PUA skills are usefull, but not essential.

So, enough talk. Lets start.

Chapter 1: A 180º turn

The girl that we are looking for is THE OPPOSITE of what an average PUA looks for when sarging (easy fclose, and kclose girls). Lets give this girl a name. Lets call her "Angel". Angel is very difficult to sarge, because she won't kiss you no matter what you do, and no matter what your skills are, and if she does, you will take like an hour or even days. Thats why Mystery and other gurus talk about "the prototype of girl" they are looking for in a club/pub,/etc. She must be an "adventurous girl". We will call this other type of girl "Paris". If you are dating one of these, you might want to continue reading.

So, here we arent looking for Paris. Imagine a girl that has no boyfriend, and she refuses to give you a kiss. That means that if she HAD a boyfriend, she wont even think about doing it!

Every single man in the world when meeting a girl for the first time, analyzes in the first two minutes of the conversation weather the girl he is talking to, is a potential:

1. Girl that he could spend the rest of his life with(Angel)

or

1. Girl that he could spend the night with (Paris, PUA default target)

If you are thinking right now: "Man, I want good sex too! and with an HB, not with a nun", you are totally WRONG. Angel is the perfect girl for you. That means that she will listen to you in every way. And that includes sex. You can tell her anything you have in mind and you will be surprised by the fact that you can discuss it in a relaxed and opened way. And believe me, Sex with Angel >sex with Paris. You can have all the sex that you want with every single Paris. But theres nothing compared to Sex+love. And Imagine doing it with the girl of your dreams. I will teach you how. Imagine playing the lottery, after knowing where to buy the winning ticket.

Chapter 2 : Before Engaging (Appearence and behavior)

Ok, so you spotted an HB. Before you even think in talking to her, take in consideration these things:

What is she wearing?

This is very important believe it or not. Clothes say a lot about a person's personality. You dont want a girl that shows her boobs to everyone, and if you are a jelous person, you will have a hard time. A girl that shows her body a lot is saying "hey guys talk to me, I want dick", or worse: "I have low self esteem, and I need guys to tell me Im beautiful every 5 minutes". She is insecure. When a person dresses insecure, also thinks insecure, then acts insecure. We dont want that.

Fake body?

Does she uses colored contact lenses? If this is the case, then we have another self esteem problem. A girl with low self esteem wont help you (other examples: fake boobs, fake hair, etc.--->dick magnet). We need a girl that will be able to teach our children good stuff, not bad stuff. Or would you like that your 14 year old daughter used color contacts, fake boobs, and a tatoo in one of them saying: "bite here"?

External artifacts?

Does she have a tatoo? Is it BIG? or is it small? Any piercings? A girl with these things is more liberal and probably her mother is too. "Like mother like daughter". Also take a look at the proximity the girl has a conversation with a guy. Normaly, an easy to fuck girl will be very close to him.

I assume you want to have a great time in a relationship with Angel, and maybe spend the rest of your life with her. Why not? If you find the one, you shouldnt let her go. Ever. Now a days It's very hard to find girls like her, but its even harder to PAY ATTENTION to them being a PUA. I can assure you that you have met Angel before and you probably didnt even notice.

Angel by the way, wont dress like a whore, ever. She is not trying to impress anyone or hanging a dick magnet from her ass. She will have a conversation with almost anyone, but taking a prudent distance between her and the guy. Thats why she doesent speak out loud. She has common sense and she is very polite. Sounds perfect doesnt it?

Think it this way: You want a girl that you can introduce to your family and friends and they will like her. Have you ever been through the opposite? Think about that for a while.

Meeting her

When you engage a conversation with a girl, notice if she aplies kino to you, and how far is she from you while you two are talking. Its ok to apply kino, but TOO MUCH kino from her, is a bad sign. Being too close is a bad sign too.

Is she drunk? You dont want a drunk girl. Its ok to have a couple of shots, most people do, but we are looking at the future with this girl, so we cant accept any of these behaviours.

Ask her where did she study (what school and University) and what does she do for living. A good school (good values) is key for her formation, as well as her family. Her career or job tells you a lot about her personality and values. You dont want a topless dancer, you want a rresponsible girl with good values.

Divorced Parents? Asking about her family is key. Most people with divorced parents have psycological problems, or they have a hard time socialyzing with other people, etc. Of course there are exceptions. Take this as an important tip.

What kind of questions does she asks you? If she wants to know about what you own: Car, motorcycle, armani clothes, expensive watch, a house at the beach, etc, and you notice a slight change in her interest for you, then, abort mission.

Ask Her to Dance

If you are having a hard time trying to analyze the girl, asking here to dance (in day1 or day2) is an easy way to picture if she is really what you are looking for.

If she starts rubbing your dick with her ass, then you are dancing with Paris.

Angel on the other hand, will never do that. She will take a prudent distance from you and she will have a great time dancing with simple kino.

Paris will let you kclose her, #close her and even fclose her that night in most of the cases.

Angel will let you #close her, but not kclose her. Or maybe she will, but probably not that night. Now here comes the first test:

<Dont try to kclose her, just #close her>

If you have a great time with the girl, why not #close? That means you want to get to know her better some other time. If you dont try to kclose her that night, and your are dealing with a Paris, then she will probably leave you. That means she made you a favor. She is looking for kcloses, and fcloses, and you are looking for something serious. And if she doesent leave you, then she will give you a fake number, or simply wont answer your calls, etc. Forget about those girls and move on.

Now, if she is receptive, she answers your calls and wants to go out with you after that, then she is probably an Angel. But dont be fooled yet...keep reading.

So, lets assume you are heading home after a party/club/dancing/concert/etc with Angel's phone number. Man, you are not lucky. You are Lucky Luke.

Now its time to test her in day2.


I will post another topic with my testing methods for day2 and so on...stay tuned

this great man! post the follow up!

Props Bro. Rep points added.

hey great post!

i have to disagree one some points though:

- not all women who use colored contact lenses do it because of low self esteem. That is just a stylish item for many people, just like a bracelet, or a fun shirt.

- tattoos are more 'out there', yes, but that doesn't mean neccessarily that she has low self esteem. fake boobs are surely a pointer towards insecurity, but honestly, people don't get tattoos because they are insecure about their skin (except maybe for people who cover up scars or smth)!

- the entire notion of Angel being basically a classic lady is very nice, but i don't think you can stereotype the perfect girl to be exactly the way you described her. There are many different types of women, and some fit with you as a guy, some don't.

I for example think my Angel should be a really self-confident girl, who likes to have fun at parties too. She should have good values, be respectful to people, kindhearted, honest, trustworthy and all those good things. Yet she should also be able to hold her own in almost any given social situation. I like independent girls who don't need me to babysit them or validate them. At least not constantly.

You make a point that a perfect girl can't be drunk at a party. WTF?
I don't really care if she is drunk, most young people, men and women drink till they get drunk at parties. That's a fun youth!

I agree on the notion that sex+love is THE greatest thing, and beats any ONS.

All in all, i'd say every guy should know himself and make a realistic model of what kind of woman he'd want to marry, and what signs there are to look out for when meeting women to qualify them.
Generalization won't be much of a help here

cheers,
base_player

Base Player brings up some good points.

SeeknDestroy,,, That was a great post. But in the end we need more. On my end,,, if it's presumed that I just want to just get layed or even if I'm looking long term, I think it's simply impractical to judge women that quickly.

Now don't get the wrong idea. The vast majority of the things you said are not only 100% true, but will also help in the intitial "filtering". So it's a wonderful post. But I think the problem we actaully run into here is that it's not Paris or Angel that we actually run into. It's the 90% of the women who fall in between.

Those are the ones we need to be able to judge. Not only will most of us not be able to find an Angel, but numerical speaking their is not enough to go around. So what do we do with the in-betweens?

I advocate a list of tests to take women through that we are currently dating. I know of no such test. Look,,,, if you buy a house. the guy who you pay to inspect it will have a list of things to check. If you're a smart guy buying a used car , you will write down on a note card things to check during your pre-purchase inspection.

I think this is important stuff. Screw picking up women up,, anyone can do that,,, eventually we end up with them and need to know how to not only manage them but also how to make a good appraisal of their character.

Give me your opinion on this. I think since we're men of integrity, we have high morals and respect basic concepts like privacy. But, turns out our lady spends a lot of time on myspace or facebook. So to test her, is it ethical to create a fetitious person and find out how open she is to new love interests?

That certainly is a test.

Just chatting here, that's all. Thanks again for your well crafted post.

You guys are right. Everyone has his angel, and not all girls fit in one of these two prototypes. I will fix that up.

I dont know If contact lenses in your country are popular or not base player, but In my country they ARE a sign of insecurity. Maybe there we have another problem (country issue).


Base player, you wrote: "but honestly, people don't get tattoos because they are insecure about their skin (except maybe for people who cover up scars or smth)! "

I never said tattoos were sign of insecurity. I said tattoos give you a sign that the girl is more liberal than usual, thats all.

nightrider, I agree with you too. Thanks for the comments.

And actually you dont need any test with a girl that uses facebook a lot. Just see how many friends does she have and ask her if she knows them all. If she doesent know them all, then we have a problem. Then take a look at her pictures, and see if she takes "auto pictures" (pictures of herself: in the bathroom, garden, kitchen, etc, just like fotolog). That is a problem too. She might be insecure and something else we dont know yet. If someone is sure about something, lets say for example his/her beauty, then why take auto-pictures? For everyone to say: oooh you are beautiful. That is being insecure.

But I think the main thing here is that she spends too much time in facebook, living a "virtual" life instead of a real life. Thats not healthy, starting with the assupmtion that you are sitting all day long, wasting your time and being a sedentary person. Maybe meeting people you dont even know (that is weird too, not normal). No life?

You dont need to do things like create an account and spy on her, or test her like that. That is not a moral thing, and second, you dont need to. Just take my advice and observe her a lot. Ask her questions, etc. I hope that makes sense to you. See you nightrider.

i appreciate the effort you put forth, but i really don't think it's helpful to put girls into an A or B category. I think you'll find that all girls are just different mixes of the two columns.

i think one of the biggest problems that guys have with pickup is that they try to simplify tactics by classifying the girl they are talking to. i think the only answer is to calibrate to each girl individually.

people around here have also been bashing the 1-10 rating scale, but i think the 1-10 scale is very useful and easily misunderstood. the 1-10 scale is to help callibration based on perceived value. it doesnt put girls into strict categories. what someone perceives as a 10 may be a 7 to someone else.

the problem with your theory is that the 2 categories you've given are too restricting.